Cassie Doubleday Twins

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PRESS STATEMENT 20

Tell you what MICHAEL WATTER , why don’t you let us pay for you AND Cassie to have a LIE DETECTOR test ?

It will save you money and we would pay for it out of the goodness of our hearts because we respect your honesty so much !

Qld Covert Investigationscould do the test . We hear they are really good and then once you have done the test through them you could look at http://polygraph.com.au/… to get a back up on whether or not the first guys can be believed or not . We are more than happy to accept reports from both of them and pay both of them ! What do you you think ” Oh Innocent One ” ?

In anticipation of your answering yes ( be still my beating heart ) we will give you a list of questions to practice your answers on so you cannot say you were ambushed in any way and at least you can prepare your lies accordingly in the hope of beating the test ! In all fairness to you we will also ask her relevant questions .

Let us start with Cassie’s questions first :–

1. Has MICHAEL WATTER ever raped you ?

2. Has MICHAEL WATTER ever physically abused you ?

3. Did you coach your children in any way to say that MICHAEL WATTER , their father,  had raped them ?

4. Did you coach your children in any way to say that MICHAEL WATTER their father made them play with his penis and masturbate him ?

5. Did you coach your children in any way to say that their father MICHAEL WATTER had played with their vaginas ?

6. Have you lied to any of the psychiatrists and or psychologists ?

7. Have you lied to the police ?

8. Did your husband MICHAEL WATTER break into your premises and ridicule , threaten , abuse and rape you ?

9. Have the police ever threatened you ?

10. Have you ever threatened your husband MICHAEL WATTER and if so what with ?

 

Now MICHAEL WATTER let us suggest a few questions for you –

1. MICHAEL WATTER  have you EVER raped your wife ?

2. MICHAEL WATTER have you EVER physically abused your wife  ?

3. MICHAEL WATTER have you ever raped your twin girls ?

4. MICHAEL WATTER have you ever made your twin daughters play with your penis and masturbate you ?

5. MICHAEL WATTER have you ever played with your daughters vaginas ?

6. MICHAEL WATTER have you ever had a sexually transmitted disease ?

7. MICHAEL WATTER have you passed on this disease to your wife , children or anyone else ?

8. MICHAEL WATTER have you ever broken into your wife’s premises and ridiculed , threatened , abused or raped her ?

9. MICHAEL WATTER have the police ever threatened you ?

10. MICHAEL WATTER has your wife ever threatened you and if so what with ?

11. MICHAEL WATTER have you ever recorded the sexual abuse of your children on your mobile phone ?

12. MICHAEL WATTER have you ever shared these sexual abuse movies with anyone else ( assuming you answered yes to the previous question that is )

13. MICHAEL WATTER have you ever shared the sexual abuse of your children with any of your friends ?

14. MICHAEL WATTER have you ever threatened anyone who has posted on your page and even those who haven’t ?

15. MICHAEL WATTER did you teach/tell your children to say that the sexual abuse they were experiencing was a dream ?

We have numerous other questions for you and Cassie but believe these will do to give all of us a guideline on who is lying and who is telling the truth .

Fair enough ?

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Remember this lady MICHAEL WATTER !!! Freda saw you for EXACTLY what you are ! #FreeMissingTwins #PressStatement18

ARE MOTHERS AND CHILDREN BEING SILENCED IN FAMILY COURT.
By
Professor Freda Briggs

A few extracts from the link.
CEOs and even ministers of child protection services have often expressed the belief that state police and child protection services are not allowed to investigate disclosures of abuse if there is a Family Court case involved unless “it is a matter of life and death”. Even when a South Australian child was the sole carer of a father with 2 convictions for child sex offences, violence and was dying of AIDS, the department said it could not intervene. Children’s Commissioners say that this widespread belief is false.

Unsubstantiated might mean that the abuser threatened the child into silence and s/he was too afraid to reveal all to complete strangers. It might also mean that the accused parent had residence of the child and was the one responsible for taking the child for assessment.

Child sex offenders are masters of manipulation. They not only groom the child, they groom all those responsible for the child’s safety. The labelling of the mother as mad or bad might mean that the abuser groomed and charmed the police, social workers and even the judge.

I know mothers who have paid up to $1M for family lawyers and have received bills for $37,000 for one Family Court ordered report from a NSW psychiatrist. Some have lost their homes and been declared bankrupt in their unsuccessful efforts to protect their children. Would they suffer so much simply to spite their ex?

Read full story 👇🏻

http://familylaw.singlemum.com.au/unsubstantiated-child-abuse-in-court–01072014-freda-briggs.html

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MICHAEL WATTER PAEDOPHILE OF NOTE ! PLEASE TELL US WHY YOU TOUCH YOUR EAR EVERY TIME CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE IS MENTIONED ?#Leak85 #WikiDetectives


MICHAEL WATTER PAEDOPHILE OF NOTE ! PLEASE TELL US WHY YOU TOUCH YOUR EAR EVERY TIME CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE IS MENTIONED ?

WHY did the police not pick up on this fact ? Just in case you forgot please read DR. Pamela Schultz’s report on the police interview !

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A Blessed Christmas to Cassie and the girls !#FreeMissingTwins #PressStatement17

WE take this opportunity to wish Cassie and the twins Isabella and Bronte Watter a Blessed Christmas and wish for them all they wish themselves in the New Year .

We pray the good Lord brings to an end the horror brought upon them whilst  in the custody of their paedophile father !

We pray the good Lord continues to keep the three of them  safe  .

We pray the corruption and cover ups by the police , child protection , politicians and the judiciary are finally exposed !

We pray that justice is seen to be done and that there is a RE INVESTIGATION into this case !

We pray the grandparents get to see their daughter and grandchildren in the New Year !

Cassie , we will continue to be a voice for you and the children for as long as it takes to bring justice and safety to the three of you !

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Your chance to present your story MICHAEL WATTER #FreeMissingTwins #PressStatement18

Have you seen Bronte and Isabella?Non-identical twins, Isabella and Bronte WATTER were seven at the time of their abduction.The girls were last seen when their father, Michael, dropped them at their Townsville school on 4 April 2014. It is believed the children were abducted by their mother, Catherine WATTER (also known as Cassie), before they reached the classroom.It has been three years since their disappearance and the girls are now 10.Michael urges the public to have community awareness and a knowledge of the people around them, and if you see anyone matching Isabella or Bronte’s description to contact #CrimeStoppers on 1800 333 000. Remember, if you call #CrimeStoppers you can remain anonymous and your information is treated confidentially.The Australian Federal Police reminds the public that in some circumstances, parental child abduction is a serious crime. It is important to remember that anyone who assists a parent to abduct a child, including the ongoing concealment of that child, may face a maximum penalty of imprisonment for 7 years.Stay tuned to hear from the remaining families you saw featured as part of IMCD on 25 May.#MissingPersons #IMCD2017 #HelpBringThemHome

Posted by The National Missing Persons Coordination Centre on Sunday, May 28, 2017

 

 

MICHAEL WATTER’s comments

I thought I would share a message received last night from one of Cassie Doubleday’s extended family – Julie Williams (see screenshots).

Julie asks “Why don’t you leave our innocent babies alone?” Then follows it up with an emphatic, “You will not win!”.

It’s obviously a pretty low act to send a message like this, and it clearly demonstrates the type of person/people they are. People whose goal is “winning”, not providing two little girls with a normal, healthy life.

You can imagine my concern at the influence these people are having on my children as they’ve grown up over the the last three years.

I say this because I don’t think Julie had ever seen Bronte and Isabella before they were abducted (I may have met her only once or twice), yet here she refers to my girls as “our babies”.

And if two babies and their mother were missing from your family for over three years – and you claimed to not have heard from them, to not know of their whereabouts, and to not know of their circumstances – would your focus be on hoping someone doesn’t “win”? Or would you be encouraging anyone looking for the girls and Cassie every success in finding them and getting them back to the stable, happy life they once had?

Thank you Julie for giving me hope my daughters are still alive, and more motivation to keep fighting for them.

Michael Watter

In response to the comments italicised above by MICHAEL WATTER we need to point out that the children are in hiding because they were being raped on a regular basis .  After numerous disclosures to many people their nightmare continued ! The mother had no choice but to run with the children . That ( in our esteemed opinion ) is what we call a “pretty low act ” . We thought we would just share this message MICHAEL WATTER so your renditions of self pity , crying and singing may be seen for what they are — lies , deception and fairy tales !

Can you imagine our concern at this fact ? Can you imagine the little girls continued nightmares ?

Can you imagine them in their “no win “situation , pleading for help from the authorities and receiving nothing other than to be placed back in the custody of their paedophile father to continue his heinous acts ?

No we cannot imagine your concern at their not being with you for the last three plus years — neither do we care ! What we can imagine and have seen is the happiness and relief in them as they no longer have to concern themselves with your perverted ways !

Unlike you , our focus remains on giving the twin girls a voice , keeping them happy and preventing them from further rape , whereas  your focus , remains totally , on projecting your lies to the world and having them returned to you to allow you to continue your deceit . In addition you want the mother jailed !

You have known all along they are still alive . We have told you so on many an occasion . 

We are still very interested in your explaining to all of us uninformed what your definition of a “stable , happy life ” for the children is ?  Our understanding of such terminology means that  incest and rape would not be inclusive ?  Nor would it include the sexual and physical abuse of their mother and the masturbation of yourself by your twin daughters ! Having you masturbate in front of the children and passing on sexually transmitted disease to your twin girls would also , surely not be part of the package ?

We are prepared to grant you an open interview to answer all of our questions and for you to present your side of the story ! Let the world decide whether you are guilty or NOT guilty ? What say you MICHAEL WATTER ? 

That way it can never be said you were not given a fair crack of the whip !

The whole world is looking at you which is what we want ! God forbid , that should the mother and children be found , there is no way in hell they will be returned to you and your perverted ways !

 

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Very interesting non partisan comments for MICHAEL WATTER and MALCOLM TURNBULL to read ! #FreeMissingTwins #PressStatement18

PRESS STATEMENT 18

WE recently published the first police and child safety interview of one of the children raped by their father and post here for your consumption , comments passed onto us , by concerned , knowledgeable and professional individuals , which leave NO DOUBT in our minds , that a RE INVESTIGATION is desperately and urgently needed into this case ! Perhaps watch the interview first if you haven’t already done so and then read and absorb the comments . 

https://www.facebook.com/FreeWatterTwins/videos/153213175194857/

Anonymous 1

No less than 12 professionals stated that the the girls were abused and it was ignored by the family law court.

I am beyond angry and disgusted, oh my God, children should only be interviewed with a child psychologist.

These gag orders should be made illegal.

The way the main stream media presented the fathers story is appalling.

I hope the mother and children are safe and never get found.

Perhaps one day this blatant abuse will be exposed and stamped out but they are putting people in jail for speaking out.

How are all these professionals feeling when all the evidence is ignored ? 

Anonymous 2

Horrific set up to fail.

The police interviews here are an absolute disgrace , the milk man would do a better job.

The whole interview was setup to fail from the start and would have been completely overwhelming for any adult survivor of abuse not to mention abused child/ren to be put through this !

I could see Bronte was uncomfortable , her little mind not given enough time to process each short ended question or correct questions , such an overload of short ended questioning .

I am beside myself here .

Seems the questions by the male police officer was pressuring Bronte to answer , was toward satisfying himself !

The officer should have known that paedophiles groom/ threaten children not to tell about their abuse , poor Bronte.

There should not have been a male officer present in the interview.

Bronte had no familiar,trusted advocate/support person present ??

The whole interview sounds rushed, along with short ended leading questioning directed toward being about the father, mother fighting and not liking each other.

Bronte was fidgeting = she is uncomfortable in the interview = her mind protecting itself and burying her abuse deeper.

Anonymous 3

Seven pages of issues with the interview.
No age appropriate interview techniques used.
Closed questions that should be open questions.
Cutting childs answers off.
Re asking same questions to obtain different answers incl CW caseworker question about feeling safe at daddy’s.
Then finished B’s answer off for her.
Then says because u r safe at daddy’s etc.
Stopped disclosures of not feeling safe at daddy’s.
Then asks n makes statement n does not give B time to respond.
Created own answers from B’s statement re pants.
Asking 4 questions at once at 11m mark.
12m B states she’s frightened of him and CPIU closed the question and answered because it upsets mummy etc.
10m B has to continue answering same questions.
15m11s B answers sometimes to daddy taking pants off and then putting them back on and CPIU finishes statement by claiming because sometimes they’re the only pants you have and closed question again with his entirely different answer.
18m35s B “nobody touches my tooshka, only daddy. And he presses it down. And it hurts”.
19m20s CPIU says does daddy only do it when he washes you? B says NO.
19m27s B says he does it all the time.
20m42s B told father it hurts and he father said nothing and kept wiping it.
22m37s B replies no to somebody else making her touch their penis. But answered in a more raised voice denoting not truth. Then says I am a good girl.
24m mark CW asks B if she feels safe at daddy’s. B said No.
Then CPIU says because he upsets ur mummy changing topic altogether and implying B said this because she is upset that her mum and dad fight. When in fact the question was a lot different to where he steered it to.
24m CPIU try coerce B to state good things at dads after telling her she is safe there and minimising all her disclosures or trying to trick her into different answers.
28m50s CPIU says u have right to feel safe around all people. B interjects and says NOT AROUND DADDYS. The stress her statement.
What a clusterf&%# of an interview.
Anonymous 4
I and my wife have followed this case being supporters of the Help Find Isabella and Bronte Watter page from the very beginning . No longer will this happen ! We remain on there however just to keep an eye on this man  . Having been associates/friends of the Watter family since before we even met Cassie via Michael , we were without a doubt GROOMED by the young man from the onset when the mother and her children went into hiding . We believed all that was said by him and whatever he presented to us by way of ” his ” evidence and supported him to the nth degree in all that he did . We shared all he shared on his page . We liked and commented in support of him finding his children . We swore blind he was innocent . All of this changed when we viewed the first interview and those following before it was blocked on you tube ( who by we do not know ) . As a result of those interviews we began to really study the evidence provided by the Free Missing Watter Twins page and cannot fathom why the people responsible for this case have not reopened it when there is blatant wrong doing by all concerned . As a police officer investigating the case  WHY would you not interview everybody concerned with this case . It is also our understanding that even the Poppy and Nana were not interviewed regarding the disclosures made to them ? We do believe that such blatant wrong doing will at some stage be righted and then maybe ( and we stress the word maybe ) the father will end up in jail but knowing the system as we do we believe he will get away with a reprimand as child rape is not an issue here in Townsville and appears to be common . We need a complete change in authority and need to get highly principled police officers in to replace those who are not . We will continue to pray for the mother and her children . 
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Our page was hacked . Thank you Michael Watter and Government Departments ! #Leak84 #WikiDetectives

LEAK 84

We find the fact that our web page was hacked quite damning and a clear indication  there is a great deal to still be uncovered  where MICHAEL WATTER and the relevant authorities are concerned . Why do you think this would have happened Mr. MALCOLM TURNBULL ? Why do you think this would have happened Mr. GEORGE BRANDIS ? 

We also find the fact that You Tube has blocked the viewing of the interviews of the children due to a ” legal complaint ” to be indicative of cover ups and corruption at the highest level ! What do you think Queensland Police Commissioner IAN STEWART ?

There is a ” DEAFENING SILENCE ” at the highest level !

As they say in the classics ” THE TRUTH WILL ALWAYS OUT ” which is why we are here !

We are a voice for the children . We are a voice for the mother . 

No longer will MICHAEL WATTER get away with his lies and deceit !! No longer will he get away with his arrogance ! 

No longer will we allow corruption and cover ups at the highest level to continue .

We are republishing the brief of evidence below  . We have since refined it and tidied it up for presentation to the authorities but this presentation is in original format . The videos may be hidden from You Tube but they are NOT hidden in the presentation . The evidence is clear and concise .

The interesting part of the amended brief is a list of those news agencies and parliamentarians who have expressed concern and interest in what has happened and is happening and who have contacted us . What is of even more interest where members of parliament and senators are concerned , are the names of those who have not contacted us , which we will deal with going forward and make public ! In addition to this we will also make public a list of officials who have gone out of their way to prevent us publishing the facts !

Leading Cyber Investigator Final Facts and Statement

Since #WikiDetectives begun this investigation 6 months ago our research has found that the father ( MICHAEL WATTER ) is guilty of the claims by two girls and their mother .

Please review the #WikiDetectives evidence reports, and if you would like original footage or documents please call 1800-UNSEEN

Please review the footage of the missing twins claims ( you will be unable to view this footage for now but will be able to view in a different format soon )

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=x_JSd_W5q4s

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=W4YEJQNj9lI

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=HmQI0z8QESQ

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=Zvi_TTuuDvA

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=is87WmM9WD0

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=XGp3-vHyzEY

https://www.youtube.com/edit?o=U&video_id=8mHMuvd-ghg

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Ydon9Fdh_-SHRmZzRzRmNseUk/view?usp=drive_web

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Ydon9Fdh_-UTQzS0xYd0RZb2s/view?usp=drive_web

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Ydon9Fdh_-eWlqVjRhRGpSd28/view?usp=drive_web

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Ydon9Fdh_-RTRVT0NaOEEzNTQ/view?usp=drive_web

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Ydon9Fdh_-NWJsUGNKX3dWYjg/view?usp=drive_web

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Ydon9Fdh_-cW1aR1ZEWmlSbkk/view?usp=drive_web

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Ydon9Fdh_-cUF3TFIyUW1mb1U/view?usp=drive_web

http://bit.ly/pamela-report

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4Ydon9Fdh_-LXJyNkhtc1dfdlk/view?usp=drive_web

http://bit.ly/handwritten-report

http://freemissingtwins.com/leak45/

Summary – Corruption and Cover Ups !

1. Police failed to investigate allegations of child sexual abuse and operated at the outset from the premise that the mother had trained the children to make false reports .

2. The children sought help from 12 people — NONE of them were interviewed .

3. The mother only had supervised contact with her children and yet police accused her of “training “ them to make the reports .

4. Detective Sgt David Miles and Officer Michelle Faint bullied the mother , told her that the father had never abused the children and never would ( an assurance that no responsible professional would ever give ) .

5. They acted as quasi-psychologists and threatened to charge the mother (who was director of a paediatric health centre)  with an undisclosed offence if she examined her daughters genitals.

6.  Miles said that police would never investigate any further disclosures of abuse , as a result of which the father would know that that he could do whatever he liked and police would not intervene .

7. Detective Miles ordered the mother to respond to future allegations of abuse by telling the children that it was ‘just a dream ‘.

8. It was later revealed that the idea of the dream came from police , not the child and , furthermore , both of the twins disclosed sexual abuse

9. Prof . Freda Briggs lodged formal complaint with Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission  . The complaint was accepted . Prof . Freda Briggs concerned that a Brisbane Police Inspector , Craig Weatherly was appointed to investigate my complaint against fellow police  . Concern expressed that the inspector was unlikely to have the expertise to judge the developmentally inappropriate language that was used when interviewing children of this age .

10. Cassie Watter contacted Prof . Freda Briggs with the news that one of her children had a sexually transmitted infection which the father had previously passed onto her . She also found that one of the girls had a damaged and bleeding anus which was reported to Brisbane Inspector Weatherly . His response to Briggs was that he was trying to arrange mediation for the mother and Detective Miles while admitting that this was unlikely to be successful .

11. A year later Detective Miles was found to be still responsible for child protection as he was the spokesperson responding to media when the mother and children disappeared .

12. Letter sent to Premier in 2014 by Briggs pointing out fact that the following had been reported to the Crime and misconduct commission –  very serious complaints against Townsville Police Det Sgt David Miles , Michelle Faint and the child safety officer who ignored the children’s disclosures of sexual abuse by their father , bullied them and their mother and left the  5 year old children alone in a room for an hour .. all of this captured on CCTV . NO action was taken .

13. The police ( illegally ) banned the mother from making further reports of abuse ( ignoring Briggs’ reports ) threatened to arrest the mother for examining her daughter’s genitals and ignored a sexually transmitted infection and torn anus , reporting abuse by the father and his influential friends to 12 witnesses who were never interviewed .

14. The relationship between police and the father is such that the father received a copy of Briggs’ complaint ( which was not about him ) , put it on the internet and wrote offensive emails to Briggs .

15. Briggs met the police officer responsible for the inquiry and he said that his report was completed at the end of 2013 . It has disappeared .

16. The Commissioner of CCC said that he would trace it and contact Briggs . That did not happen .

17. The Minister for children refused to see Briggs on the grounds of ‘privacy ‘.

18. Briggs informed by a reliable source that the Minister proclaims that ‘ the father is innocent ‘ and the mother is mentally ill .

19. Briggs said she wished to discuss her complaint , not the case in question . The Minister refused .

20. There were 93 reports written by 13 contact supervisors :-  Rae Greaves , Lynette Bartlett , R.M Bartled , Rhonda Lane , Hollie Malardi , Virginia Hall , Maureen Land , Mathew Morrison ,Wendy Williams , Wendy Willcox , Alex Dronysius , Karin Carmichael ,  Norm Land .

21. The children made frequent disclosures of sexual abuse by their father to thirteen different people :- Their mother , Their maternal grandmother , Family friend Patricia Plasted , Family friend Desiree Taylor , Psychologist Caroline Seri , GP Dr.Rebecca McGoweng ,Occupational therapist Lucy Dall-Albah , Family friend Christine Young and the following independent supervisors  , Lynette Bartlett ,Rhonda Lane , Rae Greaves , Virginia Hallm and  Hollie Mallardi . NO interviews conducted !

22. Disclosures included :-

  1. The father rubbing his penis against the vaginas of the 5 year old twins and making them sore
  2. The father ”playing “with his penis
  3. His penis went stiff when the child had to play with it
  4. The father telling the children that the game was a secret
  5. The father telling the children that police cannot be trusted
  6. The father being angry because the children had reported being abused

22. A serious concern is that neither police nor child safety officers charged with investigating this case appear to have read or taken account of the reports of the thirteen named people . It is especially a concern that they ignored the reports made by professionals such as psychologist Caroline Seri who , a former employee of the Child Safety Department , thought the evidence sufficiently serious to report child sexual abuse to the authorities . She sent a copy of a child’s sexually explicit drawing with the child’s statement that daddy placed his penis between her legs .

23.  Police and safety officers also appear to have ignored the report of psychiatrist Dr. Satish Karunakaran (27.10.2012) who says quite clearly that

a. “ the father had custody of the children for more than 95% of the time and it seems strange to me that the Department is pointing the finger at Catherine ( the mother ) for her children’s abnormal behaviour given that she has had relatively little time with the children “ . The mother’s contact with the children had been supervised by independent supervisors and her behaviour was critiqued and reported .

b. “the notion that Catherine’s obsession with the matter ( i.e. sexual abuse by the father ) and repeated inspections and questioning of the children may have caused her children’s sexualised behaviours is unlikely . Moreover such questioning and inspections are unlikely to result in the observed behaviours “.

The psychiatrist also criticised the Department of Child Safety for failing to provide an assessment of the children by a specialist child psychiatrist .

24. Police with the child safety officer attempted to put themselves in the role of psychologists to justify their support of the father’s innocence and the mother’s guilt and their statements and explanations are garbled and bizarre .They said that the children make disclosures of abuse because their mother provides comfort . There is no evidence of this in the supervisor’s detailed reports on her parental behaviour .The mother and children enjoy a mutually affectionate relationship but, when disclosures were made , the mother distracted them . At the taped meeting with police and the child safety officer , the mother is condemned for distracting them saying that she should have questioned them further ; at the same time , they illogically claimed that her questioning of the children ( for which there is no evidence in the reports made by the contact supervisors ) caused emotional damage which , in turn , resulted in problematic sexual behaviours and repeated disclosures .

25. The children persisted in making disclosures of abuse because the trusted adults who received them were unable to stop the behaviour they complained of .When something is very worrying to young children they will persist in repeating their complaint to try to convince trusted adults that they need help . The fact that no-one stopped the unwanted and worrying behaviour would have led to the children’s persistence in making reports .

26.Why have Child Safety and CPIU officers refused to interview or accept reports from the court approved supervisors ?

27. Why have the supervisor’s reports of disclosures of sexual abuse by the father Michael Watter to the girls been forwarded to the Independent Children’s lawyer and then sent onwards directly to the father ? This then gave the paedophile father Michael Watter the opportunity to persecute the girls for what they had been saying and ALSO allow him to coach them on what to say and what not to say !

28. Has the I.C.L interviewed the supervisors with regard to the girls disclosures ?

29. Has the I.C.L. ( Independent Children’s Lawyer ( so called Independent ) interviewed anyone on behalf of the children she was supposedly representing ?

30. Michael Watter did NOT agree to take the girls to doctors even when advised by the supervisors that they needed to be seen by a doctor . He also would NOT allow the girls any counselling with a Child Psychologist when he had custody of them even though they had been separated from their mother the primary care giver most of their lives .

31. There is further correspondence from Freda Briggs to Craig Weatherly informing him she had been abused by the paedophile father Michael Watter on the telephone when she hadn’t given him the telephone number . Freda asked if the police had given him her number ? Craig Weatherly was also informed that she ( Freda ) had lodged a formal complaint with the police 16 months prior to this to which there had been no response or answer as usual ! Freda informed him that she was told the report on the abuse of the child should have been published that November and as of July the following year nothing had been done !

32. Craig Weatherly was also asked at the same time why a copy of Freda’s complaint to the Crime and Misconduct Commission ( the complaint being about the behaviour of the police ) had been given to the paedophile father Michael Watter by the police ?

33. There were three break ins at Cassie’s work and home and the only items taken were the children’s medical records , legal papers relating to the case and Cassie’s achievement awards — why don’t you ask Craig Weatherly how they are proceeding with their investigations on this matter !

34. Why were there no support people allowed for the children when they were interviewed !

35. Judge John Coker removed the children from Cassie and gave them over to Michael KNOWING that there was a Domestic Violence Order in place to protect the children and Cassie from Michael .

36. The police doing the interview tell the children that they may say what they like in the interview room and they would not be punished for anything they said and the police did not take into account the fact ( or perhaps they did ) that the children might have been punished later after going home to their father .

37. There was no Child Safety person with Isabella when she was interviewed .

38. Supervisors reported that the girls said that their Daddy had said that if they tell the police about their “secret “game that they would be taken away from Mummy and Daddy .

39. The police have used details from the supervisor’s reports to question the girls and yet the supervisors were not interviewed so they could give their side or explain their notes .

40. The children had sexually transmitted vaginal infections and one of them had a bleeding anus ! So where do you think these injuries came from ?

41. Bronte disclosed to LUCY DALL ‘ ALBA the occupational therapist that Michael Watter rubbed her vagina through her pyjamas !

42. Isabella disclosed to Patricia Plaistead and the mother , asking that they ask the father Michael Watter , to PLEASE STOP playing with her private parts when he collects her !

43. Isabella disclosed to Carolyn Seri the psychiatrist by drawing a picture of Isabella and her father with genitals and said he ( Michael Watter ) rubs her down there with his genitals and that it was just pretend !

44. Bronte disclosed to Christine Young that Daddy tickled her on the front of her bottom whilst she was not wearing pants —called him “naughty Daddy “

45. Bronte again disclosed to Christine that Michael tickled them on their vaginas although Michael said he would not touch their private parts anymore .

46. Bronte disclosed to Christine that the father Michael Watter told them ( the twins ) that he would get into big trouble if the girls told anyone all the naughty things he had done . Cassie asked what the naughty things were and was told by Bronte that Michael tickled their Tooshkas on lots of different days in bed or on the couch and the toilet . Isabella said he would take the covers off her to enable him to tickle her vagina .

47. Bronte drew a picture of herself sitting on the toilet with Michael next to her and said Michael tickled her Tooshka whilst on the toilet . Cassie asked her if he was just wiping her bottom to which she responded that sometimes he did but sometimes he did naughty stuff !

48. They called their father a “Baboon tickling tooshka super hero “ because he is a baboon and he tickles their tooshkas on the couch and bed and Isabella said that is what a baboon tickling tooshka super hero does !

49. Bronte was crying and disclosed to the mother her vagina and bottom were sore and when the mother called the grandmother , Heather Doubleday , further disclosed that Isabella refused to play with Michael’s private parts . Bronte locked herself and Isabella in the bedroom to be safe from Michael . She further stated that they were playing the tickling tooshka game and that when they did that the father was no longer angry and laughed and laughed !

50. Isabella stated “Daddy tickled my vagina again today Mum “ Said he had made Bronte go rest in her room and then took her to his room and then tickled her under the arms , on her nipples and then her tummy and vagina . She asked him to stop but he didn’t .He asked her to play with his penis and she said no so he played with it himself . Isabella ended the conversation by saying she was telling the truth and then soiled her swimmers !!

51.Isabella told her mother AGAIN that the father makes her take her pants off so that he can play with her vagina . Said he makes her do it when Bronte is in the other room and she wasn’t to tell Daddy as he would get angry with her .

52. Isabella disclosed that Michael Watter had made her tooshkla sore again and she soiled her swimmers again . In the bathroom she showed her mother where he hurt her and the vagina was red and raw ! When Cassie asked if she could put cream on it she said know as she was scared as Michael would know and would be angry . Bronte lay down as well and pointed to her clitoris and said “this is where he plays with me and it doesn’t hurt see “

53. Bronte disclosed to the mother and Desiree Taylor that daddy had said not to talk to the police because they were not her friends and Isabella said that when Daddy played with her private parts his would stand up ! She said he had a video of it on his phone .

54.Isabella told the mother and Rae Greaves ( supervisor ) that Daddy used to play with hers and Bronte’s vaginas but did not any longer . Rae Greaves asked Isabella again if this was correct and she said YES using sign language .

55. Isabella disclosed to the mother and Virginia Hall (supervisor) that when she played with Daddy’s penis that it stands up and is scary !

56. Isabella stated in front of Rae Greaves ( supervisor )that Daddy still played with her vagina and that if she told he gets very angry with her 

57. Isabella stated to Cassie and Rae Greaves that Daddy will still not tell the truth and that he still plays the rude game and that he told them to say it was Cassie but that was a lie !

58. Bronte told Virginia Hall and Cassie that they had to play with Daddy’s private parts again .

59. Isabella said to Virginia and Cassie that Bronte still goes to Daddy’s room to play with his private parts .

60. Interesting that only ONE supervisor out of all the people that the children disclosed to has ever been interviewed !

61. There was an admission by the Queensland Police Service that previous interviews were not conducted in accordance to the Queensland Police Service requirements , to the extent that two senior officers were required to undergo re-training . The poor original interviews of the children may have led to a miscarriage of justice or at least to circumstances where the courts were not provided with the true facts of this case

62. Note the psychologist’s ( Seri ) recommendation that the children remain with the mother ! THEN ALSO NOTE the fact that the judge totally ignored this recommendation and placed the children with their paedophile father !

63. Letter to Inspector C. Scanlon- NO reply

64. Child disclosure of sexual abuse reported to two doctors ! Neither interviewed ! WHY would that be do you think ?

65. Child Safety gathered NO evidence from the witnesses that the allegations of sexual abuse were made!

66. ELEVEN further notifications of sexual abuse were made against Michael Watter by the children whilst he had full custody  

67. Michael Watter was able to access Legal Aid whilst earning a salary of $80 000 . 00 plus benefits . Is this not fraud ?

68. The mother was unable to access Legal Aid whilst being forced into insolvency trying to protect her children !

69.  Dallas Grant a previous employee of the Child Safety Department was commenting on Michael Watter’s “ Help Find Isabella and Bronte Watter’s page “ shows no bias does it ?

70.  Cassie had visited and been assessed by 2 Psychiatrists and 4 Psychologists with all of them clearing her of any mental disorder !

71. A Sitting State Member ( who wished to remain anonymous ) stated that Michael Watter’s   UNCLE —  Mark McArdle MP Member for Caloundra (LNP) , would not want to be known to be publicly involved in any way with the case as it would tarnish his reputation !

72. One would have to ask if this man’s position in any way enabled Michael Watter on a salary of $80000 plus a year to utilise the taxpayer to fund his lies and deceit ?

73. Michael Watter posted a copy of the court ruling on his page in spite of Section 121 of the Family Law Act and has never been charged !

74.  Queensland Police Commissioner Ian Stewart ‘ s Twitter account has been used to comment and communicate with Michael Watter on this is nothing short of a disgrace – to the extent that Senator David Leyonhjelm picked up on it , criticised the Commissioner and suggested the Commissioner should resign

75. Michael Watter gave his child a sexually transmitted disease !

76. “ Sgt. Miles is a liar or imcompetent or an incompetent liar “ ( Freda Briggs )

77. Police Commissioner Ian Stewart — How can someone who professes to be a professional policeman MAKE A JUDGEMENT on a case where he admits to :-

  • NOT having viewed tapes of a police interview between one of his officers , child safety and the mother ?
  • NOT viewed the interview between the children and the the police ,child safety ?
  • REFUSES to accept the analysis by a qualified individual of the interview , said interview not having been watched by himself ?
  • NOT having read any of the supervisor’s reports of abuse by the father ?
  • NOT having viewed ANY of the other police and child safety interviews of the girls ?
  • What an abject display of ignorance by this so called leader Ian Stewart !
  • The fact that a child , has a sexually transmitted infection and a bleeding anus is of NO concern to Stewart
  • The Minister for Child Safety Hon Shannon Fentiman MP and Michael Hogan the Director General of  Communities ( including Child Safety )  promise to do something and then do nothing to fulfil their promises . Indicative of all that is wrong with the child protection system !

78. http://freemissingtwins.com/we-are-waiting-mr-turnbull-leak73-wikidetectives/

79. Mr. Turnbull, we have in our possession a letter which states that both of the girls spoke “ about gunk coming out of their vaginas  “   and the fact that one had blood coming out of her anus !!!!!

80. Why have the Heilbronns ( a family of known drug dealers ) have so much pull and say with the police and child safety ?

81. Just so there are no misunderstandings — so far in this case we have :-

  • Gross inefficiency and bias of Det. Sgt. David Miles !
  • Gross inefficiency and bias of Officer Michelle Feint !
  • Gross inefficiency and bias of Child Protection Officer Merle McNulty !
  • Gross inefficiency , bias and bullying by Child Safety Officer Gaynor Williams !
  • Complete and utter negligence AND bullying by Queensland Police Commissioner Ian Stewart ! An incompetent officer who had read nothing to do with the case back then , watched none of the interviews , hasn’t queried his officers as to why none of the parties the child sexual abuse was disclosed to had  been interviewed and yet had the cheek to determine the findings and to question the veracity of the grandparents , professionals and the like !
  • Inspector Craig Weatherley gets an honourable mention
  • Obvious negligence by the Minister for Child Safety Hon. Shannon Fentiman MP !
  • Obvious negligence by the North Queensland Director for Communities , Sandra Moore ( took over from Lupi ) !
  • Obvious negligence displayed by the Regional Director of Child Safety Nicola Jeffers !
  • Obvious negligence displayed by the Regional Director Communities , Matthew Lupi !
  • The Crime and Misconduct Commission have done nothing to extol their own virtues have they ? A misnomer if ever there was one !
  • The Commission for Child and and Young People and Guardians – interesting title as we see nothing from them as to what they have done to protect the little girls !
  • Continuous cover ups by all !
  • To say nothing about personal involvement of the uncle  Mark McArdle MP
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Press Statement 16

Sound familiar Michael Watter ?

Child Welfare Procedures – Proposal to the EU

 

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MICHAEL WATTER , we will refrain from commenting on ALL posts from now on as we believe they speak for themselves !

You , the public , need to read BOTH PIECES OF CORRESPONDENCE and make your own minds up as to who is at fault and where the blame lies for the cover ups and inaction regarding this case .  You decide if the police need to be looked at here . You decide if Child Safety has done their job . 

We have the relevant copies of this correspondence and the attachments referred to just in case MICHAEL WATTER thinks they are figments of our imagination !

A PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION is URGENTLY needed Mr. TURNBULL to enable the freedom of these children and to allow them the counselling that  and is so desperately needed !

 

From: Freda Briggs
Sent: Friday, 1 August 2014 8:06 AM
To: ‘Communities, Child Safety and Disability Services’
Cc: Recipient 1 . Recipient 2 .
Subject: re the Watter twins

Dear Minister

I contacted the Premier and yourself about this case some time ago. In fact, a letter from the premier on the 24th April asked me to make an appointment to meet with you when I am next in Brisbane.

I will be there for one day only on September 2nd  but am giving a lecture for the medical profession on October 18th and could come earlier.

I wrote to inform you of my concerns relating to the Watter children from Townsville who are in hiding with their mother. The magistrate has stated that she will be jailed when found and the children will be returned to their father.

Sixteen months ago, I sent a detailed complaint to the Queensland Crimes & Misconduct Commission about the mishandling of this incest case by Townsville Police Detective Sgt David Miles and Michelle Faint.  I was expert adviser to the mother’s lawyers and had access to all DVD interviews.

Townsville Police dismissed reports of incest as a child dreaming about having sex with her father at the age of two. According to them, this would have caused both children to ask at least a dozen people for help when they were aged 4- 7years. Police bullying of the mother on some 46 pages of transcript was so appalling that a discourse analyst  was asked to examine it.  The result of her analysis is being published by two professional journals… one by an international university and the other for the legal profession with the assistance of a magistrate.

The QCMC  engaged Inspector Craig Weatherley (Brisbane)to investigate my complaint. That concerned me because Inspector Weatherley is not an expert in child development or what would have been appropriate language to use for the stage of development of the Watter twins.  He told me that I would receive a response last November. I didn’t. He did concede that the interviewing police had concocted the idea of a 2 year old dreaming about sex and suggested it to one of the children. Police banned the mother from looking at her daughter’s genitals and banned her from reporting further evidence of abuse. When she discovered that one of the girls had a Sexually Transmitted Infection and a torn anus,  I reported this to Craig Weatherley because the mother was banned from reporting it to Townsville Police. His response to me, in writing, was that there should be mediation between the mother and Detective Sgt Miles. That is why she fled with the children.

A few days ago I received an email and an angry phone call from the father, Michael Watter, revealing that he had seen a copy of my complaint to QCMC relating to Townsville Police and  he had been given my private phone number. I wrote to  Inspector Weatherley seeking an explanation for this. He has not responded.

Today I received the email below which suggests corruption at the highest levels. The writer is a Doctor in psychology.

In the meantime Detective Sgt Miles remains responsible for child protection in Townsville and he has appeared on media

I hope that you will support an inquiry into this horrendous case.

Yours sincerely

Dr Freda Briggs AO

Emeritus Professor in Child Development

University of South Australia

Magill Campus

SA 5072

Tel 08 83794926

From: Recipient 1 .
Date: 31 July 2014 3:39:05 pm AEST
To: Recipient 3 . Recipient 4 .

I have approached the Queensland Attorney General requesting a Judicial enquiry into the conduct of the Townsville Police ( especially the Inspector in charge and Sargent Miles as well as the two police officers who interviewed Cassie Watters along with Bronte and Isabella ) , the Director and staff of The  Department of Child Safety in Townsville , along with the Magistrate and staff of the Townsville Family Court

As the attached reports show…. over 100 reports handed into the family court by various individuals , including the girls GP , a child physiologist ,Court appointed Supervisors and others , have not been investigated by either the police or staff at DOCS

There are claims that Michael Watters,the Inspector of Police and the Director of Docs have met weekly for meals and drinks for more than 4 years , and that they were often joined by the magistrate of the Family Court

Also Michael Watters uncle is a senior member of the Q’ld Government and allegations are being made that he instructed Police and Docs to ignore the claims of Cassie Watters re the sexual abuse as she was mentally unstable and was coaching the girls in making these claims

All Cassie’s times with her girls over the past 2 years at least, have been in the presence of Court appointed supervisors ,non of whom has heard Cassie in any way do such a thing

The first person to whom the girls spoke regarding the sexual abuse was their maternal grandmother who saw also the inflamed genitals of the girls when giving them a bath when they were only 5 years of age. She was not allowed to testify in the family court

Others also have witnessed the inflamation over the past 4 years and reported this to authorities,and these reports have been ignored

Some months before the girls disappeared , the girls said that ” daddy now allows Mr Steve to do it to us ” as a thank you for his help

Just before the disappearance the girls complained of the pain of penetration . A week or so before Cassie and the girls left Townsville, Cassie received a call from the girls’ doctor, requesting a fresh stool sample from one of the girls. She asked why , and was told that the stool was required to help determine why she was bleeding from the bowel

As I review all this… I cannot help believing that criminal defamation has been undertaken by officials in Townsville , to achieve the non-belief in anything Cassie Watters has claimed

I also believe that officials in Townsville have colluded to achieve a miscarriage of justice and should face criminal charges

Please read all the reports and do what you can to help achieve justice for Cassie Watters and her two girls

Thank you

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Yes , MICHAEL WATTER .

Just so there are no misunderstandings — so far in this case we have :-

Gross inefficiency and bias of Det. Sgt. David Miles !

Gross inefficiency and bias of Officer Michelle Feint !

Gross inefficiency and bias of Child Protection Officer Merle McNulty !

Gross inefficiency , bias and bullying by Child Safety Officer Gaynor Williams !

Complete and utter negligence AND bullying by Queensland Police Commissioner Ian Stewart ! An incompetent officer who had read nothing to do with the case back then , watched none of the interviews , hasn’t queried his officers as to why none of the parties the child sexual abuse was disclosed to had  been interviewed and yet had the cheek to determine the findings and to question the veracity of the grandparents , professionals and the like !

Inspector Craig Weatherley gets an honourable mention but more about him later .

Obvious negligence by the Minister for Child Safety Hon. Shannon Fentiman MP !

Obvious negligence by the North Queensland Director for Communities , Sandra Moore ( took over from Lupi ) !

Obvious negligence displayed by the Regional Director of Child Safety Nicola Jeffers !

Obvious negligence displayed by the Regional Director Communities , Matthew Lupi !

The Crime and Misconduct Commission have done nothing to extol their own virtues have they ? A misnomer if ever there was one !

The Commission for Child and and Young People and Guardians – interesting title as we see nothing from them as to what they have done to protect the little girls !

Continuous cover ups by all !

 Please MICHAEL WATTER , help us fill in the blanks !!! – your Uncle’s name – oh no , sorry , don’t worry , we have that , — Mark McArdle MP

Friends list – oh sorry again – we have all of those ! Perhaps you can help us with the names of :-

 Your cricketing mates ?

Your rugby mates ?

Your golfing mates ?

Your Rotary mates ?

Those names would be appreciated , just so we can keep those we have missed in previous correspondence , up to date .

Oh and one final SORRY ! Did we mention that one of your so called close mates has been corresponding with us and putting in a good word for you ?We didn’t ? How remiss of us !

 As a round up we wish to reconfirm that there were 93 reports written by 13 contact supervisors :-

  1. Rae Greaves
  2. Matthew Morrison
  3. R.M Bartlett
  4. Rhonda Lane
  5. Hollie Malardi
  6. Virginia Hall
  7. Maureen Land
  8. Mathew Morrison
  9. Wendy Williams
  10. Wendy Willcox
  11. Alex Dronysius
  12. Karin Carmichael
  13. Norm Land

 

Not one of these reports MR. TURNBULL , were seen by your Police Commissioner for Queensland , Ian Stewart ! You may rest assured he will be studying them now as if he is about to write an exam on which his job rests ( which it does ) and should know this case backwards once a decision has been made to PUBLICLY RE INVESTIGATE !!!

 

Frequent disclosures of sexual abuse by the father MICHAEL WATTER were reported to 14 different people i.e.

 Their mother Cassie Watter

Their maternal grandmother Heather Doubleday

Their paternal grandfather Arthur Doubleday

Family friend Patricia Plasted

Family friend Desiree Taylor

Psychologist Caroline Seri

GP Dr.Rebecca McGowen

Occupational therapist Lucy Dall-Alba

Family friend Christine Young

 

( Not one of these reports was read by Ian Stewart but , once again , you may rest assured MR. TURNBULL that he will know the answers backwards to any of the questions put to him now ! )

 

and the following independent supervisors ;

 

Lynette Bartlett

Rhonda Lane

Rae Greaves

Virginia Hall

Hollie Mallardi

 

Do we need to refresh your memory again MR. TURNBULL ?

 

Now MR. MALCOLM TURNBULL , do you, not think , that consistent disclosures of child sexual abuse by the children , to the number of people mentioned above , might perhaps mean that the said disclosures are or were credible ? Do you not also think that the persistent disclosures to numerous people continued because none of the trusted adults by way of the police and child protection did anything to stop the abuse ? Just a thought MR. TURNBULL !

These children disclosed the following ( amongst MANY other disclosures )  :-

The father MICHAEL WATTER rubbing his penis against their vaginas and making them sore !

The father MICHAEL WATTER ” playing “with his penis ! Only because they did not understand the word ‘Masturbation’

The father MICHAEL WATTER’S penis going stiff when the children had to play with it !

The father MICHAEL WATTER telling the children that the game was a secret !

The father MICHAEL WATTER telling the children that police cannot be trusted !

The father MICHAEL WATTER being angry because the children had reported being abused !

The father MICHAEL WATTER playing with their vaginas whilst on the toilet !

The father MICHAEL WATTER using his little girls to masturbate himself !

 MR. TURNBULL , ALL of the above is consistent with child victimization as is evidenced by researched literature readily available , research with multiple victims and offenders , and YET none of the esteemed police and child safety officers took any notice or took into account the reports from the named 13 people !!!

Do you not think MR. TURNBULL that at the very least these named people should have been investigated by the police and Child Safety ?

Do you not think MR. TURNBULL that the Queensland Police Commissioner Ian Stewart should be ordered to RE INVESTIGATE these complaints or are you personally happy with the quality of the case attended to so far ?In fact we suggest you do nothing of the sort ! We do NOT want police investigating police -we want a PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION so there are NO more cover ups !

Do you not think MR. TURNBULL that reports and affidavits by qualified personnel , the likes of , Psychologist Caroline Seri ( a former employee of Child Safety ) , should have more attention paid to them , particularly when a copy of a drawing done by one of the children , of her father MICHAEL WATTER , placing his penis between her legs , is sent to the police ? Seriously , MR. TURNBULL , do you approve of the conduct of your police in this case ? If not then DO SOMETHING ! If you do  then DO NOTHING as is the case at the moment !

 We are as prepared to pay for your telephone call to get the ball rolling as Julian Assange is to pay for your taxi fare to the Ecuadorian Embassy !

 MR. TURNBULL , There are numerous reports by psychiatrists and psychologists that have been totally IGNORED by Child Safety and the Police ! Do you think that this is reasonable considering the fact that this case involves two young girls who have been raped by their father MICHAEL WATTER and given a sexually transmitted infection previously passed onto their mother ? This fact alone should make you sit up in HORROR and want to do something to deal with this injustice ! OR maybe not !

 

Finally , MR. TURNBULL , only YOU can help free the Watter twins and bring them back to safety  !

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LEAK 79

 

Questions and Statements

We have met the Heilbronns on only two occasions. Once at Michael’s birthday party and we hardly had any conversation with them and then again at a football match where we only said, ‘Hello.’ They arrived at our home, unannounced, on the afternoon of 8th October 2011 and immediately began their barrage of abuse towards Cassie, Heather & I, accusing Cassie of verbalizing the girls and Heather & I of being inadequate parents and grandparents. They had also only known Michael for just over two years. How did they come to the conclusion that we were bad parents when they didn’t even know us or any other member of our family? We have had all of our children thank us, at some stage of their adult life, of giving them a good, active, busy and interesting childhood and also directing them wisely so as to keep them from making wrong decisions.

Stephen Heilbronn – chef- caterer

  1. Told us on 8th October 2011 to, ‘Get Cassie & girls back to Michael or I will have the children removed to Michael’s care. I will make a complaint to Child Safety and ensure that Cassie will have the girls removed from her care within a week.’
  2. Told Cassie that she should not have gone to Relationships Australia for counseling but should have consulted him.
  3. Claimed that violence, yelling obscenities and punching holes in walls is normal behavior in most homes.
  4. The Heilbronns also said in their Affidavit that they had not said and done what they did.
  5. Sheree Heilbronn – teacher? We believe has only taught for approximately 2 years during the past 9 years.

 

  1. Michael taped all conversations in our home in an attempt to get us to make controversial statements which he then could use in his affidavit. Attempting to pervert the course of justice?
  2. Cassie, Heather & I, Arthur Doubleday, have never accused Michael of sexually interfering with the girls. The accusations have only ever come from both Isabella & Bronte. It has always been, ‘Daddy did—’ or ‘Daddy said—‘, never ‘Mummy told us to say—
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Why have the police never gotten back to the Grandfather ?

Why would Det Sgt David Miles refuse to take a statement ?

Why would Gaynor Williams from Child Safety do nothing ?

Why would she attempt to conceal her real name ?

Note this little man’s abuse and threats to an elderly couple ! Normally he only abuses little children ! Stepping up a notch was he ?

Why no reply from Commission for Children & Young People & Guardians ?

Note MICHAEL WATTER was able to access Legal Aid in spite of being on a salary of +/- $ 80 000 per annum – we the taxpayer had to foot the bill for this ! Is this not fraud ?

Note the infringements by MICHAEL WATTER and friends relating to instructions from the court and yet nothing done about it ! Nothing suspect about that is there ?

Note the competence of the police in Townsville when the domestic and office premises of the mother were broken into — on all occasions, only documents, relating to the children’s medical records, legal documents, a mobile phone and a couple of laptops were taken —  would be really interesting to read the police procedure and the success of their investigations on these cases don’t you think ?

Note the grandparents do not have a problem with the judiciary — we do  !

Note the mention of bruising around the mother’s throat , arms and legs – perhaps she tried to strangle herself MICHAEL WATTER ?

Note that this brave little man only abuses his own children , an elderly couple AND bashes the dog ! What wonderful attributes this coward has !

Note the efficiency of C.P.I.U. at all times – NOT !

You must be very happy to see how well your government departments are running Mr. Turnbull ?

It is good to see there is not a hint of corruption or inefficiency anywhere within the system ! What do you think Mr. Turnbull ?

A mother and two children in hiding Mr. Turnbull because YOU appear to be more than happy with the system !

 

No reason for a   PUBLIC  RE INVESTIGATION    Mr. Turnbull , is there ?

 

 

The Crime & Misconduct Commission

Ref: M1-13-2646-13/143078

24th April 2014

Att: Mr Bilsborough

 

Dear Sir,

As you are aware, we drove up from Warragul in Victoria, to deliver to yourselves evidence in relation to the allegations made by Bronte & Isabella Watter of their father’s sexual, physical and verbal abuse to them. We were not aware that the C.M.C. does not interview complainants. At the time, I gave a very brief outline of the case to you and was informed that the C.M.C. would contact me, thus expecting to be given the opportunity to present our evidence, in person, to someone. It was unfortunate that this was not the case. (Attached here is the evidence to be investigated.)

We have attempted to contact the police on five different occasions, to report abuse and on each occasion we were told that someone would ‘get back to us’, which never occurred. On 17th Jan 2013, I phoned Det. Snr. Sarg. David Miles, who again refused to take our statement, (The transcript of that conversation is attached).

Our attempts to contact Child Safety were also met with the same response, though on 17th Jan 2013, we had an interview with Ms Gaynor.(transcript attached) You will note that Child Safety refused to accept sexual abuse allegations by referring us to the C.P.I.U. I asked Ms Gaynor her name a few times and on each occasion she said it was Ms Gaynor. We found out later that her name is actually Ms Gaynor Williams.

We visited the Human Rights Commission, in Sydney, on 14th October 2013, who were extremely concerned but the matter was not in their Charter so referred us to the C.M.C. (copy attached)

On 1st October 2012 we complained to the Commission for Children & Young People & Guardians. We did not receive a reply. (Copy attached)

No doubt the C.M.C. is aware that Mrs. Watter has taken the children and disappeared, a crime that carries a prison term, which we accept. We had no idea of her plans to disappear or where she is at present.

On 4th April 2014 at about 6:30pm and after the police had been to our home to inform us of the disappearance of Cassie and the girls, I phoned Mr Watter only to be threatened with violence and jail, if we did not return the girls to his care immediately. I just told him that we didn’t know that they had gone until the police had informed us and also that we had no idea where they could be but he continued his verbal assault so I terminated the call. Mr Watter immediately phoned back to continue his threats of violence and abuse to my wife and I. These threats of abuse and bullying were reported to police. The police officer duly phoned Mr Watter and instructed him to cease the threats immediately.

Mr Michael Watter informed us, two years ago, that his position at Kinnect Health carried a salary of $85 000.00 P/A plus a car yet Mr Watter was able to obtained Legal Aid to subpoena us to Court. This was on two occasions for questioning over the disappearance of the children. In relation to the abduction, the C.P.I.U. or police have not taken statements from us or visited our home.

Mr Watter and his friends have embarked on a vicious campaign to discredit us, Mrs. Watter and her friends.(copies attached) Justice Tree of the Federal Family Court, made it very clear to Mr Watter and us that this case should not be aired in the public arena. Mr Watter, his family and friends appear to have gone beyond the Court restrictions on these matters, especially on social media. We believe this should be addressed and if appropriate Mr. Watter, as well as his family and friends should be charged.

On Sat. May 10th, the day before Mothers Day, we received a phone call from a florist who requested a suitable time for a delivery the next day for a ‘special’ delivery for my wife, Heather. I informed this person that we would be home in the morning but planned to be out for lunch and the rest of the afternoon. The caller seemed to be more interested about when we would be out, rather than home. We became suspicious and subsequently cancelled our arrangements for the next day. No flowers were delivered but, at 11:40am, a metallic grey Nissan X-Trail pulled up opposite our home and parked. When I walked out towards the gate the car sped off then, at 11:50am, Mr Watter came slowly past, whilst looking in. He was driving his red Alfa Romeo. When he noted that we were home he also sped off. Just after 1:00pm, the Nissan returned and pulled up, this time on our side of the road, at the entrance to our driveway and when I again walked out, it sped off. I reported these incidents to C.P.I.U. who simply said that they would talk to Michael.

Mrs. Watter’s residence at 48 Eyre Street North Ward has been subjected to break & enter offences, at least twice. Her business (Child Health & Development Centre) was also subjected to a break & enters offence where a bank safe was removed from its location, taken to another section of the building, and smashed beyond repair. On all occasions, only documents, relating to the children’s medical records, legal documents, a mobile phone and a couple of laptops were taken. No arrests have ever been made in relation to any of these offences.

We wish to make it very clear that we do not have a problem with the judiciary as Justice Tree has gone to extreme lengths to explain everything in minute detail to us and is always extremely polite and kind.

We have known Mr Watter in excess of 16yrs and have witnessed his mental state deteriorate. He is now extremely volatile and cannot control his emotions. We have witnessed bruising around Mrs. Watter’s throat, on her upper arms and legs, on many occasions, during the past few years. Even their dog could not be left at home alone with Mr Watter as he would bash it if it made the slightest sound. The dog was brought around to our place for its safety. Mr Watter has no empathy for anyone or any living thing.(attached is a letter from his maternal grandmother to us dated 20th March 2000, which was written a couple of days before Cassie & Michaels’ Wedding) It is self- explanatory and sadly, his behavior has worsened.

Recently a dragon-fly flew in through the window of Bronte and Isabella’s home. Mr Watter caught it and put it in a class jar, screwed on the lid and then made the girls watch its demise over the next few days and then said, ‘This is what happens to naughty girls!’

Attached, also, is a USB stick with evidence for your information.

Mr Watter has treated all Court Rulings in relation to us with contempt. Mr Watter has held these children in a hostage situation for over two years now, hence our call to the Human Rights Commission to report this and the children’s Human Rights being violated.

We were not aware that Cassie was not allowed to report anything of a sexual abuse nature to police, as they had threatened to charge her if she ever again made a complaint. (Also attached is a copy from Mrs. Watter’s diary entries on the day she told Michael that she was leaving him and some days after, QUITE FRIGHTENING!!)

The last time we saw the girls was on the afternoon 3rd April 2014, both were underweight, weak and with Isabella being very quiet. (She was normally a very chatty little person) Isabella wanted to go to the toilet. Michael took her to a public toilet where he stood just outside the door and refused to allow her grandmother to assist her. Isabella was in the toilet for a time in excess of 15minutes.

We have delivered our diaries, which contain sexual abuse allegations, by their father which the children have made to or in front of us to Child Safety

Since 4th April 2014, when the twins disappeared Mr Watter and his friends (Mr. & Mrs. Stephen & Sheeree Heilbronn) have been stalking us. These events have been reported to C.P.I.U. who said that they ‘Would speak to Michael.’ C.P.I.U. did not take a written statement from us.

To clear this case up, we are prepared to travel to Brisbane to be investigated by the C.M.C. and take signed statements from us.

Yours sincerely

 Arthur & Heather Doubleday

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The first section highlighted in blue on this page we previously posted in Leak 13 .

See below the balance of the conversation .

This case is getting international exposure Mr. Turnbull – what exactly are you doing about it ?

See all the comments Mr. Turnbull !

Why not show the world you have a pair Mr. Turnbull and do something about the corruption in the police and child protection services in Townsville !

We know there are only a select few individuals that need looking at ,  but whilst you are at it , why not enquire about the Queensland Police Commissioner Ian Stewart who appears to have a problem looking at or listening to evidence pertaining to this case and yet has NO problem determining that the mother is guilty and that the children should be handed back to their father to be sexually abused !

Why not do that Mr. Turnbull and prove to us you are a man of action and not someone who supports these cover ups through inaction !

Help us to free the twins Mr. Turnbull !

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/SafeKidsInternational

 

Aussie Protective Mom Cathy Escapes into Hiding with Twin Girls!

Help Support Her and STOP the HUNT:
Call or email Attorney General Jarrod Bleijie
Email: Attorney@ministerial.qld.gov.au
Call: 324 79068

You can write your own email or copy and paste:

Dear Attorney General Bleijie,

Safe Kids International has made me aware of a serious injustice being committed within your jurisdiction. A mother who has been trying to protect her children from sexual abuse was not able to due to evidence being dismissed and concealed by the police, judges and safety officers.

Dismissal of evidence of sexual abuse and placement with paternal perpetrators is an international human rights crisis. See: www.RightsForWomenAndChildren.org.

The Royal Commission has even been petitioned by Bravehearts (http://www.bravehearts.org.au/

) and others to include Family Courts in their investigation of the cover up of sexual abuse.

Please do not be a party to this cover up and persecution of this wonderful protective mother and children who have thousands of supporters from all over the world. We are asking you to do the right thing and stop the hunt and dismiss the charges against her. You can see some of the mountain of evidence of abuse on Safe Kids International FB page: www.facebook.com/SafeKidsInternational. But of course you can get ALL the evidence on your own and see for yourself.

Please help save this mother and her precious children.

Thank you

The same pattern is occurring in PM Catherine’s case as has occurred in hundreds of thousands of other cases worldwide: mothers try and protect their children from abuse and custody is switched to the abusive father through false findings of alienating or coaching by mom. The mother is placed on supervised visitation to silence them about the abuse and the abuse continues.

The mainstream media has taken the father’s side in this case, as is so often the case when mothers give up on the system and go into hiding. So we present here, in social media, the mother’s and children’s side.
[Here is the one-sided “investigative” report: http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article/8837023/three-weeks-and-no-sign-of-missing-twin-girls

]

EVIDENCE:

A report by a renowned expert in sexual abuse describes the abuse of KIDS in DANGER: Twins Bronte and Isabella, from the age of 2 years to the time their Protective Mom Catherine successfully escaped family court injustice and went into hiding this April. The girls are now nearly 8 years old.

For a period of eighteen months, the girls had been disclosing child sexual abuse to at least thirteen different people, pleading, “Please ask daddy to stop hurting my vagina/tushka”. At times, they described the appearance of their father’s sexually aroused penis and they also exhibited inappropriate sexual behaviours. A child psychologist confirmed the belief that the children had been abused but police ignored her AND the twelve other witnesses.

The child safety officer seems to have missed these interviews with the children. It would appear that she’d already decided that the mother, the director of a paediatric health centre, was “training” the children to make false reports against the father for vindictiveness and, as a result of the officers’ opinion, the children were removed by the Family Court and placed in the care of the accused father. The children then had restricted, supervised contact with their mother.

Complaints about the father’s behaviour continued subsequent to the interviews. Amazingly, police and safety officer concluded that one of the twins DREAMT having sex with her father when she was only two years old and although she cannot remember the dream, this is the explanation they give for all the complaints made over an 18 month period by both girls when they were aged 4-6. It is significant that the reference to a dream was actually introduced by police.

Police instructed the mother to dismiss future disclosures of sexual abuse by the children, banned the mother from reading a child protection story book that is published by a government funded organisation and recommended by the child safety organisation, told the mother that future allegations of sexual abuse will not be investigated, threatened the mother that if she examines their genitals when they complain of soreness, she will be arrested.

The list of persons receiving the reports of abuse includes a psychologist, a psychiatrist, an occupational therapist and five different contact supervisors none of whom appear to have been interviewed. The sexually abusive behaviour was described as: the father rubbing his penis against the vaginas of the 5-year old twins and making them sore; the father “playing” with his penis; his penis went stiff when the child had to play with it; the father telling the children that the game was a secret; the father telling the children that police cannot be trusted; the father being angry because the girls had reported being abused. The children were examined by a GP who made notifications of abuse to the Department. Vaginal cystitis, sores and prolonged vaginal pain were reported.

Police ignored the reports made by professionals such as the psychiatrist and psychologist, a former employee of the Child Safety Department who reported child sex abuse to the authorities and sent a copy of a child’s sexually explicit drawing with the child’s statement that daddy placed his penis between her legs. The psychiatrist pointed out that “the father had custody of the children for more than 95% of the time and it seems strange that the Department is pointing the finger at the mother for her children’s abnormal behaviour given that she has had relatively little time with them.”

The explanations police gave for the disclosures of abuse were contradictory and so unprofessional that Australia’s leading experts on child sexual crimes and discourse analysis were invited to analyze the documentation. As a result of their findings, a formal complaint was lodged with Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission, which appointed a police inspector to investigate the handling of this case by police.

Local police banned PM Catherine from making further reports, so in April, after years of trying to protect her precious daughters, she fled into hiding. When she is located, she will be imprisoned and the children will be returned to the father. Unless Attorney General Jarrod Bleijie stops this injustice. Please email or call him and ask him to help protect them.

*We at Safe Kids International support PM Catherine in her act of civil disobedience.

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9 August at 11:03 · Like · 2

Julie Olson Protect those kids! ! The courts won’t!

9 August at 11:04 · Like · 7

Tina Parsons Neither will the Attorney General or any other politician. Who do you think appoints these judges (against our Constitution)?? They are all in it up to their necks. We have much evidence of all of this now (check out the many posts on my timeline).

No, We the people MUST help each other!! Start an underground movement & take it OFF of facebook!!!

9 August at 11:37 · Like · 15

Linda Bennett Victims are NOT protected in Australia

9 August at 12:10 · Like · 6

Donna Parker I can’t do this right now (on a mobile device) but want to be able to find it when I get to a computer. Could you please e-mail this post to me at Luke.Kirschmann.Foundation@gmail.com?

9 August at 12:18 · Like

June Wiest I too am mobile
Please pm me the post. My message box is open. Thank you!

9 August at 12:55 · Like

Tina Parsons Donna & Julie, FB has a new feature (in your left hand bar) to allow you to save links etc for later browsing

9 August at 13:30 · Like · 1

Donna Serna This whole ‘parental alienation’ accusation has become a pedophile’s absolute dream come true. I was also accused and found “guilty of severe alienation” by two whores of the court, paid for by… guess who? He often likes to brag that he “paid $60,000 for those reports!” I firmly believe it’s the only true statement he’s ever made. I like to call and write on behalf of other moms going through this. I pray she is not caught.

9 August at 14:48 · Like · 10

Lena De Beer Trichardt Yes they are where they are supposed to be!

9 August at 15:22 · Like · 1

Rhonda CaseKristi Kernal

9 August at 16:03 · Like

Rita Philomena I will be sharing and sending my request to the AG

9 August at 20:02 · Like

Rita Philomena We are praying that she isn’t found.

9 August at 20:02 · Like · 1

Suzi Martin email sent

9 August at 20:39 · Like

Gracee Moon I hope she is never caught. Family Courts are a joke they say they are for the best of the child, but that is a crock. Good Luck to the mother Catherine and her girls.

9 August at 20:43 · Like · 7

Raven B Echo Omg I cannot understand this system we have! It’s disgusting! I pray they stay hidden and I pray that one day the underground will be more available to those in need. (I wld love to know how to disappear)

9 August at 21:47 · Like · 1

Stop Emotional Child Abuse It is about time that judges start handing down stiff penalties for access and visitation denial. If a father doesn’t pay child support then he can lose his drivers license, business license, and go to jail. But if visitation is denied virtually nothing happens. Emotional support is crucial to the health and well-being of children !! Family Courts are injuring “fit” parents by allowing false allegations of domestic violence strip a father’s right to access his child. There are several well documented “Family Court CAUSED” Post Traumatic Stress Disorder cases logged with the Florida Department of Health. To make matters worse the children are hurting because of the lies. False allegations of domestic violence IS domestic violence. AND Parental Alienation is CHILD ABUSE!!! These lies are formulated by attorneys, recommendations to the clients to file FALSE POLICE REPORTS (Information Only Reports). Parents are unjustly denied access because of the PTSD injury the “Family Court CAUSED”; believing accusations without REAL evidence, not an “Information Only Police Report”. Ironic? YES and ILLEGAL!! (USC Title 18 Section 242) Furthermore it’s DISCRIMINATION by a Family Court Judge who has “Absolute Judicial Discretion” in an EMPTY COURTROOM!!! So lets say you walk into family court to do the right thing, as a petitioner, asking for contact, responsibility, “to pay” child support; then the Judge hits you with her mallet and cripples dad. Then, dad enters limping back into Family Court, the Judge says “you cannot see your child because you’re crippled”. Then the Judge removes herself from the case when dad (petitioner) tells the Florida Bar AND the Judge about the ILLEGAL POLICE REPORT AND PERJURY BY MOM. The requirement and Standard for Preponderance of Evidence to separate a child from a parent IGNORED!!! 08-29595 American Fathers Liberation ArmyChildren’s Rights

10 August at 00:11 · Like · 2

Sherry Jeu email sent. praying

10 August at 03:21 · Like

Genevieve Peace Friedman praying she isn’t found…. though, as a former ‘hider’…. I know its a tough life with children to stay in hiding for a long time…… someone grow some gonads and DO THE RIGHT THING…… this is NOT made up.

10 August at 11:56 · Like · 4

Warren Rusty Wilson Instead. Just go hunt down the pedophile “father” and beat him sense -less and show him the kind of thing that will happen to him if he continues with the HUNT… I am willing to do the deed. Show me where he is !… ,I am S I C K of these pedophiles ! ….SICK to my stomach…..

10 August at 23:30 · Like · 4

TarneaSwanwick I pray that these girls never have to see their ‘father’ again! Good on the mum for taking that leap to protect her children when the justice system wouldn’t

11 August at 07:48 · Like · 7

Emma Pogonoski I applaud this courageous mother. May I never have to fight like she is, and so many others in her position.
Read this Dimitra Pantazis and tell me if you think authorities will do anything to protect that baby girl whose vile parents were on 60 minutes last night. Children are court ordered to live with their abusers more often than they aren’t in the family courts. It’s a disgrace and the whole family court needs investigating and overhauling.

11 August at 12:40 · Like

Anne Cole How come this information has not been made public

11 August at 14:51 · Like · 6

Trace-Anne Mallardi At last ………………..

11 August at 17:22 · Like · 3

Anne-Marie Murray Backwards.Grrrrrrrr

11 August at 17:23 · Like · 1

Deborah Camacho Oh my god!!!!

11 August at 19:01 · Like · 1

Karen Rowe OMG this is awful. Praying the mother and children won’t be found

12 August at 09:02 · Like

MuzLaufer The system ….

12 August at 11:06 · Like

Tracy Kepper I was told their mother asked the family courts for their father to have full custody. Also these are pretty serious allegations against any parent.

12 August at 12:21 · Like · 7

Kylie Phillips How did the father end up with full custody?

12 August at 17:18 · Like · 2

Corinne BaileyRachael Armstrong

12 August at 18:07 · Like · 1

Emma Mcnaughton Wow!!!! Knew there wS more to this story

12 August at 18:53 · Like · 4

Martina Halamkova God protect you and your children through all this.Love m

12 August at 19:39 · Like

Jialin TanSim ChesherRenee Perkins what is going on here?!

12 August at 21:17 · Like

Renee PerkinsWtf? Why would she sign over full custody? These poor girls.

12 August at 21:24 · Like · 1

Jialin Tan I don’t know. I don’t know what is true but for the children’s sake I hope it gets sorted. Abusers are masters of deception. At the same time these are terrible and unsubstantiated allegations. This situation just stinksRenee.

12 August at 21:29 · Like · 3

Renee Perkins Either side of this case is so detrimental to the kids. What sort of a life will they lead when both sides are being so vile about the other. They brought these girls into the world together. So much for what’s in the child’s best interests. I agree Jialin. It stinks.

12 August at 21:33 · Like

Trish Hutton It’s good to read two sides to this story. One must also be mindful of the fact that people who do have a mental illness and become unwell very often are discriminated against. Even when they are well again. She could be telling the truth, she could be telling lies. I reakon a full investigation needs to be held.

12 August at 23:09 · Like · 2

Tracey Keeley You go Catherine! Fierce love & protection for your children is the utmost maternal instinct. Safe travels for you and your girls xx

12 August at 23:49 · Like · 3

Margaret Howden Surely if this was the case they would of been examined by a doctor at some point and you would think that if there was evidence of sexual abuse the doctors would of reported it. I don’t know all the details but sound odd to me.

13 August at 06:30 · Like · 9

Donna Ryan Glad this has finally come to light.

13 August at 08:21 · Like · 3

Sonja HughesAmie Mummy Hughes…..sounds like what’s happened to you….your son comes home with burns on his arms from his fathers house and now both your kids are in his care….despite all the evidence and the witnesses!!!!

13 August at 08:44 · Like

Sonja Hughes The law in Australia is ” even though the mother didn’t abuse her children she failed to protect them from abuse, even if she didn’t know it was happening”…,yes it’s an actual defence!!!! It’s a bs one but it’s one that’s widely used!!!

13 August at 08:46 · Like · 1

Laura Andrew What the …….. How about the parents think about the kids for once and get this sorted for the girls sake couldn’t imagine what they are thinking

13 August at 08:47 · Like

Sonja Hughes Renee Perkins….you don’t have a choice….either you sign them over or they get taken from you in the most horrific way!! This has just happened to MY daughter and her children!!

13 August at 08:49 · Like

Kylie Wilson-Phalmer Because Anne Cole the police, Judges, child welfare and media have been on the fathers side!

13 August at 11:42 · Like · 1

Amy Johnston They won’t intervene, I know this from first hand experience. Due to it being a Family Court matter the Attorney General will send a generic response and state it’s out of their control.

13 August at 12:43 · Like

Jess Whittington Disgusting

13 August at 14:58 · Like

Natalie Woods The whole justice system sucks it’s a joke my ex has custody of my son even though he physically abused him and I can’t so squat

13 August at 15:58 · Like · 2

Amie Mummy Hughes I know how you feel, as I toam currently doing this only I wasn’t successful

13 August at 18:36 · Like

Amie Mummy Hughes I hope you can keep those girls safe

13 August at 18:37 · Like

James DanielsTrent Johnston, look at the allegations. I

13 August at 21:19 · Like · 1

Mary Beth SussJodi Dody Jolie remember we discussed this case

21 hours ago · Like · 1

Jodi Dody Jolie Yes I do Mary Suss, all good

21 hours ago · Like · 1

Mary Beth SussAustralian Missing Persons Register, Australian Missing and Endangered Children

21 hours ago · Like · 1

Jodi Dody Jolie If this is in fact true, then keep running mum. Far from that monster.

21 hours ago · Like

Stevi Ann KinmanDesleyWyburg

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Kylie Joan the people that are suppose to help us can be totally the people we run from ! Why is there one rule for one and then they change the rules to suit themselves. Bring in the investigations on all the police officers involved ! ! There will be mistakes made and this women should keep her kids !

18 hours ago · Like · 2

Charlie Clark So sad… Both sides of the story differ greatly. I hope Isabelle & Bronte are safe where ever they are xoxo

18 hours ago · Like · 1

Bren MG I hope they are never found until the dirty dog has been locked up and the police should be looked into as well as the child safety .To often we hear that Child safety has let down kids and not protect them from harm . I hope he his followers that are being so easly brainwashed from his lies is reading all of this

18 hours ago · Like · 1

Fiona WilliamsonLaura / Tanya – can you tag Storm for this?

18 hours ago · Like · 2

Laura BullimoreStorm Cody!!!

18 hours ago · Like · 1

Storm Cody Could not of said it better liam! People who don’t know the fact really should not comment nor become involved.

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Jude Townson Why has the press allowed us to believe that the father is the victim in this.. I am disgusted.. Shame on u bulletin and the FB page asking us to dob the mum in.. If a mother can’t protect her kids …. Who will? Certainly not the child protection agency who are suppose to be keeping our kids safe.. Hope all three are safe and happy.

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Kimberley Henderson I help her hide and I will fright to catch their girls from harm catch hiding mum we are all backing you

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Miette Ophelie Keep running!! The father sounds like a disgusting pig!!!!!

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Jodi SteffWas the court case and all the investigations done in T’ville?? The way its been handled and what happens is true and this is not an isolated case. Child protection laws need an overhaul and ppl dealing with it need to be re trained because at the end of the day you prove over and over again that you have no idea and dont care and in 15+ yrs to come when these kids start taking their fathers to court and want everyone who dealt with it held acountable for not protecting and ruining their lives and the fact the missed out on their mothers you will all loose you jobs.. i see this as the same as the stolen generation, no one wakes up untill the damage is done. KEEP HIDING MUM, THE GIRLS WILL BE OLD ENOUGH ONE DAY TO TELL THE TRUTH.

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Joel Thomas When found, this woman will be going to gaol and will have no contact with the children. Regardless of the veracity of any of the above.

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Press Statement 13
This will apply to Cassie Watter if she is found .
She should demand the right of trial by Jury !!
                                              A PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION IS NEEDED
Letter To :-
Prof. Sir Nigel Rodley ,
President,
ICJ- International Commission of Jurists ,
Rue Des Bains 33 ,
P.O.Box 91 ,
1211 Geneva 8 ,
Switzerland .
Dear Prof. Sir Nigel Rodley ,
Re:- Australian Judges’Abuses .
1. Disregarding Legal Rights :
Throughout Australia it has become the practice in all courts . from Local Courts to the High of Australia itself , to disregard the most important Right that defines being free and it is immortalized in the Magna Carta of 1215 that says “ Nullius liber homo capitur vel imprisonetur , aut , disseisiatur , aut utlagetur , aut exaletur , aut aliquo modo destruatur . nec super eum ibimus , nec super cum mittemus , nisi per legale judicium parium suorum vel per legem terrae .  “ – translating to “” No free man shall be taken indeed imprisoned , or dispossessed , or outlawed , or exiled , or in any manner destroyed , nor pass over him . nor send over him , except by means of the lawful judgement of his own equals which is the law of the land ,  “ – and has established Trial by Jury as an inalienable Right .  “ granted for ever  “ ,  and confirmed many times over the centuries in Acts of Parliament following that Common Law Writ sealed by King John at Runnymede on the 15th June , 800 years ago .
The Commonwealth of Australia is a Common Law Jurisdiction and that all the Courts of Australia are Common Law Courts where Free Men can exercise their inalienable Right to Trial by Jury .
So essential to the preservation of Truth , Justice , Freedom and Democracy is the Right to Trial by Jury , that any denial of this Right constitutes Treason against the People of Australia because it is an act intent on overthrowing the Sovereignty of the People to be “ the ultimate authority to make and impose laws  “ . No Federal or State Parliament can abolish or diminish this Right protecting Life , Liberty and Property because it is the duty and responsibility of Jurors to judge the facts and law presented to them , so that they can administer Justice to all parties in any action . In any action , unless a Court obtains the clear and unequivocal consent of all parties to be without a Jury , that Court has no jurisdiction to proceed summarily and any such awards , doings and proceedings shall be held to be null and void .
This denial of the Right to the “ Palladium of Liberty “ in Australian Courts , contravenes the Vision and the Mission of the International Commission of Jurists as  set out in your website of  http://www.icj.org/about/ .
2. Denying Legal Procedures :
“ Once jurisdiction is challenged , it must be proven . “  ( Jagens v. Levine , 415 S.Ct.768  ) .
“ Jurisdiction can be challenged at any time , even on final determination .  “ ( Basso v. Utah Power and Light Co , 495 2nd 906 at 910 ) .
“ Where there is an absence of jurisdiction , all administrative and judicial proceedings are a nullity and confer no right , offer no protection . and afford no justification , and may be rejected upon direct  collateral attack .“  ( Thompson v. Tolmie , 2 Pet. 157, 7 L.Ed . 382 ; Griffiths v. Frazier , 8 Cr . 9 , 3L . Ed . 471 ) .
By Australian Judges disregarding the consent of parties to have proceedings conducted summarily , they deprive the court of jurisdiction and compound the wrong by disregarding the Legal Procedure of Challenging the Jurisdiction of the Court in typical “ Star Chamber  “ or  “ Kangaroo Court  “ fashion .
3 . Denying Access to Courts :
To protect themselves from exposure and being held accountable , the Australian Judiciary has taken to denying People the Right of Free Access to Courts , as per the Free Access to Courts Act 1400 , by having Registry staff not processing properly , written papers such as Statements of Claim , Summons and accompanying Affidavits to initiate an action seeking resolutions to situations . The staff in the Registries are told to refer such applications to a Judge who then gives a direction in writing that permission must be given by a Judge before they can be filed . This means that a Judge has assumed the power to arbitrarily prevent someone even going to court—let alone having equality before the law . This is Tyranny in the extreme . This is the deprivation of the most primal quality of being human . It is exclusion and Slavery .
It ought to fall to the Sheriffs “ to ensure that people can exercise their rights in court in safety  “—but the Australian Judiciary have corrupted them by intimidation to physically assault and either remove someone demanding their Rights from the court and either out into the street or into a prison cell “ to teach them a lesson  “ in servility .
Should a dissenter maintain their position of demanding their Rights , Australians Judges charge them with “ Contempt of Court  “ and summarily punish them . This is another example of how the Australian Judiciary regard themselves as superior to the People because , in 1988 , a National Referendum to alter the Australian Constitution to exclude Trial by Jury from Contempt of Court and Courts Martial was resoundingly defeated – and Australian Judges have chosen to disregard the Will of the People to continue to summarily punish ( many times by imprisonment ) anyone who dares to challenge their authority .
4, Practitioners of Slavery :
A Slave has no Right of Consent
A Slave has no Right to Property .
A Slave has no Right to Trial by Jury .
Australian Judges have assumed absolute power over People while adopting a “ Doctrine of Immunity  “ for themselves .
TO CONCLUDE THIS LETTER
Ecclesiastes 3 ; 16  “  Moreover I saw under the sun : In places of judgement , Wickedness was there ; And in the place of righteousness , Iniquity was there .  “
Yours sincerely ,
John Wilson
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LEAK 75

We have a BIG problem with Queensland Police Commissioner Ian Stewart !
The attached news report is an indication of the type of person who has been elected into office and this is only a part of the problem !
This so called “ leader  “ is a law unto himself and is NOT doing his job !
A man in his position who has the attitude of “ it is my way or the highway  “ is someone totally lacking in leadership qualities !
We also call into question his professionalism ( or should we say – lack thereof ) and call on him to step down off his pedestal , admit to the fact that he is exhibiting qualities that do not match those expected of a policeman in his position .
How can someone who professes to be a professional policeman MAKE A JUDGEMENT on a case where he admits to :-
NOT having viewed tapes of a police interview between one of his officers , child safety and the mother ?
NOT viewed the interview between the children and the the police ,child safety ?
REFUSES to accept the analysis by a qualified individual of the interview , said interview not having been watched by himself ?
NOT having read any of the supervisor’s reports of abuse by the father ?
NOT having viewed ANY of the other police and child safety interviews of the girls ?
What an abject display of ignorance by this so called leader Ian Stewart !
The fact that a child , YES A CHILD , Ian Stewart , has a sexually transmitted infection and a bleeding anus is of NO concern to you , says it all doesn’t it ?
We invite the Queensland Police Commissioner to view the evidence we have referred to !
He is welcome to use this platform to respond to our comments as we stand to be corrected on villifying this man !
We also know he will not do so as he thinks he is beyond reproach !
You are a disgrace to your uniform , the public whom you serve and those who serve under you !
We also have a problem with Minister for Child Safety Hon Shannon Fentiman MP and Michael Hogan the Director General of  Communities ( including Child Safety ) who promise to do something and then do nothing to fulfil their promises . Indicative of all that is wrong with the child protection system !
You are both a disgrace !
And now we wait to see what Malcolm Turnbull , Bill Shorten and  AnnastaciaPalaszczuk  do to make amends and look into this matter ?
A PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION is what is needed Mr Prime Minister !
A Townsville Community Cabinet Meeting was held on 29/03/2015 .
Re Bronte and Isabella Watter
In attendance ,
Yvette DÁth MP
Jo-Anne Miller MP
Shannon Fentiman MP
Queensland Police Commissioner Ian Stewart
Director General of Communities ( including child safety ) , Michael Hogan
Regional Director of Child Safety Nicola Jeffers
North Queensland Regional Director for Communities
Main concern for the meeting – is that the Watter twins , if found , will be returned to their father MICHAEL WATTER’S care without any new and thorough investigation being carried out , taking into account and recognising the inadequacy of the previous investigations .
Major concerns
1. Inadequacy of investigations to date by Police and Child Safety
2. Failure of the Independent Lawyer for the children ( Joanne Meade , employed by Legal Aid in Townsville ) to place a prime focus on the needs and interests of the children ,
3, Biased , negative mindset of all the government employees – Police , Child Safety , Independent Lawyer for the children , against the mother and ALL witnesses to disclosures made by the girls .
4. Failure of the government employees to consider that they may have been charmed ( groomed/conned ) by the father . This is a serious omission , given that “grooming “is well-documented in research on child sexual abuse .
Elaboration of these concerns
Inadequacy of investigations by Police and Child Safety
1. Failure to consider all the evidence re Child Sexual Abuse ( CSA ) and , in particular
    a. Reports submitted by contact supervisors
    b. Statements submitted by all other people who heard the girls make disclosures
    c. A notification that one of the girls had reportedly been diagnosed with an STI and a torn anus
2. Disbelief accorded to disclosures made by the two 5 year old girls in interviews with Police and Child Safety . This was particularly marked after
    a. Isabella retracted her disclosures after 3 nights in a foster home , saying “it was a dream “. This is consistent with research on young children’s pattern of reporting disclosures but the government professionals appear to not have this knowledge and appear to have been predisposed to accept the retraction at face value , possibly on account of the bias they held in favour of the father .
    b.Isabella tells the police interviewer that mummy told her to tell the police about what Daddy does to her and her sister . This was misinterpreted by the police as mummy having coached Isabella in what to say whereas , from the contact supervisor’s reports , it is clear that mummy simply encouraged the girls to tell other people what they had told her .There is NO evidence of coaching in the contact supervisor’s reports , it is clear that mummy simply encouraged the girls to tell other people what they had told her . There is NO evidence of coaching in the in the contact supervisor’s reports and , indeed , the complex detail in the disclosures made to the police by the girls could not possibly have been coached at all – let alone by a mother whose total contact with the girls was supervised .
3. Failure of the Child Safety staff present in the interviews with police to act on the balance of probabilities that the children had experienced harm and were at risk of future harm if left in the care of their father . The Child Safety staff appeared to have deferred to the Police who need to assemble evidence beyond all reasonable doubt in order to lay criminal charges . In this way the civil principle of the best interests of the child was subordinated to the interests of police re criminal charges . This indicates failure on the part of Child Safety staff to
    a. Believe what young children say about abuse , against all advice of child sexual abuse literature .
    b. Prioritise concern for the protection of young children , especially in a “ Family Court case “ . In such cases research research has demonstrated how professionals continue to give precedence to a ‘scepticism paradigm ‘rather than to child protection .
    c. Consider the possibility that they , the professionals , may be being groomed by a perpetrator of child abuse – grooming by perpetrators is well documented in research on child sexual abuse .
    d. Value the efforts of a protective mother , rather than misinterpreting her behaviour and deeming it to have caused “emotional abuse “ to the children without double checking their assumptions against the contact supervisors’ reports .This is a key failure in the investigations by police and child safety and contrary to all recommendations emanating from CSA research .
4. Restricting the mother
    a. From making any further reports of possible abuse ,asserting that : they would not be investigated ; charges would be laid against her , and they , the professionals , would recommend to the Family Court that she lose all contact with the girls .
    b. From reading a child protection book with the girls , despite the girls enjoying both the verse and the little black cat . Astonishingly , using this book was perceived by police as tantamount to ‘coaching ‘even though it’s use is recommended by police and Child Safety .
    c. From looking at the girls genitalia , even when , on supervised contact visits , they complained about being sore in that region of their anatomy . If she did she faced arrest .
Failure of the Independent Lawyer for the children ( Joanne Meade , employed by Legal Aid in Townsville ) to place a prime focus on the needs and interests of the children .
1. Failure to forward all supervisor’s reports which contained disclosures of CSA to the Police and Child Safety .
2. Failure to submit all the supervisor’s reports to the Family Court .
3. Attempted—at the father’s request – to influence a psychiatrist to revise his assessment of the mother’s mental health .
Biased , negative mindset of all the government employees, Police , Child Safety , Independent Lawyer for the children – against the mother and all witnesses to disclosures made by the girls .
1. Statements by the police and child safety staff that the mother is mentally ill have been made with no evidential foundation and contrary to the assessments made by 2 psychiatrists and 4 psychologists .
2. Claims by the police and child safety staff that the mother has fabricated allegations of child sexual abuse , seemingly based on a glib assumption that “ this happens in Family Court Cases  “ . Such scepticism on the part of professionals is based on the now discredited theory of parental alienation . This out dated knowledge base is a serious concern since it can lead to failure to protect children from harm .
3. Claims by the Police , Child Safety staff , and the independent lawyer for the children , to take seriously the statements of all persons ( contact supervisors and others ) who heard the girls make disclosures of CSA , despite the complete lack of evidence in the contact supervisor’s reports that this happened .
4. Failure by the police , child Safety , and the independent lawyer for the children , to take seriously the statements of all persons ( contact supervisors and others ) who heard the girls make disclosures , on the grounds that the girls had been coached by their mother . This is despite the complete lack of evidence of ‘behaviour that is of a sustained and repetitive nature during contact with the girls ‘ as claimed in a notification to Child Safety dated 17/07/12 . How this could have been substantiated by child safety without considering the contact supervisors’ reports and interviewing the supervisors is simply incredible .
Failure of the government employees to consider that they may have been charmed ( groomed/conned ) by the father. This is a serious omission on their part , given that ‘grooming ‘is well documented in research on child sexual abuse .
1. The bias of police , child safety staff , and the independent lawyer for children in favour of the father and against the mother ( and against all witnesses to the girls disclosures ) has been palpable throughout this case and , once entrenched , has not been exposed to critically reflective scrutiny . Or , if it has , there has been a built-in inclination to not revise their professional judgements and admit to having been wrong .
2. In this regard there appears to be an implicit assumption that while the girls and their mother are missing this critical scrutiny is not necessary and that , when they are found , it will continue to be not necessary as the mother will be incarcerated and the girls will be returned to their father’s care .
Conclusions and Recommendation
This latter outcome – return of the girls to their father’s care – is our greatest concern . It is our belief that if this happens the girls would be at risk of serious harm in their father’s care and the authorities would be guilty of failing to act to protect young children from harm .
In our view , it is essential that if , or when , the children are located that they be placed in the care of loving family members , or close family friends , rather than strangers such as foster carers !
Due to the fact that the paternal grandmother , Mrs Patricia Watter , lives with a serious mental illness and also suffers with many physical health issues . In our view it would be in the best interests of the children to be placed with the maternal grandparents , Heather and Arthur Doubleday . Heather and Arthur are Blue card holders and they still have the children’s bedroom as it was when they lived at their home in 2011 , with some of their animals also there for for them to play with . It would be very familiar to them and would afford a sense of security .
RESPONSE FROM THE MEETING
From : Arthur Doubleday
To: Freda Briggs
Cc: Recipient 1 , Recipient 2 , Recipient 3 , Recipient 4 , Recipient 5 .
Dear Freda ,
on the afternoon of Sunday 29th March 2015 , we organised a deputation to meet with some ministers in the new Queensland Labor Government :-
Attorney General etc. Hon Yvette DÁth MP
Minister for Police etc. Hon Jo-Anne Miller MP
Minister for Communities etc. Hon Shannon Fentiman MP
We were allotted a time slot of 2.45 pm with the Hon Jo-Anne Miller MP the Minister for Police etc.only .
Our deputation included Heather and I , Emeritus Professor Rosamund Thorpe , specializing in Social Work and Community Welfare , with over 45 years experience , Ms Virginia Hall , Adjunct Senior Lecturer Community Welfare , Mrs Rae Greaves , Dip. Community Welfare , worker for many years at Sera Womens Shelter and volunteer at Domestic Violence Service Centre Townsville and Mrs Rhonda Lane . The last three ladies were registered supervisors of Cassie while with her daughters Isabella and Bronte Watter . These supervisors were approved by the family court , Independent children’s lawyer , Ms Joanne Meade and Mr Michael Watter . These supervisors and ourselves had been told by Bronte and Isabella , allegations of sexual , physical and psychological abuse perpetrated against them by their father , Mr Michael Watter .
The Minister for Police was assisted by the Queensland Police Commissioner , Ian Stewart and another high ranking police officer whose name escapes us .
From the outset , the Commissioner ‘took the floor ‘ , was not interested in any evidence we presented , as he stated it was only ‘hearsay ‘or anything we had to say . He kept repeating that we should let Mrs. Watter , Cassie , know that she should be brave enough to come forward and state her case and allow the children to be further interrogated , as it was the only way that the case could be solved . He also stated that the police had been away from their father too long .
The Commissioner admitted that he had not viewed the the tapes of the Police interview between Det Sgt David Miles , Constable Michelle Faint , Child Safety and the children . He also admitted that he had not viewed that interview of Cassie with David Miles and Child Safety and refused to accept the analysis of that interview by Dr Pamela Schultz , that he had not read any of the supervisors reports of abuse by the father against the girls or viewed any of the other police interviews of the girls with Police and Child Safety .
The Commissioner continued to ‘ shut us down ‘every time we attempted to speak , repeating his line that nothing could be done until Cassie returned with the children . He inferred often that we knew where she was and would be able to contact her , even saying that her brothers and sister would surely be in contact with her on social media .
The Hon Jo-Anne Miller MP sat throughout all of the dialogue , saying very little and often with her mouth agape as she appeared quite horrified . She did say, on at least three occasions , that we should be speaking with the Minister for Child Safety .
Bear in mind that if Cassie and the girls were ‘brave enough ‘to come forward and be interviewed by Police and Child Safety to only be told , yet again , by Det Snr Sgy David Miles that she was a liar and he did not believe her or the children , she is not likely to come forward .
A short meeting was arranged with the Minister for Child Safety Hon Shannon Fentiman MP and even though though we had to sit and wait for sometime , we feel that it was worth the wait . This delegation included , Michael Hogan , Director General of Communities ( including child safety ) , the new North Queensland Regional Director for Communities , Sandra ( ? ) and the Regional Director of Child Safety Nicola Jeffers . We had been informed that the Review being conducted by Child Safety for some 10 months had been finalised but Mr Hogan informed that the Review , our statements , interview tapes , and all other relevant material .This was encouraging . He informed Heather and I that he would be arranging for us to be interviewd , in the near future and that we should present all evidence
I let the ‘dust ‘settle before writing this as we were all breathless by the ignorance shown to us by the Commissioner .
We will keep you up to date .
Yours sincerely
Heather and Arthur Doubleday

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How long must we wait for your help Mr. Turnbull ? #Leak74 #WikiDetectives

LEAK 74
Mr. Turnbull ,
    we have in our possession a letter which states that both of the girls spoke “ about gunk coming out of their vaginas  “   and the fact that one had blood coming out of her anus !!!!!

    What do you think the “ gunk  “ was Mr. Turnbull ?

     Maybe MICHAEL WATTER would like to answer that question ! The children , after all , were in his custody !

    Would that type of disclosure not horrify you Mr. Turnbull ?
    WHY do you think this evidence/disclosure was NOT presented in court Mr. Turnbull ?
    All of this was reported to the authorities concerned and yet NOTHING WAS DONE TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN !
    If your child had a sexually transmitted infection , wouldn’t you want to know where it came from and WHY the question was not asked in the court ? Particularly when that same infection had previously been passed onto the mother by the father MICHAEL WATTER !
   Answer us that , please ,  Mr. Turnbull !
   Does it not sound strange to you that NONE of this was disclosed in court Mr. Turnbull ?
   Does the fact that the mother was cross examined in court for FOUR days and the father less than ONE day not raise your suspicion that something was amiss Mr. Turnbull  ?
    Why don’t you tell us ,  Mr. Turnbull , how you would react to a court and it’s findings where all of this happened ? Do nothing ? Sit back and accept everything ? Or stand up for your rights and continue to do so until there is a
                                                         PUBLIC   RE INVESTIGATION 
We await your urgent help and advices with great interest !

Help to Free The Watter Twins , Mr. Turnbull  !

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We are waiting Mr. Turnbull ! #Leak73 #WikiDetectives

LEAK 73

Note there were five entities this letter to the Premier was copied to !

You can run but you can’t hide Premier !

All the way with this investigation there has been nothing but cover ups !

All the way with this investigation there has been nothing but GROSS NEGLIGENCE !

All the way with this investigation there has been nothing but inaction !

All the way with this investigation there has been nothing but GROSS INEPTITUDE !

All the way with this investigation there has been nothing but threats from the police to the mother !

Illegalities all round by the police !

The collusion between the police and MICHAEL WATTER is plain to see ! Disgusting !

There is a deep rooted corruption here !

The Commissioner of the CCC has done NOTHING !

The Premier has done NOTHING !

The Queensland Police have done NOTHING !

The Federal Police have done NOTHING !

 

The Prime Minister has done NOTHING – YET ?

 

 

How many times do we have to tell you – THE ONE CHILD HAD A SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTION ! THE OTHER CHILD HAD A BLEEDING ANUS !!

 

The sooner there is a

PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION

the better !

 

 

 

Letter to Premier

 

From: Freda Briggs ( Freda.Briggs@unisa.edu.au )

Sent: Monday 10 November2014

To: Recipient 1 , Recipient 2 , Recipient 3 , Recipient 4 , Recipient 5 .

 

Dear Premier

 

It is some time since I wrote to you about the Watter twins who , for about eight months have been in hiding with their mother . Can I remind you that I lodged very serious complaints against Townsville Police Det Sgt David Miles , Michelle Faint and the child safety officer who ignored the children’s disclosures of sexual abuse by their father , bullied them and their mother and left the  5 year old children alone in a room for an hour .. all of this captured on CCTV . The mother fled with them because police ( illegally ) banned her from making further reports of abuse ( ignoring my reports ) threatened to arrest the mother for examining her daughter’s genitals and ignored a sexually transmitted infection and torn anus , reporting abuse by the father and his influential friends to 12 witnesses who were never interviewed . Lawyers asked me to critique the DVD’s of interviews . The bullying of the mother was so serious ( 46 pages of transcript ) that I had the language analysed and an article was published by Cambridge University Press in the recent edition of Children Australia . It will also appear in a law journal . We are about to analyse and publish the language used with the children  . It is now 18 months since my complaint went to CCC who sent it to another police officer ( who is not an expert in child development ) to investigate themselves . The relationship between police and the father is such that the father received a copy of my complaint ( which was not about him ) , put it on the internet and wrote offensive emails to me . I met the police officer responsible for the inquiry 3 weeks ago and he said that his report was completed at the end of last year . It has disappeared . The Commissioner of CCC said that he would trace it and contact me 3 weeks ago . He didn’t . With Hetty Johnson ( Bravehearts )  I met the advisor to the Attorney General . We would like an inquiry into the handling of this case . You suggested some time ago that I should meet your Minister responsible for children . She refused to see me on the grounds of ‘privacy ‘. I have been told by a reliable source that she proclaims that ‘ the father is innocent ‘ and the mother is mentally ill . I said I wished to discuss my complaint , not the case in question . She refused . In the meantime Det Sgt Miles has appeared on TV as the officer still responsible for child protection in Townsville and he was said to have been working in Brisbane advising on handling family violence , which , given his history , is ludicrous . Given the time that has elapsed, I am left with the conclusion that state authorities are ignoring the serious allegations in the hope that the children will be traced . The Family Court Judge has already said the mother will be jailed and no doubt she will be banned from seeing the children until they are 18 , which has happened in similar cases . You can then all blame the Family Court when the real problem lies within state services .

I hope that you can take some action in this case because right now Queensland’s reputation for protecting children is in jeopardy .

 

Yours sincerely

 

Professor Freda Briggs AO

Emeritus Professor in Child Development

University of South Australia

Magill Campus

SA 5072

 

 

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LEAK 72

Professor Freda Briggs encapsulates in one statement what we feel about Sgt. Miles and the subsequent police actions – asking whether this –

  “ Sgt. Miles is a liar or imcompetent or an incompetent liar “

Why would this type of statement even need to be made unless there is something seriously wrong in the State of Queensland !!

Sgt. Miles denies having been made aware of the child sexual abuse and went on to tell a reporter that the children had not told anyone else about the father sexually abusing them ! Further to this Miles ( after having been read the statements of the people the sex abuse was reported to ) said that the police did not have any of their statements as he would have seen them in the documents sent to him by Cassie’s ( useless )  solicitors !

Even if one was to accept as Gospel what Miles had to say , the question needs to be asked , WHY did he not then follow up on this , dig deeper , and do his job ?

We accept that Freda’s comments on Miles appear to be 100% correct !

Note the response from the Minister’s office . Everyone on the back foot , covering each other’s backsides ! Too scared to talk ! Too scared to tell the truth and yet the health and well being of the little girls is not on anyone’s agenda to fix !

When told that one of the children had a sexually transmitted infection and the other child a damaged anus we see no one jumping up and down expressing shock and horror ! All one gets is cover up after cover up after cover up !

 

All of this should and MUST lead to a

PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION !!

 

See below further correspondence from Freda Briggs in relation to Minister and Premier ‘s departments :-

 

From: Freda Briggs

Sent: 17 August 2014 12:02:46 AM

To: Recipient 1, Recipient 2 , Recipient 3 , Recipient 4, Recipient 5 .

Cc: Recipient 1 , Recipient 2 .

 

I had a call from the office of the Minister responsible for children on Friday

Late last year I received a letter from your Premier asking me to make an appointment to see her . As I will be in Brisbane for a day next moth and for several days in October I asked for an appointment .

The caller asked why I wanted to see the Minister and I said “ Because the Premier suggested it “ .

She said , “Well the Minister won’t be able to discuss the Watter children “

I said “Why not ? “

“Because the matter is being investigated , there are issues of confidentiality and you need to report your concerns to the Crime and Misconduct Commission “.

I said that I was the one who lodged the complaint in the first place and I only wished to discuss my complaint . Furthermore I lodged the complaint to the CMC about 18 months ago and all they did was appoint a policeman to investigate the inappropriate interviewing of 5 year old CSA victims by police . Is a male Police Inspector in Brisbane likely to be an expert in the use of developmentally appropriate language for 5 year olds ? I doubt it .

She then said it was a matter for the Minister of Police

No , I said , it’s a matter for you because child safety was involved . And as a result of this tardiness ( now with accusations of possible corruption ) there is a risk that the children will be found , the judge has already said that the mother will be jailed and the children will be automatically returned to their father who is accused of abuse . And all that the interviewing officer has said so far is is that the mother should have mediation with these cowboy police in Townsville .

I told her that I had also personally reported child sex abuse — the STI and damaged anus to Inspector Craig Weatherley and therefore it is a child protection issue .

I hit a brick wall and finally told her that the Australian and Courier Mail had contacted me and in my view , the child protection sustem in Queensland is a disgrace .

She said “You have made that very clear Professor Briggs “.

I am sick to death of buck – passing bureaucrats .

We are having a Royal Commission and a Select Parliamentary Inquiry into our incompetent child protection services but complaints tend to relate to social workers , not police . Our police do not usually interview children under eight .

 

Freda

 

 

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Leak 71

 

Freda Briggs clearly shows her views on the police and in particular Inspector Craig Weatherley here !

Craig Weatherly demonstrates that one needs a shovel and a wheelbarrow when dealing with his emails !

Your children are sick Craig Weatherly whilst Cassie’s children were getting raped by their father !

Tell someone who cares !

It is OBVIOUS to many of us that there is/was collusion between the police and Michael Watter – NO other explanation is there ?

This PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION needs a close look at you and the cover ups within the police department on this case !

The only closure we want from you Craig Weatherley is that the charges against the mother are withdrawn and the case PUBLICLY RE INVESTIGATED so that many of the questions being asked about the cover ups and corruption in this case may be answered ! The children may then receive the counselling so desperately needed and you can go back to your sick children and the twins may continue knowing that they are safe from further sexual abuse !

WE are not asking for much Inspector Weatherley and if you were an honest man you would be calling for the same would you not ?

 

From: Freda Briggs ( Freda Briggs@unisa.edu.au )

Sent: Wednesday , 6th August 2014 9:30:51 PM

To: ————————–

Cc: —————-   ———————

 

Michael Watter said police were trying to trace the origin of the document so who told him ? Police of course .

 

Dr Freda Briggs AO

Emeritus Professor in Child Development

University of South Australia

Magill Campus

SA 5072

 

—- Original Message —-

From: Weatherley.Craig@police.qld.gov.au

( mail to: Weatherley@police.qld.gov.au )

Sent: Wednesday , 6 August 2014 9:59 AM

To: Freda Briggs

Subject: RE; Facebook slander

Hi Freda,

My apologies for not responding sooner . I can give you my unequivocal assurance your complaint , personal details and the like have not been given to or discussed with Michael Watter from my end . The report was sent to the Ethical Standard Command back in January and I have undertaken more interviews in recent weeks . I have added these interviews to the original report and , provided the ESC / CMC agree with and recommendations , I am hopeful there will be some closure to the police conduct side of this matter sooner rather than later .

I’m aware the facebook profile is a fake one and the regional policing are investigating that aspect of it .

Again , please accept my sincere apologies for the delay in responding to you on this occasion . Work commitments have been unprecedented lately and my children have been sick , hence some time away from the desk .

I will update you as soon as I hear from ESC and the CMC ,

 

Kind regards

Craig

Craig Weatherley

Detective A/Inspector 8249

Governance and Renewal

Office of the Deputy Commissioner ( Strategy , Policy and Performance )

 

From: Freda Briggs

Sent; Sunday 27 July 2014 10;23;05 PM

To; Weatherley.CraigI(Spp)

Cc: Michael Watter

Subject: RE: Facebook Slander

Craig I have just had an angry phonecall from Michael Watter .

Who gave him my phone number ? It obviously wasn’t Cassie Watter.

I did not put this on the internet. I wouldn’t know how .

I avoid facebook .

I don’t know anyone of that name .

I do know that you said that the report would be published last November and it’s now the end of July . Furthermore the subject of the complaint is still appearing in the media as being responsible for child protection .

And given that my complaint to the Crime and Misconduct Commission was about the behaviour of police , not Michael Watter , can you please explain why a copy of my complaint was given to him .

Yours sincerely

Emeritus Professor Freda Briggs AO

 

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LEAK 70

This email from the Late Freda Briggs to the Minister once again amplifies the need for a RE INVESTIGATION into this case !

NO action was taken AGAIN by the Minister !

As Freda quite correctly states – “ what exactly does one have to do to protect these poor children from sexual abuse in Townsville “  ? A fair question under the circumstances !

Freda quite correctly states that the evidence suggests that the police are not – and shouldn’t be allowed to be anywhere young children and yet the authorities proceed along their own merry way regardless , whilst the children in this case continue to be sexually abused !

NOTHING of substance from the Minister ! WHY ?

 

WAKE UP AND HELP FREE THESE CHILDREN MINISTER !!

 

From: Freda Briggs Freda.Briggs@unisa.edu.au

Date: Sunday.May 11, 2014 1.33 PM

To; aspley@parliament.qld.gov.au

Cc: ———————

Attach: Child Safety Interview 3rd March 2013.docx ; ————–call to Detective Sergeant David Myles on 17th Jan.docx

Dear Minister

I forward the email I received from — ——– ———— — — —— —– referred to in my previous email .

I am staggered by the attitudes displayed by these persons whose roles are supposedly to protect children .

Det.Sgt Miles refers to the interviews with the children which are the subject of my complaint to the unresponsive Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission .

This leads me to ask , what exactly does one have to do to protect children from sexual abuse in Townsville ?

It is unfortunate that while schools teach children to “tell and keep on telling “if someone molests them , when they do tell ,their mothers are accused of “training n”them .

I cannot begin to imagine the psychological harm that this causes .

I saw the before and after DVD’s of the children being interviewed and you would not have recognised them as the same children, such was the change in their appearance and demeanour .

I have had contact from another mother from another Townsville mother who is taking civil action against the department for failing to heed her children who are now over eighteen and suffering from PTSD as a result of their abuse .

I do hope that you can take action to stop the bullying and ensure that professionals in this field are adequately trained . The evidence suggests strongly that they are not – and shouldn’t be allowed to be anywhere near young children .

 

Yours sincerely

Professor Freda Briggs AO

Child Development

University of South Australia

Magill Campus

SA 5072

 

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LEAK 69
MICHAEL WATTER – you are a pig of the first order !
Not only do you infect your wife with a sexually transmitted disease you piece of scum you do the same to your daughter ! The other daughter bleeds from her anus ! Where exactly does your depravity stop ? Is the dog safe you perverted piece of dirt ?
Is it any wonder the mother ran away from you , foregoing her home , her car , relatives , friends and employment ? What else could she do to stop you from fornicating with her daughters !
The actions of the police in this instance are horrifying ! Gross ineptitude ! Gross incompetence ! Cover ups at the top !
No wonder the desperate mother ran away with her children – any person worth their salt would have done the same thing !
Miles and Faint without any shadow of doubt enabled MICHAEL WATTER to continue to sexually abuse his twin girls thus resulting in one of them catching a sexually transmitted disease – you must be so proud of yourselves Detective Sgt David Miles and Officer Michelle Faint !
To compound this negligence , Miles then gives the father free reign to continue fornicating with his daughters by telling the mother the police would not investigate any further complaints of sexual abuse ! That must have made MICHAEL WATTER ’s day to know that he was free to do as he pleased with his little girls ! An open licence to fornicate with his two young girls to his hearts content !
We have previously reported on Dr. Pamela Schultz ( UniSA’s expert in discourse analysis ) publishing her thoughts on the police interviews in a journal which shows you how bad she thought it really was and yet nothing concrete was done about about it by the police ! To add insult to injury the police in their wisdom employ one Inspector Weatherly to investigate Miles and Faint . From the further evidence and paper work at our disposal it is evident Weatherly was about as useful as a pork chop in a synagogue ! We will provide this paperwork in due course .
The Queensland Police do NOTHING of consequence and leave an incompetent individual in charge of child protection in Townsville – says it all doesn’t it ?
Is it an wonder the mother is now wanted by the police ?
Is it any wonder we are calling for this matter to be publicly looked at ?
A PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION IS URGENTLY NEEDED !!
These cover ups must STOP !
From: Freda Briggs
Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2014 10;50 PM
Subject: Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission
Dear Premier ,
Thank you for your letter inviting me to meet your colleagues . I expect to be in Brisbane briefly for a day early in September and will see if arrangements can be made then .
Unfortunately , I have to report a very serious concern that I feel obliged to to bring to your attention as other avenues have failed . This concerns the unprofessional behaviour Townsville Police and the ineffectiveness of the Crime and Misconduct Commission which has led a Townsville mother , Cassie Watter , to abandon her home , car , relatives , friends and employment to go into hiding to protect her twin daughters , thereby breaching a Family Court Order . When located , she will most certainly be jailed and banned from contacting her children until they are eighteen – as happened in a Sydney Family Court last week .
In October , 2012 , I was asked by Townsville lawyers to examine the DVDs and transcripts of police interviews of ( a ) Cassie Watter’s twin children , then aged five and ( b ) a police interview of the mother . The transcript of the latter was about 46 pages long . These showed that police failed to investigate allegations of child sexual abuse and operated at the outset from the premise that the mother had trained the children to make false reports . The father had already been given residence of the children by the Family Court . The 5 year old children had sought help from 12 people , including a psychologist none of whom were interviewed . Although the mother only had supervised contact with her children , police accused her of “training “ them to make the reports . Detective Sgt David Miles and Officer Michelle Faint bullied the mother , told her that the father had never abused the children and never would ( an assurance that no responsible professional would ever give ) . They acted as quasi-psychologists and threatened to charge the mother ( who was director of a paediatric health centre ) , with an undisclosed offence if she examined her daughters genitals . Miles said that police would never investigate any further disclosures of abuse , as a result of which the father would know that that he could do whatever he liked and police would not intervene . Detective Miles ordered the mother to respond to future allegations of abuse by telling the children that it was ‘just a dream ‘. He suggested that the allegations related to one of the twins having a dream about having sex with her father when she was only 2-3 years old . I produced international research evidence showing that a child would not be able to recall a single dream that she had at the age of 2-3 when she was five and she would not have dreamt about sex unless it was based on an experience . It was later revealed that the idea of the dream came from police , not the child and , furthermore , both of the twins disclosed sexual abuse .
Dr, Pamela Schultz . UniSA’s expert in discourse analysis analysed the police conversation which is being published ( attached )
Shocked by the bullying , the unprofessional behaviour ,and the very serious consequences of this , I lodged a formal complaint with Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission ( attached )  . The complaint was accepted but I was somewhat concerned that a Brisbane Police Inspector , Craig Weatherly was appointed to investigate my complaint against fellow police  . I was concerned that the inspector was unlikely to have the expertise to judge the developmentally inappropriate language that was used when interviewing children of this age .
Fourteen months later , Cassie Watter contacted me with the news that one of her children had a sexually transmitted infection which the father had previously passed onto her . She also found that one of the girls had a damaged and bleeding anus . The mother was desperate because only the father is allowed to seek medical help for the children and the mother was banned from reporting child abuse . As I am a mandated reporter , I reported this to Brisbane Inspector Weatherly .
His response to me was that he was trying to arrange mediation for the mother and Detective Miles while admitting that this was unlikely to be successful . More than a year after making the complaint I was astonished to find that Detective Miles is still responsible for child protection and he was the spokesperson responding to media when the mother and children disappeared .
I find it astonishing that well over a year ago , the complaint was accepted by Queensland’s Crime and Misconduct Commission and the failure to take any action has resulted in a mother risking imprisonment to protect her daughters . I also questioned the value of employing a police inspector to investigate a complaint against his own colleagues . I hope that you can take action to change this state of affairs .
Yours sincerely
Professor Freda Briggs AO
Emeritus Professor in Child Development
University of South Australia
Magill Campus
SA 5072

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More threats from that cowardly , little man , Michael Watter !! More reports of sexual abuse !! #Leak68 #WikiDetectives

Another independent observation of this cowardly little man MICHAEL WATTER  and the intimidation and sexual abuse of his two little girls !
In addition , more evidence that this little man is a bully who threatens innocent people .
This letter was sent two years ago in regard to International Missing Children’s day and yet there he was , lieing like a tickey watch and standing with and next to the Morcombe’s at this years Missing Children’s day !
I hope someone shares this page to those poor people just to show them what ( notice I did not say who ) they were standing next to !
Pathetic , cowardly creature that he is ! You disgust us MICHAEL WATTER !!!
24 May 2015
                                                                                                                        Confidential
To Whom It May Concern
I am writing to express my concern with the decision to appoint Michael Watter as a spokesperson for the International Missing Children’s day .
Initially , I was appalled to hear that he was asked to act as a spokesperson , but I realise that the majority of stakeholders have only heard his side of events relating to the disappearance of Cassie Watter and the couple’s children , Bronte and Isabella ( 7 ) , in April last year.
I wish to provide you with further information so that you may make an informed decision as to whether Michael Watter should have been a spokesperson for such an important event .
I have known his spouse , Cassie Watter , for more than ten years and I have been her confidant up until her disappearance in April 2014 . She spoke with me over the phone and sent many emails and reports to me during the traumatic time after separation from her husband . As a result , I have compiled this letter to provide you with the facts of this matter as known to me and for which I have documentary evidence .
Contrary to the untrue claims Mr Watter has made about his former wife , Cassie was an accomplished businesswoman , an active community worker and a loving mother . Cassie received the Prime Minister’s award for service to the community ; was a professional businesswoman who owned a multi-disciplinary paediatric allied health practice ; was recognised with a Rotary Club Paul Harris Fellowship; and kept her and her children’s abuse by her husband private .
The deterioration in the children’s wellbeing has been well documented :
2009:      Cassie Watter started attending Domestic Violence counselling at Relationships Australia in September of 2009 . Michael agreed to attend but only committed to a few sessions .
2011:      Cassie fled the family house with the girls while Mr Watter was playing rugby , in a bid to escape further abuse . She left with only clothing , leaving other possessions behind .
2011:      September : after continuing threats from Mr Watter and his friends , a Domestic Violence Order was sought by police in order to protect Cassie and the children . Mr Watter contested the order , with the assistance of a barrister , but a DVO was still awarded , with both Cassie and Isabella being listed as in need of protection from Mr Watter and his friends .
2011:      Both children displayed an increasing terror of their father and an extreme unwillingness to be left alone with him . They were having nightmares and regressed in toileting .
2011:      Disclosures of sexual and emotional abuse were made to a child psychologist and occupational therapist . Cassie was not present when the disclosures were made . Police did not interview these professionals as they had already reached the conclusion that Cassie was coaching the children .
2011:      Medical history indicated possible sexual abuse with one girl complaining of severe genital pain after abuse by father . The GP was not interviewed .
2011:      November: Despite this evidence of risk to the children , the Family Court of Australia awarded sole custody of the children to Mr Watter without testing any of the evidence . Mr Watter initiated an emergency hearing , claiming that Cassie was causing the girls emotional harm by forcing them to believe he was angry and that he was harming them . Cassie was also ( unfairly ) blamed for emotional harm caused to the girls during the police interview .
The outcome was that Cassie only had strictly supervised access to the children . She consented for adjustments to the orders over following years , such as for independent supervisors to be appointed , the girls to receive counselling ( which occurred over three years later ) , the girls to see their maternal grandparents , that she be notified of doctor’s visits by the girls , that Cassie undego a psychiatric assessment to prove her sanity , the girls not to be moved from Townsville , and that the children stay at the same school etc.
Both children continued to disclose ongoing sexual , physical and emotional abuse by their father to the court-appointed supervisors . They reported being punished by their father for disclosures and reported that he said the supervisors “are not safe “ . They also reported that he said that the teachers at the school, and others to whom they may have turned , were now “Daddy’s friends “.
This situation continued from November 2011 , when the children were only four years old , until April 2014 , when they were seven .
In total , 40 disclosures of sexual , physical and emotional abuse were reported to supervisors and professionals over this three year period . Police , Child Safety and Family Court all attributed the disclosures as continued coaching by Cassie even though not one supervisor report indicated that coaching was occurring . Furthermore , the Police and Child Safety repeatedly declined to interview the supervisors .
2014:      March: Cassie was informed that Bronte and Isabella were being treated for multiple vaginal infections and anal bleeding . Police and Child Safety ignored this fact .
               April:Cassie and the girls disappeared . Mr Watter and his associates began a propaganda and harassment campaign to gain public support and to intimidate Cassie’s supporters ( evidence may be provided upon request ) .
Cassie has been subjected to various psychiatric tests and they have proven she has no mental illness .
After reading the facts supplied above , I trust you will reassess any future decision to use Mr Watter as a representative at events which support the safety of children .
There is growing evidence that children who are subject to Family court cases are not being properly protected from harm by the authorities , such as Police , Family Report Writers , Magistrates and Judges .
I marked this letter as confidential as I personally have been subjected to harassment by Mr Watter . One day Bronte and Isabella will be able to speak for themselves . Until that time , I ask that you re-consider your decision to allow a man who is demonstrably violent , to be endorsed and given a place of honour by your organisation in the future .
If you require any further information , please contact me as above .
Yours sincerely

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                                                                  Michael Watter !

In all our posts from now on your name will have prominence as we wish everyone who comes across our page to remember it !

Should you take it upon your self to share our posts to the “Help Find Isabella and Bronte ” page this will of course not be necessary ! We just wonder why you will not share this page or the petition in the interest of your children coming back out of hiding ? Just being coy are you ?

You have probably noted that we have left #Leak67 and#PressStatement9 on our page for a couple of days ? Of course you have , how stupid of us ! You are our most ardent follower !
The reason we have done this is that we want what we have written to sink in , as to the type of person you are , 
                                                                                                                       AND
for the police and public authorities involved in this case , to see and understand the gross negligence that is apparent with ALL that has gone on with the investigation into the sexual abuse of your twin girls !
                                                                                                      We are NOT going away !

                                                   PUBLICLY RE INVESTIGATE !!!!

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Calling all paedophiles ! Calling all paedophiles ! Calling all paedophile enablers ! Oh , sorry little man , we seem to have attracted you and your mates again and for some reason that queue of blind people !

The information just keeps coming in !
The sooner the authorities see their way right to kick starting this PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION the better !

We actually do not have anything better to do than to expose paedophiles like yourself and your mates so please expect us to keep at this !

The team we have working on you finds the exercise gratifying and we are grateful for their efforts as your exposure has brought in a few other paedophiles for us to look at and expose !
These paedophiles are also starting to feel the heat but then we have only just started on them !
We still find it absolutely amazing that the gross negligence that is apparent in your case was not dealt with at the time !
                                                 A PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION IS NEEDED NOW
The fact that Child Safety gathered NO evidence from the witnesses that the allegations of sexual abuse were made to is a jaw dropper !
The fact that ELEVEN further notifications of sexual abuse were made against Michael Watter by the children whilst he had full custody just doesn’t sit right in the brain ! So very sad that these disclosures came despite his continual threatening and punishing as a result of previous disclosures . VERY BRAVE little children !
The fact that the little man was able to access Legal Aid whilst earning a salary of $80 000 . 00 plus benefits . Is this not fraud ?
The fact that the mother was unable to access Legal Aid whilst being forced into insolvency trying to protect her children !
The fact that Dallas Grant a previous employee of the Child Safety Department was commenting on Michael Watter’s “ Help Find Isabella and Bronte Watter’s page “ shows no bias does it ? This idiot passes judgement on the mother when he has NO qualifications that would allow him to assess anyone’s mental state !
The fact that Cassie had visited and been assessed by 2 Psychiatrists and 4 Psychologists with all of them clearing her of any mental disorder !
The fact that a Sitting State Member ( who wished to remain anonymous ) stated that Michael Watter’s   UNCLE —  Mark McArdle MP Member for Caloundra (LNP) , would not want to be known to be publicly involved in any way with the case as it would tarnish his reputation ! What reputation would that be Mr. McArdle  MP Member for Caloundra (LNP) ? Being a loving concerned Grand Uncle who was worried about his Grand Nieces being sexually abused ? Or perhaps just that of a normal politician only concerned about himself and his salary and the enablement of a paedophile nephew to continue with his bullying , cowardly , antagonistic and sexual abusing ways ?? Surely you should have been shouting from the roof tops at the gross negligence that is evident here Mr. McArdle MP Member for Caloundra (LNP) ?
The fact that one would have to ask if this man’s position in any way enabled Michael Watter on a salary of $80000 plus a year to utilise the taxpayer to fund his lies and deceit ? Follow our LEAKS is all we will say !
The fact that the little man posted a copy of the court ruling on his page in spite of Section 121 of the Family Law Act and has never been charged !! One reason why we haven’t been shy in exposing and reporting on the system for what it is ! It is called SELECTIVE TARGETING Mr.  Stewart !
FINALLY , the fact that the Queensland Police Commissioner Ian Stewart ‘ s Twitter account has been used to comment and communicate with Michael Watter on this is nothing short of a disgrace – to the extent that Senator David Leyonhjelm picked up on it , criticised the Commissioner and suggested the Commissioner should resign !

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LEAK 66

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No wonder the mother went into hiding with her children ! Any protective mother would have done the same .

No action by Queensland Police , no action by Child Protection Investigation Unit , no investigation by Children’s Services and no action by Queensland Parliamentary Crime and Corruption Committee — the system has let these children down and no one is being held accountable yet an arrest warrant has been issued for the mother to cover up their lack of professionalism , ineptitude and paedophile enabling !

Read this letter ( those of you that are not blind ) and decide for yourself if what we are saying is correct !

 

RE INVESTIGATE , RE INVESTIGATE , RE INVESTIGATE .

 

LEAK 66

Queensland Parliamentary Crime and Corruption Committee

Parliament House

George Street Brisbane

Qld   4000.

 

26th November 2014

 

Dear Committee Members,

 

We are the grandparents of Isabella & Bronte Watter who, with our daughter Ms Catherine (Cassie) Watter, went into hiding on 4th April 2014 and are still missing.

 

We believe that, due to evidence which has emerged since 1st April 2014 and the failure of the Queensland Police notably the Child Protection Investigation Unit and Childrens Services in Townsville to adequately protect these children, prompted Ms Watter to break the law (which we do not condone) in taking her children into hiding.

 

We contacted the C.M.C. (now C.C.C.) on 24th April 2014 and the forwarding letter with their reply, are attached.

 

Although we, as grandparents, have attempted to report abuse of our grandchildren to C.P.I.U. and Child Safety, on many occasions, they refused to speak with us or take statements from us.  Attached is a list of dates of our attempts to report abuse.

 

We finally met with Child Safety on 17th January 2013 and spoke with and Intake Officer who introduced herself as Ms Gaynor. This Officer was asked on three occasions for her full name and each time she said that it was Ms Gaynor. We discovered, weeks later, that her correct name was actually Ms Gaynor Williams.

 

Ms Williams refused to accept the sexual abuse allegations which both of the children had reported to us. She instructed us to contact Police as Child Safety does not handle sexual abuse to children. Attached is a transcript of that interview with Ms Williams.

 

In desperation, we phoned Snr Sgt David Miles on 20th January 2013. A transcript of this conversation is attached and self-explanatory.

 

As of today’s date, no Police Officer has ever taken official statements from us or any of the many other witnesses to whom the children have disclosed abuse, by their father, to them. We consider this to be inacceptable and an injustice to the children as they are instructed in schools, all over Australia, to tell and keep telling if and when they are being abused.

 

It has now been revealed that the Police and Child Safety interview of Ms Watter was outrageous as they refused to take statements of abuse to the children from her but abused their authority by telling her that no abuse to her children had occurred and never would.  Attached is analysis of the interview by Dr Pamela  D Schulz, critical analysis of the discourse of disbelief in the child sexual abuse. A disturbing report.

 

On Saturday 1st September 2012, Ms Watter with a Court approved supervisor, took the children to Magnetic Island for the day, during which time, the children made several allegations of abuse by the father. On return from the Island, the supervisor insisted that Ms Watter take the children to the Police as she was of the opinion that the children should not go back to the father because of his abuse to them. They arrived at C.P.I.U. headquarters latish afternoon. We were parked outside the Station and at approximately 8.00pm we requested that we be allowed to see our granddaughters. The Officer on duty phoned the C.P.I.U, upstairs and they refused us permission to see the children or take them any food or drinks. It has now been revealed that the C.P.I.U. left the children in an interview room alone for just on an hour with the cameras on and despite the children’s repeated requests for books to read, to go to the toilet and wanting to know where anyone was, the requests were ignored. This action by C.P.I.U. Officers is child abuse in itself.

 

The failures in this case are so immense that Queenslander of the Year, Ms Hetty Johnston of ‘Bravehearts  and Emeritus Professor Freda Briggs AO, have approached the Queensland Premier, the Attorney General and the Minister for Childrens Services, Ms Tracey Davis, seeking an Independent Enquiry into the failure of Queensland Departments to protect these children. The Government, to date, has refused all requests for and Independent Enquiry.

 

Also attached is correspondence to our local MP for Thuringowa, Hon Sam Cox. Mr Cox has, as yet, not replied.

 

We understood that it was a crime to not report child abuse.

 

No doubt, all the interview discs which were conducted by Child Safety and Police of the children are available to your committee for viewing.

 

Please investigate this matter by examining all the available evidence not the Police and Child Safety reports.

 

The father, Mr Michael Watter, appears to have breached Section 121 of the Federal Family Court Act by revealing on Television, Magazines, Facebook and Newspapers photos and names of ourselves and the children. On the other hand, the mother and ourselves are respecting Section 121 of the Act and can never tell the true story. His Honour Justice Peter Tree of the Federal Family Court, made it very clear to Mr Watter and ourselves that section 121 should not be breached and would be enforced.

 

We trust that this matter will be thoroughly investigated, so that the children’s repeated cries for help will be heard.

 

Yours faithfully

Heather & Arthur Doubleday

 

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Child Safety Interview 13th March 2013

OK Folks please come through.

CS Gaynor:  speaking to Neville Abbey  “My information is that as a support person you are

not to make comment OK?

NEVILLE:          No I understand that

ARTHUR:         Support person basically

CC Gaynor:     As a support person you remember that the information remains confidential.

NEVILLE:          Yes

CS Gaynor:      I am also aware that you have been here before.

ARTHUR:         Once

CS Gaynor:      So its OK if I talk  in front of this gentleman.      ARTHUR:         Of course

CS Gaynor:      You have been here before and you have given us information.  My role is to take current  Information OK?  Because if you have provided us with information before we can’t go over old information so I want new information.

ARTHUR:        That’s the reason why we are here today

CS Gaynor:      Beautiful.  So it’s about your grandchildren?

ARTHUR:         Yes

CPIU Gaynor:  Two little girls?

ARTHUR:         Yes

CS Gaynor:      OK I understand is it Isabella?ARTHUR:         Isabella and Bronte Watter.

CS Gaynor:      Is it double T?

ARTHUR:         Yes double T

CS Gaynor:      Alright, now what is your current information?  So it should be new information

That we haven’t received before.

ARTHUR:         We have never been interviewed before by Child Safety.

CS Gaynor:      I’m not interviewing you, you’re bringing me information.

ARTHUR:         Well we have attempted on many occasions to give you information and we

have been unsuccessful.

CS Gaynor:      OK  You understand that to provide us with information all you need to do is call us on intake line and you can provide us information at any time.

ARTHUR:         Did you see the information I brought in the other day about the way we have

tried to contact you and the CPIU?

CS Gaynor:      Ah! No!  That’s OK.  I haven’t all the information because somebody else would’ve already taken that wouldn’t they?

ARTHUR:         It’s very relevant.

CS Gaynor:      So you’ve already documented what you are saying to me now?

ARTHUR:         They weren’t documented I just gave them the information documents

CS Gaynor:      I can give you a phone number.  Did you get the phone number for our intake

Line?

ARTHUR:         No I didn’t.

CS Gaynor:      I’ll give you that number and give you a card if you want or write 1300706147. Right?

ARTHUR:         OK.

CS Gaynor:      That’s Child Safety intake and if it busy at that particular time it will overflow to

another regional intake, but there will always be an intake.  OK? So it will be an

intake service.

ARTHUR:         No problem.

CS Gaynor:      So what is your current information for intake today?

ARTHUR:         Well it goes back to 8th October 2011.

CS Gaynor:      Have you given that information already?

ARTHUR:         No.

CS Gaynor:      So what did you give them when you came in the other day when you said you

came in?

ARTHUR:         Well I gave them information about nothing relevant to what’s happening here.

The file’s there why don’t you go and grab it.  I asked for a copy actually.

CS Gaynor:      I need to know, we can’t provide any information that we are given OK?  Once

we receive information it’s confidential.

ARTHUR:         Yes.

CS Gaynor:      It’s under government procedure and legislation its confidential OK?  So we cannot give that information back out to anybody.

ARTHUR:         Not even ourselves?

CS Gaynor:      Not even yourself.  If you ring up again and say I just rang up the other day I would not tell you what was said or what you provided us with.  Confidential is adhered to.  You have to go through the right intake again and that’s policy.

I can’t break policy.  So if you have got current information you haven’t pro-

vided us after the intake then we take it now.

ARTHUR:         That’s been our intent to date to talk to Child Safety.

CS Gaynor:      But that’s not current information of what you’ve got.

ARTHUR:         But we are going back to 2009.

CS Gaynor:      No, I am talking about current information that you serve us OK

ARTHUR:         Yes

CS Gaynor:      What information you claim in association with the children you are talking about.

ARTHUR:         OK.

CS Gaynor:      Even though you have come in here and you have given information last week?

ARTHUR:         Nothing about the children.

CS Gaynor:      OK.  That’s what I’m after. I’m after what your concerns are about the children.

ARTHUR:         OK we go back to

CS Gaynor:      Your information about trying to contact us has nothing to do with what’s going on with the children.

ARTHUR:         Alright.

CS Gaynor:      I need to know what the concerns are for the children.

ARTHUR:         OK, it’s back to date is 8th October 2011.

CS Gaynor:      You have not provided that to us?

ARTHUR:         No.  No we’ve provided any information to you whatever simply because we haven’t been able to get in contact with you.  We have attempted on many occasions.  We were at home on that day and people called Sheree and Steven Heilbronn turned up at our home, roughly 3 o’clock in the afternoon.

CS Gaynor:      Mm.

ARTHUR:         And that was after there had been a separation and the mother and children were living at our home.

CS Gaynor:      What mother and children?

ARTHUR:         Bronte and Isabella’s mother.

CS Gaynor:      And she was living at your home?

ARTHUR:         Yes

CS Gaynor:      OK

ARTHUR:         And the father had picked the children up and said that he was taking them to the beach.

CS:                   Have you provided this in any court documents or anything?

ARTHUR:         No.

CS Gaynor:      Why not?

ARTHUR:         Well, we can’t talk to anybody.

CS Gaynor:      But we are not the family law court.

ARTHUR:         No.

CS Gaynor: We’re Child Safety and you can ring us up any time and we are open to any organization in the community to ring us.

ARTHUR:         In my attempts to talk to Child Safety madam and we’ve tried on many occasions.

CS Gaynor:      So you’ve had contact with the Regional Director?

ARTHUR:         Mr. Lupe?

CS Gaynor:      Yes

ARTHUR:         Yes, but couldn’t get an interview.  He just said he would let me know what was happening and we’ve got information that’s very relevant to this case.

CS Gaynor:      We do many walk in interviews like today.  We do interviews.

ARTHUR:         Oh yes.  We had to make an appointment to be here today.

CS Gaynor:      Why did you do that?

ARTHUR:         Because I was told to.

CS Gaynor:      Because you came in last week and you said you would be back again today.

ARTHUR:         No.  I said I need an appointment to talk to someone about the children.  She said OK.

CS Gaynor:      Well that’s fine saying that, but we are available anytime.

ARTHUR:         OK

CS Gaynor:      You use phone calls to the intake service at any time but it’s not up to the original intake that you are here.

ARTHUR:         I’ve got to start at the beginning, because you people have no information about our involvement in this case at all.

CS Gaynor:      Alright.

ARTHUR:         None whatever.CS Gaynor:      So, have you been to the police?

ARTHUR:         Several occasions and they won’t talk to us either.

CS Gaynor:      What do you mean by that?  Did they take your information?

ARTHUR:         We went to (um I’ve got it here somewhere).  No they didn’t take the information.

ARTHUR:         Yes

CS Gaynor:      What did you do when you came in last week?

ARTHUR:         I gave them information in relation to a disclosure by our daughter.  That’s all.  Nothing else.  Nothing else was discussed.  The children weren’t even named.

CS Gaynor:      Good

ARTHUR:         Now we’ve been to the Police on 20th January 2012, 8th March 2012, 15th March 2012, 4th July 2012 and 1st October 2012.  Never been able to, oh no Child Safety, sorry.  Those are the dates we attempted to contact you people.

The police 4th October 2012 CPIU in the city.  Now we gave them some information.  The fellow at the front desk said “You sit down there these people will want to talk to you.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

ARTHUR:         The fellow came back and said they will be in touch.  They never have.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

ARTHUR:         They never have. 13th October, no it was 15th October 2012, city CPIU again, same thing, will be in touch.  They didn’t.  19th October 2012 Kirwan Police Station.  We will pass this onto the unit and they will be in touch.  And I appreciate that because I don’t know if there is a unit out at Kirwan and then 7th November 2012 Kirwan Police Station the same thing, never got an interview.  Then January 13th 2013 I rang up Senior Sergeant David Miles who is the Chief of the CPIU and he refused to take the interview.

CS Gaynor:      Does anybody

ARTHUR:         We’ve given them a couple of written statements, that’s all.

CS Gaynor:      Has anybody else in the family provided information?

ARTHUR:         My daughter I would think.

CS Gaynor:      Was it the same information?

ARTHUR:         No.

CS Gaynor:      Why?

ARTHUR:         Well, I don’t know.

CS Gaynor:      What I’m trying to say “Is your information second hand information of first hand information?”

ARTHUR:         It involves us.  It’s first hand information.

CS Gaynor:      You were there?

ARTHUR:         Yes, it was in our home.

CS Gaynor:      OK.  So I’m happy to take what’s first hand information.

ARTHUR:         OK.

CS Gaynor:      I don’t need anything that’s not relevant, only first hand information.

ARTHUR:         I appreciate that.

CS Gaynor:      Because you don’t know if the mother has contacted Child Safety.

ARTHUR:         Many occasions I’d say.  It’s not discussed.

CS Gaynor:      Well then I take your view.  So I’m happy to take it.  So what’s your first view?

ARTHUR:         8th October 2011 Heilbronns’ turned up at our home on Saturday afternoon about 3 o’clock.  Prior to that the father had picked up the children and said that he was taking them to the beach.  When the children came home we were all there and they said that they didn’t go to the beach, they went to the Heilbronns’.  Daddy and Sheree and Mr. Heilbronns were asking questions about where they’re going to live and that worried us and Cassie.  Cassie sent the father and Heilbronn a text “Please don’t involve the children in what’s happening with the breakdown of the marriage.  Mr. & Mrs. Heilbronn turned up at our house as I say.   We invited them inside.  They became very aggressive.  There was a very animated conversation and they made it very clear to us that if we didn’t convince Cassie and the girls to return to the family home with Michael immediately, they’d be in touch with the authorities and have the children taken from the mother.

CS Gaynor:      Let’s talk about the children.

ARTHUR:         No, let’s get the facts.  Would you please write that down?

CS Gaynor:      What my role is and that we are interested in is the risk to the children and harm

to the children.  That’s a conversation you’ve had with another group of people.

But I need to know what the risk is to the children.

ARTHUR:         Well, why don’t you listen to what I’ve got to say?

CS Gaynor:      Now just hold on.

CS Gaynor:      You’re talking about a family law court arrangement OK.

ARTHUR:         We’re talking

CS Gaynor:      We’re talking about a set of people.

HEATHER:       It wasn’t

CS Gaynor:      OK we’re talking about a conversation for family law court.  It was a family…?

ARTHUR:         No

HEATHER:       No.  These people just came into our home and threatened that if our daughter

didn’t go back to her husband with her children they would make sure that she lost the children.

ARTHUR:         They would go to the

HEATHER:       The authorities and make sure she lost the children.

CS Gaynor:      OK.  Did you tell the appropriate authorities this?  Because once again Child

Safety wouldn’t be involved.

ARTHUR:         They were.

CS Gaynor:      Once again there were no children there while it was being discussed with adults

and if you felt threatened you should contact the police.  Did you contact the

Police?

ARTHUR:         We didn’t.

CS Gaynor:      Alright, go on.

ARTHUR:         Now

CS Gaynor:      Don’t, don’t get frustrated.  Bear with me.  I’ve got to perform my role.

ARTHUR:         We’re here.

CS Gaynor:      My role is, you understand?

ARTHUR:         I do.

CS Gaynor:      I can’t do a police role.

ARTHUR:         I don’t want you to.  All we are interested in is these little girls.

CS Gaynor:      I can’t deal with Family Law Court, in that it is completely different to what Child

Safety, so I’ve got to do my job as the Child Safety Officer.

ARTHUR:         OK.  Now these little girls were asleep in the bedroom and the conversation

became very animated and we asked them to go outside, and they refused on

three occasions and the little children woke up screaming.

HEATHER:       The mother tried to pacify the children and asked them to leave and they

wouldn’t.  They just kept yelling.

ARTHUR:         And then they, while they were there they made a statement that Cassie had

been abused by her elder brother on a daily basis for eight years which is about

2, 900 odd times and that if the girls didn’t go back to Cassie, Michael would have them removed from her.

HEATHER:       To Michael

ARTHUR:         To Michael, they would and they also mentioned about the family violence in the

home against the mother and the children and they said “That’s normal in all

family homes and

HEATHER:       And not to take any notice of it.

ARTHUR:         When I asked about the support for the children from the father they said “They

should never have left home even though they were being abused.  They were

petrified.  So then we went to, that was on the Saturday afternoon.  We went to

The Family Violence Centre on Monday morning.  I took our daughter out and we

took a DVO to cover against the father.

CS Gaynor:      Yep

ARTHUR:         To cover ourselves and the girls against the Heilbronns’ and Michael, Michael

Watter the father.

CS Gaynor:      Um so this is to you the father

ARTHUR:         Yes my wife

CS Gaynor:      The children?

ARTHUR:         Yes, because they were living at our place

CS Gaynor:      Yep

ARTHUR:         When it got to court, the Heilbronns’ disputed and got their name taken off it and

the DVO was on Michael and it involved Isabella, the mother and ourselves.

CS Gaynor:      I’m confused.

ARTHUR:         Well the DVO when it went to court

CS Gaynor:      The actual DVO, so the court’s changed it.

ARTHUR:         The application

CS Gaynor:      Who approved the application?

ARTHUR:         They changed it and took the Heilbronns’ off it.  Left Michael on it, ourselves and

Isabella because she’d been hurt by her father squeezing her.

CS Gaynor:      So who was left on it?  Isabella?

ARTHUR:         Isabella, ourselves

CS Gaynor:      Daughter Cassie?

ARTHUR:         Yep.  Now the next one.  This is the next day, that was on the 8th October 2011.

HEATHER:       14/10/2011 was the day I remember like it was

CS Gaynor:      My job to be child protection, to work on the situation with somebody else needs to be relevant

CS Gaynor:      OK MY information needs to be about the children.

ARTHUR:         Yes, sure. Sure. Then on that afternoon they accused of us setting Michael up.

Have you got it the details?

HEATHER:       That was 30th September 2011

ARTHUR:         30TH September 2011.

CS Gaynor:      Can we go backwards?

ARTHUR:         Yes

HEATHER:       The girls had been saying that things about their father sexually abusing them.

ARTHUR:         So we decided what we best to ask him before, you know.  Let the girls confront

him.  Go on Heather.

HEATHER:       He arrived and my daughter just said “The girls have been saying things and we

want to know, if it’s true with that Bronte and Isabella took themselves outside

and Bronte called out “Now don’t you start getting angry Daddy.”

ARTHUR:         And they did confirm that he had been interfering with them both by the way.

CS Gaynor:      They said that

ARTHUR:         Yes.

CS Gaynor:      What did they say?

ARTHUR:         They said yes in front of their mother, in front of their father and ourselves.

CS Gaynor:      So you still didn’t make a statement did you?

ARTHUR:         They had been asked plenty of times

CS Gaynor:      Did you take this information to the police

ARTHUR:         No.

CS Gaynor:      Why Not?

ARTHUR:         That’s quite obvious.  Well

CS Gaynor:      I can’t override police, that’s a criminal action.

HEATHER:       What part can you be involved in no matter what you are supposed to do is hard.  Yes, that was stupid.  Looking behind we should’ve done this we should’ve done that, we should’ve done something else.  We just don’t know.

CS Gaynor:      Yes Absolutely, Absolutely.  Now have you been involved in any court decisions?

ARTHUR:         Never.

CS Gaynor:      So the children made a statement and mind you the children didn’t make this

statement.  All they said was “yes”.  It was the parent that made the statement.

ARTHUR:         No.  They were asked the question?  “Has Daddy been doing naughty things to you?”

CS Gaynor:      But they didn’t make the statement.

ARTHUR:         No

CS Gaynor:      Because you have already told us, so once again it is a criminal action.  Police need to be involved at the time of that.  Any time that somebody has been sexually harmed or sexual predicated on, it is a criminal offence, if it has been identified by police as criminal offence.  Alright go on.  I just got to make you understand. I’ve got to because I can’t do the criminal actions as well.

ARTHUR:         That’s right.  I don’t expect you to Maam.

CS Gaynor:      Alright?

ARTHUR:         That’s for sure.

CS Gaynor:      I can’t take over the role of police

ARTHUR:         Any how the fact of the matter is that they were asked if Daddy was doing it  and they said “yes” and they ran out to play and as they were leaving Bronte said “Daddy don’t get angry again.

HEATHER:       He is always angry.  That’s all they would call him.  They would call him angry, mean, nasty

ARTHUR:         So then Michael.  I said to Michael “This is pretty serious.”  Michael said “Oh I will ring the police.”  Good.  So he got out his mobile phone he pressed the button and he went straight to some police, he never went through a switchboard.

CS: Gaynor      Yep.

ARTHUR:         And um I don’t know what was said on the phone, of course.  And then we took the girls down the back down the back paddock under the mango trees, we have five acres out there.  We didn’t want them involved in this.

CS Gaynor:      What ward do you live.

ARTHUR:         Rasmussen, 1155 Riverway Drive, two doors up from the Community Centre.

CS: Gaynor:     Yes      Yes      Yes

ARTHUR:         And um, then Michael came down and got them.  He didn’t take them did he?

He didn’t take them with him he decided to leave them there.  I said to Michael.

You know, he has always been made welcome to our place; we have never had a dispute with him.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

ARTHUR:         I said to him “These are serious allegations Michael, it might be better if you leave the kids until you sort this out.” He said “yes OK” and he did, so they stayed there on that occasion and then

HEATHER:       Every time he comes to the place for an access visit Bronte used to, when she knew that Daddy was coming that afternoon, just sit and stare and you couldn’t sort of have contact with her.

CS Gaynor:      How long have the children been living with you?

ARTHUR:         They are happy with us now.  The court gave the children to the father.  The father accused the mother of coaching and also issued a statement saying that the mother had sent the father a text on the Saturday afternoon we are talking about, “Come on over honey, the girls can’t wait to see you.”  Now, that never happened.  We’ve got a transcript from Telstra of all the texts sent from our daughter’s phone on that day and that was not in it, so it didn’t happen but he got custody on part of that.

HEATHER:       So these girls are living with the father that has been abusing them.

CS Gaynor:      How long have the girls been living with the father?

HEATHER:       9th December 2011.  From that moment on they have just seen their mother under supervision and they have just told every supervisor who has been with them telling them Daddy is still doing things to them.

CS Gaynor:      And that information is directly reported when they make those comments.

ARTHUR:         No we haven’t been putting it in because nobody will talk to us.

CS Gaynor:      No, I’m talking about the mother because obviously that is first hand information at time of contact and things like that.

ARTHUR:         The day after.  You’d better get your diary out that day at the markets.  These are pretty relevant.  Comments these little kids have made.

HEATHER:       2 days after the court gave the girls to Michael.

ARTHUR:         Have you got the right date?

HEATHER:       Two days after the court gave the girls to Michael

CS Gaynor:      After the 9th of the 12th?

HEATHER:       Yes, on the 11/12  I was in town and the girls were there at the markets.

ARTHUR:         We are members of Rotary; by the way, we’re volunteers for Rotary and they run the markets so we’re all down with them.

HEATHER:       We were in there, Cassie was tickling the girls and the girls said “Mummy you’ve got to promise not to tickle us, because you are tickling us too much.” And she said “Ah, I can’t promise because you got to keep a promise when you make it.  She said and “Isabella” said “well Daddy doesn’t keep his promise, because he is still touching our privates.” Two days after custody.

CS Gaynor:      What does the mother do about that information?

ARTHUR:         I don’t know.

HEATHER:       She’s lost the children, because they said she was coaching and here they are.  It has come out two days later saying thing to anybody.

ARTHUR:         I have a copy of all the texts. It’s there if you’re interested.  If you’d like to photocopy them.  It’s not relevant.  There’s no text there.

CS Gaynor:      Nothing to do with Child Protection stuff on there.  Anyone making complaints?

ARTHUR:         No.

CS Gaynor:      What about Mum?  Mum’s hearing all this information, or she makes any comments.

ARTHUR:         I know she didn’t report a lot of these disclosures directly after she had the children taken from her because she was accused of coaching and she didn’t know what to do.

CS Gaynor:      She should be providing it to the authorities at the time.

HEATHER:       Yes, we thought that too, because on 24th January.

CS Gaynor:      Is it reported to the courts.

ARTHUR:         We don’t know we haven’t seen it.

CS Gaynor:      That’s up to her and not for you to be involved.

HEATHER:       On the 24th January the last year.

CS Gaynor:      Yep

HEATHER:       The girls were over for an access visit, Michael had appointed himself Supervisor.

CS Gaynor:      With Mum? Access visit?

HEATHER:       Yes, Michael as the supervisor.

CS Gaynor:      Right.  Was it out at your place?

HEATHER:       It was at our place.  Isabella was swimming with the mother and she revealed something to her mother and she dirtied her pants in the pool, so Cassie took the girls up for a shower and when Isabella had got dressed she came running out and jumped up on the lounge and her genital area was red to the point of near bleeding.

ARTHUR:         And I was sitting next to the father and little Isabella was in between us and I said to the father (She didn’t have her pants on).  I said to the father “Michael we’ve got a problem here, look at this” and he said “No” and he got all.  He went all funny didn’t he?

HEATHER:       Yes

ARTHUR:         He got up, walked around and sat down.

HEATHER:       He got up and sat down.

ARTHUR:         And I begged him and the mother which their supposed to do, to take Isabella to the doctor.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

HEATHER:       He flatly refused.

ARTHUR:         He flatly refused.

CS Gaynor:      Do you know if he took the child after the access?

ARTHUR:         No.

HEATHER:       No.  He wouldn’t take them to a doctor.

NEVILLE:          How old are the children?

ARTHUR:         Five.

HEATHER:       They’d just turned five.

CS Gaynor:      Um.  So you don’t know if he took the child to the doctor?

ARTHUR:         No.

HEATHER:       He said they didn’t need to go.

CS Gaynor:      Yep

HEATHER:       Those were his words “she doesn’t need to go.”

ARTHUR:         What date was that?

HEATHER:       24th January.  There’s so many things that the girls have said that are of a sexual nature.  Then my daughter on the 15th January, we all went to the movies together and the girls weren’t happy and so she calmly said to Michael “the girls aren’t happy we need to talk about it.”  She put the girls in the car so it wasn’t as though she was cross and he just started shouting you just need to sort yourself out.  She said “what do you mean?”  “You know what I mean.”  He jumped into the car, slammed the door. He didn’t have his seat belt on.  Backed the car back and just missed another car coming into the parking area.  He’s supposed to have done things.  He’s not interested in the girls’ welfare or anything.

CS Gaynor:      And that’s something Mum needs to take up with the courts as well.  Do they do  mediation, do you know?

ARTHUR:         They did.  They started going to Relationships Australia in 2009.  I think the father went twice and said it wasn’t relevant and refused to return.

CS Gaynor:      And that’s before the court?

ARTHUR:         That’s before they broke up.

HEATHER:       That was two years before they broke up.

CS Gaynor:      It normally happens before they go to court.

HEATHER:       Apparently it was something special, but I don’t really know.

HEATHER:       Alright there is something on the 10th January that Isabella was crying.  She had soiled her pants again in swimmers again, but she wasn’t crying because of what Daddy had done that but he had told them they could have a sleep over and then he said they couldn’t.  You know, they could stay with Mummy for the night and he said they couldn’t.  That was the 10th January.

18th January Bronte told us that Daddy doesn’t like your family Mummy and we shouldn’t either.

CS Gaynor:      So once again, that’s all information that Mum should be providing.

ARTHUR:         But mother wasn’t there

HEATHER:       Oh she was.  She told Mummy in front of us.

ARTHUR:         She said it to me too.

HEATHER;       Well she did, she told her in the front of us.  Then after dinner they played their recorder to sexual songs.

CS Gaynor:      What does that mean?

HEATHER:       Well, their father playing these sexual songs on his phone while the girls were playing their recorder.  They were sexual tunes.

CS Gaynor:      What songs?

HEATHER:       Oh I can’t remember but they were songs the girls shouldn’t even be listening to.  Not five year olds.

ARTHUR:         Our dates might jump around a little bit.  We both keep separate diaries.  On the 12th January um I had the caravan serviced and I backed it into the shed and our pool has a gate there and a gate here and there’s a fence here that’s overlapped and you can walk in there and nobody knows you’re there.  Cassie and the girls were sitting there facing towards this way, towards the house and after I backed the caravan in I could hear them in the pool so I thought I would go around and give them a fright so I came around and I am leaning against the fence and the girls had just come back from Brisbane with their father and this was at 3 o’clock in the afternoon and Cassie said “You look tired Isabella, did you have a sleep before you come over.”  She said “yes, Bronte did but I had to go into Daddy’s bedroom and play with his privates and he played with mine.”  And I just stood there.  I just could not believe what I was hearing.  Then Bronte came over she was on this floaty thing and the mother said to Bronte.  “Bronte did you have a sleep before you came over today?”  Bronte said “Yes, I did but Isabella didn’t she had to go into Daddy’s room”.  That was on the 12th.  And if you care to visit our home it’s well worth a look.  Oops, sorry Nev.  We’ve got a long hallway and the girl’s bedroom was there, the mother’s bedroom was there.  There’s a hallway right up here, the kitchen’s there and there’s a lounge here and my spot’s in that corner and the TVs there and I watch the news.

CS Gaynor:      Yes

ARTHUR:         Anyhow last thing at night it was my job to tell them a story when they went to bed.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

ARTHUR:         And we told them the story, there’s bed there, and bed there and fan there.  They’ve got all their pictures around the wall.  I tell them a story we give them a kiss and walk out and close the door then we would come out here.  Then when Cassie was ready to go to bed she would go to bed.

 

I get up at 5 o’clock every morning and I sit there watching the news and when those little girls woke up they’d open their door and they would peek out and then go back in and in a couple of minutes would come flying down the hallway and snuggle into me one each side and then they’d say “Pop, the boring news and they knew they had five minutes.  I could watch the news for five minutes, then have to go to 502 and that was ha ha.

HEATHER:       No Bronte wanted

ARTHUR:         503

HEATHER:       I can’t remember that one.

CS Gaynor:      That’s children’s shows?

ARTHUR:         Yes, and that’s what they did so they were never alone with their mother while they were there and they claim she was coaching them and they we all spent our time there.

HEATHER:       The mother was supposed to be coaching the children and yet she never, she never would say anything derogatory about the father. Ever, even when she was down about something he said to her.

CS Gaynor:      In all these circumstances were the girls Mum was there.  I would hope and assume that the mother has given notice.

ARTHUR:         I doubt it very much because she already lost the kids and they said if she ever coaches again or puts in false statements.

CS Gaynor:      Why wouldn’t she, if they were not false?

ARTHUR:         Of course they’re not false, I was there.  She’s dead scared. The Heilbronns’ have been

CS Gaynor:      Have you been into the police with her.

ARTHUR:         No I haven’t been to the police.  I’ve been to the police on many occasions.

CS Gaynor:      ?

ARTHUR:         No. No.

CS Gaynor:      You said as well the mother was sitting there with the children.

ARTHUR:         Yep.

HEATHER:       That afternoon when Isabella came and sat on the chair and jumped on the chair without any pants, I went through to the bedroom and Bronte was in the bedroom getting dressed after she had a shower and I just said to her “Um, goodness Isabella’s “tushka” they used to call it “tushka”

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

HEATHER:       looks really sore” and she said “that’s what happens when Daddy rubs us too hard there with his penis”

CS Gaynor:      Do you know if the children have been interviewed by the police?

ARTHUR:         Ah, many times I believe.  The event of 15th January.

HEATHER:       Isabella said that she didn’t want to stay with Daddy anymore as he is just too angry.

ARTHUR:         We all have a breakfast when they come over, Michael and everybody.

CS Gaynor:      So this is when Dad has had the children?

ARTHUR:         Yes, at our place.

GS Gaynor:     Mm Mm.

ARTHUR:         The Aunties and Uncles and cousins was there and it was said in front of Michael that he was too angry all the time.  Michael was furious and became withdrawn.

On the 4th January I offered to discuss Michael’s problems with him, he has severe behavioral problems.  Um, but he never mentioned it, he just ignored it.  On the 19th January 2012 during access the girls again complained of sexual interference by Daddy.  He takes each one of us into the bedroom to play with his penis and he plays with mine..

CS Gaynor:      And who did the children say this to?

ARTHUR:         Me.  I have kept the diaries there.  I’ve typed up to make it easy to.

CS Gaynor:      What date was that?

ARTHUR:         19TH January.

CS Gaynor:      Yep.

ARTHUR:         On the 20th January I phone the Sexual Abuse Hotline in Brisbane, as I didn’t know what to do and I was referred to Relationships Australia.  (Relationships Australia where are we?)  We met with um Matthew Power out there.

CS Gaynor:      Who’s Matthew Power?

ARTHUR:         You needed that?  He’s the, well when I rang the Sexual Abuse Hotline in Brisbane they referred me to Matthew Power in Thuringowa.

CS Gaynor:      That’s OK.  I’m glad you rang Sexual Abuse but I’m still just interested in the girls not yours.

ARTHUR:         No No, it was about the kids.  We reported this sexual abuse to Matthew Power.

CS Gaynor:      And what did he say?

ARTHUR:         I’ve got to notify the authorities and they will be in touch with you but they never ever have.  Now whether he notified the authorities or not I don’t know but he seemed a pretty genuine sort of a fellow and very concerned.

CS Gaynor:      Yes essential.  That was a good response.  Um, what date was that? Did you say that was last year?

ARTHUR:         No No

HEATHER:       20th January

ARTHUR:         Just let me look at the papers so that we get it right.

CS Gaynor:      It was the 19th?

ARTHUR:         Yes. Got it yes.

CS Gaynor:      January?

ARTHUR:         Yes, rang Brisbane for appointment.  That was on the 20th January I rang.

CS Gaynor:      Good.  That’s alright I was looking at the same.

ARTHUR:         I think it was three days later.

CS Gaynor:      Three days later?

ARTHUR:         Yes.

CS Gaynor:      Anything else after that time?

ARTHUR:         Yes.HEATHER:       There’s many times we’ve heard the girls say that Daddy says “Mummy doesn’t want them anymore, Mummy doesn’t love them anymore.”  You know that sort of thing.  They used to say that often.  And on the 3rd of October we were at our daughter’s birthday party.

CS Gaynor:      What date was that?

ARTHUR:         3RD October.

HEATHER:       3rd October last year.

CS Gaynor:      Yes

HEATHER:       Our daughter’s birthday party where Mum was under supervision and were all sitting around the table Isabella said “that Daddy said Bronte is a liar because he plays with our vagina but she’s not a liar, because he does it all the time”.  And then she said.  After a little while she said “Oh Daddy’s going to be very angry now Mummy.”

ARTHUR:         There six at the birthday party.

CS Gaynor:      Is that all?

ARTHUR:         I believe there were five signed statements went into the police and none of us have been interviewed about it.

 

24th January Isabella phoned her Mother and wanted to meet her at the school gate as she had something important to tell her.  Cassie at that stage could not go to the school and did not have Michael’s approval.  Cassie told Isabella she would be seeing her that afternoon.  They met at the Willows where Michael allowed the girls to shop for school bags because the girls didn’t have any.  Heather was at the centre.  Michael went to our place without the girls.  When they arrived they bought dinner which we all shared including Michael.  Cassie took the girls for a swim and Isabella dirtied her pants again.  This has happened several times since she has been in the care of the father and she was toilet trained two years before.

CS Gaynor:      Do you know if the children have been to get any psychological treatment?

HEATHER:       No.

ARTHUR:         Nothing.

CS Gaynor:      Do you know?

CS Gaynor:      He came to my place after the court order

ARTHUR:         No.  I do know.  He came to my place.  No I don’t know it wasn’t as far as I know

HEATHER:                   our place

ARTHUR:         28TH January will answer this question.  Michael phoned to say he wanted to see me.  I invited him over assuming that he wanted to discuss his depression.  He suffers from severe depression.  But to my surprise he arrived with a cold beer and forty odd pages of the order and reasoning of F.M. Coker

CS Gaynor:      28th January

ARTHUR:         January 2012

CS Gaynor:      Now you understand I need to know the role on the stuff about the children?

ARTHUR:         Yes. OK

CS Gaynor:      Everyday is not going to be about the children though.

ARTHUR:         No No.  He stayed for over an hour denigrating all the medical professionals, doctors, psychologists, pediatricians and counselors which the girls had visited under the advice from police and Child Safety.  The visit was clearly an attempt to get me to criticize Justice Coker’s ruling which I refused to do.  We accepted because he made that rule and you have to accept it.  I suggested that he and Cassie should take the girls to a psychologist to help them get over the break up.  Michael looked at me with a look I have never seen anybody with it like it before and said “I can assure you that the girls will not be seeing a psychiatrist.”  He said “I can assure you, psychologist sorry, that Cassie will never ever get those girls again.  I said “Michael” and he just jumped into the car and took off.  Now that was me suggesting to him, I didn’t push the point that the girls should have help and he flatly refused.

HEATHER:       Something 23rd January.  I meant June sorry.

ARTHUR:         Oh no I’ve got some more here.  That night after Michael left the mother got a phone call saying all access had been stopped.  The lot, from everybody, uncles, cousins, aunties, ourselves, he stopped all access and we haven’t had access since, so those little girls have been in a hostage situation since 5th February 2012.  It’s over twelve months now.  Heather and I went round on the Sunday morning, the morning after for an access visit and he let us in. OK and the girls were hiding in the bedroom, we went and found them and brought them out and they were very happy to see us.

CS Gaynor:      I thought you hadn’t seen them?

ARTHUR:         No this is the day after he stopped access

CS Gaynor:      Yes

ARTHUR:         he stopped access to the girls.

CS Gaynor:      Yes

ARTHUR:         It was on 5th February 2012.

HEATHER:       5th February

ARTHUR:         Sorry, 5TH February, 2012.  So we went around Sunday morning, Heather was inside and he called me outside and started asking questions and I made some statements to which I were truthful.  One was that I said that with the Child Sexual Abuse it’s very hard to know what’s happening and we’ve been doing research and I said its only four or five per cent of four and five years old who report these findings so he put that into an affidavit against me.  So that’s where I got the information from.  He ticked the boxes of what’s relevant and all those things are there if you want it.  That’s in relation to the girls.  (Handing over an information sheet from Bravehearts).

CS Gaynor:      Yes Yes that’s your interpretation of what’s wrong with them, is that right?

ARTHUR:         Yes. But that’s what’s happening to the girls with their behavior.

CS Gaynor:      Right.

ARTHUR:         And we haven’t had access since and ah, as I say we went to the police on so many occasions.

CS Gaynor:      Nothing else should be relevant from here because you haven’t had any other access with the children.

HEATHER:       They’ve been under supervision, court approved supervisors.

CS Gaynor:      Court ordered supervisors.

HEATHER:       Yes. The court ordered supervisors.  Yes, from I think it was about the 3rd or it might have been 1st April, so they have only ever been supervised.

CS Gaynor:      Who’s that with? Family?

ARTHUR:         Yes, court ordered yes.  The court approved supervisors.

CS Gaynor:      Court ordered to extended family is that right?

ARTHUR:         No no

CS Gaynor:      Their Mum?

HEATHER:       Their Mum, with the supervisors they might come over to our place, was coming over to our place occasionally.

CS Gaynor:      Yes

HEATHER:       Not all the time.  Maybe we would go over there to their place if, like Cassie’s place.

CS Gaynor:      Sorry, was that from 3rd or 4th.

HEATHER:       Yes

CS Gaynor:      Sorry, go on

HEATHER:       So we’ve sort of seen them but it’s always been under supervision

CPS Gaynor:    Yes

HEATHER:       Then on the 9th October it was just all stopped again and Cassie only sees the girls.  No phone contact.  Nothing.  Only sees the girls at Relationship Australia for an hour and three quarters every Sunday afternoon.

ARTHUR:         I’ve got a couple of other things here.  2nd April 2012 we went to Ross River Park with them and the supervisor for a picnic.  I took the pups down for the kids to play with and Bronte said “Pop?” (Hang on while I get this).  Bronte asked “Can we come home with you and Nan, Pop.”  I said “Dad will bring you back one day”.  Bronte replied “We don’t want to live with Daddy, he makes us cry all the time and he’s always angry.”  I replied “He would only get angry when you are naughty.”  Bronte said “No Pop, he’s angry all the time and does naughty things to us.”  That was on ah, 2nd April 2012 in front of the supervisors.

CS: Gaynor:     Mm

HEATHER:       The supervision must have started on the 1st April.

ARTHUR:         From the 10th of June we had a trampoline and swings at home we brought the girls and Cassie moved into a home in (the address, what was the number?)

HEATHER:       It’s Eyre Street.

ARTHUR:         Eyre Street, North Ward.  I loaded these swings up and took them around and put them in the back yard.

GS Gaynor:     Mm

ARTHUR:         And Rae Greaves was the supervisor that day.  I don’t know whether you know Rae or not, um, but she was the supervisor.  I relocated the swings and the trampoline from our home to Cassie’s home.  When I was leaving I said “Have fun on your swings and trampoline.”  Bronte whispered which was said in front of Rae Greaves.  Bronte and Isabella said “that Daddy had told them they would never be allowed to stay at Mummy’s house again.”  I said “That may change, he may change his mind.”  They then said “They have to go to Aunty Sheree’s house tomorrow.” the 11th, yes school holidays because “Daddy said Mummy didn’t want us anymore.”  I assured them, this is in front of their mother and the supervisor; I assured them that Mummy, Poppy, Nana and all our friends and relatives wanted to see them as much as we could.

HEATHER:       On 24th, 23rd June I was at the school being a teach aid.

CS Gaynor:      Any circumstances where the supervisors think the children are at risk are certainly advised of all the services.

HEATHER:       Yes, well I

ARTHUR:         We can’t be sure, no.

CS Gaynor:      Yes, go on.

HEATHER:       I was ready to go and I said to both girls to say goodbye and Isabella stood up and she goes.  She said “Tomorrow’s mummy day, and then the next day because tomorrow was Friday, Saturday they used to have access with Relationships Australia and then all day Sunday.  Tomorrow’s mummy day, the next day is mummy day.  Then she said “The only good days are mummy days.”

CS Gaynor:      What date is that?

ARTHUR:         You’ve got no idea what is happening with these kids.  (Heather was crying).

CS Gaynor:      It’s alright do you need time out?

HEATHER:       23RD June

ARTHUR:         The things they are saying, you couldn’t coach them if they had not experienced what they’re saying.  They not have the faintest idea.

On 8th March we visited Ewan Jones office regards to disclosures and been unable to talk to anybody.

On 12th March Matthew from Mr. Jones office rang and advised us to contact Stephen Cannon senior intake Officer at Child Safety on 49777900

On 15th March we rang Mr. Cannon’s office and we were assured that we would be contacted for an appointment.  It never ever happened.  Never.

CS Gaynor:      You do know now that you can make contact with us.  Where intake see it you don’t need that.

HEATHER:       No.

ARTHUR:         That’s your number there.

CS Gaynor:      Yes, you need to make contact me on the 1300 number and provide us with

Information any time.  And if you need to walk in for advice and information I’m happy to take that, as long as it is current information because historically information we have already been provided with and then we’ve got all those so um any new information we will take.

NEVILLE:          They’ve already been told the information you have just said.  I’m pretty

conversant.

CS Gaynor:      I’ve got to converse.

NEVILLE:          Yes, I have been with family relationships for forty years.

CS Gaynor:      Then you would know, you would know that anybody you have spoken to is

Provided with same.  We would like to say we don’t tape the information we don’t, if they pull in another person we will always say you need to advise this information.  As a justice body that is what we are required to do and we will always.

ARTHUR:         What date were we up to?

CS Gaynor:      Um lots of dates backwards and forwards. 23/06/2012 and that’s being

Supervised from 15th.

HEATHER:       It was too close 6/09, 11th

CS Gaynor:      1st November?

HEATHER:       Yes

CS Gaynor:      In context.

ARTHUR:         The father prevented the mother from going to the school, she was teacher’s

Aide as other parents, one day a week I think it was.

HEATHER:       That’s after 9th October.

ARTHUR:         And she was in the classroom with all the other mothers and the father claimed

That the mother was coaching the girls during the, you know this time in the class where the teacher is supervising and stopped her from going and then they made her go at 9.10am into class after the school had started and he still claimed they were coaching inside the class room and he stopped that.  And then my wife said well these little girls have to have contact with family so she got in touch with the Headmaster and said “Well look these girls blaa blaa blaa can I come and take over the place so the girls can have contact with the children and the father would not allow it.  Is that normal?

CPS Gaynor:    What, I think that it would’ve been up to the school.  Education Queensland run

their own policy so it would be up to them if they were willing to let it happen.

ARTHUR:         We got a letter from him

HEATHER:       It just said we could in another class.

ARTHUR:         The Headmaster he could’ve.

CS Gaynor:      An aide teacher.

HEATHER:       The class has a teacher’s aide.

CS Gaynor:      So he just goes up as a parent.  I think the children’s education is done under

their own policy so it’s obviously they made the decision under their own policy.

ARTHUR:         No. I don’t think so; we had a letter from them that said “The school does not

have a problem with the grandmother attending.

HEATHER:       But he’s the one that stopped it.

CS Gaynor:      Well, as far as I know, because you weren’t in the class with just them either.

ARTHUR:         With the mother, yes

HEATHER:       We just sit around and talk to the children and then they change.

CS Gaynor:      I would assume they would not make indication on their own ground.

ARTHUR:         All we wanted to do was keep contact with the kids.

HEATHER:       It was nothing like that.

CS Gaynor:      They would have to have some sort of order of some kind.  But understand we’re

State, we’re not Federal so I don’t know the Federal court rules in things like

That.   They would have to get a court rule something in policy.

ARTHUR:         This is a statement I put into the police.  It is about a disclosure.  Do you want me to read it out?  They’ve never been back to me.  It’s about the girls.

CS Gaynor:      But you have given them your information, we can’t keep on getting information like that because that is criminal.  We work on risk, we don’t work on that.

ARTHUR:         I was riding up the road.  I ride the push bike every morning.  Up along Riverway Drive and I was coming back and here was with the car with the two little girls in the back of it.  It was locked up in full sunshine and the father was in shopping and I tried to get in the car and I couldn’t, it was locked.  The motor wasn’t running.

CS Gaynor:      These were your little girls?

ARTHUR:         Yes.  No not that one, that is just an example.  So I waited there until the father

came out and he was furious.  He um

CS Gaynor:      What was the time frame?

HEATHER:       We don’t really know.

ARTHUR:         Well, it was.

HEATHER:       He rode up and they were in the car.

CS Gaynor:      When was that?

ARTHUR:         That was on 15th October, 2012. Oh no no no sorry about that I’ve got the wrong

one there.  That was the one you didn’t want to hear about.

HEATHER:       That was after that.

CS Gaynor:      If the police have every criminal information in relation about the children we will get it.

ARTHUR:         You haven’t got it.

(There was laughter about something I couldn’t understand what was said)

 ARTHUR:         OK, Heather was um, went up to the chemist for a prescription and she arrives

up there and there’s the little girls in the car again, full sunshine and didn’t know

where Michael was, so Heather went into the chemist shop and Michael’s in the

Chemist shop.  So, she said “Do you mind if I say hello to the girls?” in front of

everybody in the chemist shop. He said “yer, yer alright.”  So she went out and

she’s talking to the girls.

HEATHER:       Now, I like to take over from there because I was talking to the girls in the back

of the car.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

HEATHER:       I’m this way and the girls there and the door’s open behind me and we were

chatting away and they were very excited to see me and Isabella was talking and she writes a diary.  She’s a very clever little girl and she’s telling me all about her tummy and eye drops and she couldn’t spell it, I can’t remember it now.  That’s

right, she had just drawn a drop, eye drop and we were chatting away and the next thing they both stopped and they just go like this. (indicating that the girls were looking up and then tooking into their laps).

CS Gaynor:    Mm Mm

HEATHER:      And I knew Michael was standing behind me and they were scared to talk to me.

ARTHUR:       When I was up at the bakery at the shopping centre and they were locked in the

car and I tried to get in there.

HEATHER:      They were laughing and carrying on.

ARTHUR:       When he came out he just flew into a rage, opened the door and slammed it and he wouldn’t even allow me to say hello.  That’s not good.

HEATHER:      He’s got them like.  He’s got nobody he has to answer to.

CS Gaynor:    Well I guess  the children are at a questionable age, six.

HEATHER:      Yes.  Several months ago.  I mean they both go to school.

CS Gaynor:    So you’ve got either of the children at school, but the schools have the policies

around what is appropriate and what’s not appropriate about that so they

certainly look for any change of behaviors and things like that.  Certainly they

have that policy there.  It’s not under our policy, but they certainly have a policy

that making sure they adhere.

HEATHER:      I feel they like school, they really love it because they’re away from the angry

Daddy.

ARTHUR:       The father has serious behavior and mental problems and I have a letter here

from his grandmother she wrote me if you wish to read it.

HEATHER:      This is back in.

CS Gaynor:    Is this a medical person or somebody just saying something.

ARTHUR:       His grandmother telling me.

CS Gaynor:    Why is his grandmother writing?

ARTHUR;       Because she is concerned about him if you read it and every week after they got

married for months his mother would ring me and say “Please, look after

Michael.  Could you get him to contact me?”  And I would

CS Gaynor:    Patricia

ARTHUR:       That’s his mother.  His mother’s a psychopath, schizophrenically I believe.

HEATHER:      Goodness knows, his father was habitual.

CS Gaynor:    So how does that make him a schizophrenic?

ARTHUR:       I didn’t suggest that no.  I just asked you to read the letter.

CS Gaynor:    But you said he’s got mental health issues.

ARTHUR:       Well, he has

HEATHER:      Because he complains all the time about having depression and other stuff he

brings up.  In fairness to that because he was in a bad accident at six.

CS Gaynor:    So this is about he and his Mum.

HEATHER:      It’s mainly about his health.

ARTHUR:       Mainly about his behavior, deserting his mother.

HEATHER:      And how could he treat his mother this way.

ARTHUR:       She said “That the worst mother in the world deserves better treatment than he

gives her.  And these are things I have observed.  I knew there were problems in

the family Christmas 2010 because they came around and opened up the

presents and there was just silence.  The girls were very jaded.  They opened

their presents, there was no excitement and when they left he went and jumped

in the car and drove off.  And I said to my daughter “Is everything alright.”  Her

eyes just filled with tears and she said “Yes”

On the 20th November

CS Gaynor:      Going backwards

ARTHUR:         No, we’re on Michael’s depression and his disclosures he has given me.

HEATHER:       He is aware and knows about them.

ARTHUR:         Yes he does.

CS Gaynor:      I want to know about the children, I don’t want to know about him.  I wantabout the girls.

ARTHUR:         Well, the risk, if you listen, to the girls could be great. Ah. Beg your pardon?

On 20/11 we were supervising, and this was before he got the children,

He got them on 7th December.  So it was before he got the children

through the court.  It was on 20th November, it was a Sunday and we

went down to the beach and we let them run free which we stayed

right away from them.

CS Gaynor:      When was this?

ARTHUR:         20/11

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

ARTHUR:         And then we went back to Lolly Pops at the Main Central and we sat well away

Having a cup of coffee and they were playing and they came over and sat down.

I noticed Michael was crying, and he was white and shaky and the girls just

closed down completely.  I never said anything, I just watched and about ten

minutes later things seem to smooth out and ah I just never said a word to him.

On 4th January it was the girls’ birthday party with approximately 40 children

there and adults.  The father didn’t get involved at all in conversation with the

guests or take part in any proceedings of the party what so ever.  He went inside

after the barbecue was cooked and appeared pale, trembling and was crying and

looked and he was distant, His manner was very distant.  When I asked him

what the matter was he said he was suffering from severe depression and had

done for years.  He would not eat.  After about twenty minutes, because I sat

there and talked to him, Michael settled down and he did come out and eat

some of the food, but he still did not mix with the guests or any of the friends.

CS Gaynor:      May I ask you something?  Did the Mum make any comment about this in the

Court orders?

ARTHUR:         I have no idea, I haven’t seen them.

HEATHER:       I don’t know.  I don’t know what’s in her affidavits or anything.

CS Gaynor:      So you don’t know anything about that.  But she lives in the home with you and

You don’t know anything about that.

ARTHUR:         She moved house.  She was in our home at the time, yes.

CS Gaynor:      And you don’t know if she has made any comments about it.

ARTHUR:         The solicitor told us that we have to be independent of each other, that we can’t

collude.

On 8th January access visit by Mick and the girls, he stayed very quiet and

strained distant.  He accepted a soft drink but we could not connect with him at

all.

On 10th January during another visit Michael again he said he suffered from

depression and has done for years.  I offered my sympathy and told Mick I was

available any time he wanted to come to talk to me, if he wanted to talk about

his problems.  He said “Thank you that would be good.”

On 17th January Mick again was very distant but accepted a glass of wine after

Dinner and left with a blank look on his face without saying “goodbye” or “thank

You”.

22nd January Mick very jubilant and bragging about how good it was to be single

again and how much he was enjoying life at present.  This

behavior seemed to be in stark contradiction to how he normally behaved.

We’ve never seen him on such a high with his emotions ever.  The twins barely

spoke to him during the visit and were overly subdued.

24th January Mick visited with the girls and very happy until Isabella had a

shower after swimming.  I think you’ve got some of this.  She had no pants on

yer. Doesn’t need to go to a doctor, his attitude changed and the next thing he

became very aggressive, irritated and edgy.  He could not keep still, kept on

getting up until he left.

28th January, we’ve discussed this.  When Mick turned up I thought he was going

to talk about his depression, but he didn’t.  I was standing at the front gate with

Mr. Manser on the, this is 3rd October 2012

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

ARTHUR:         I was standing at the front gate with Mr. Manser who’s a sheet metal worker

And Michael drove past with the girls on the way to school.  He gave me the

wave and speeded up in front of the girls.

These are a few of the worst ones.

HEATHER:       I might add that he comes out (2010) especially when we have friends there,

2011 we had friends there but I also had the girls while he was there.  Michael

didn’t ever take notice of the girls while they opened up their Christmas

presents.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

HEATHER:       More significantly the girls never went near him and even when he was

supervised.  He used to come to our place he would walk in with his phone,

either playing on his phone or talking on his phone. Um he’d take a beer out of

the fridge.

ARTHUR:         He wouldn’t ask he would just go and get it

HEATHER:       If it wasn’t to his liking he would just complain about the brand of the beer, go

and sit in a corner in front of the TV.

ARTHUR:         And to this day we’ve never been rude to him, ever.  We wanted the thing to

survive.

CS Gaynor:      Alright, is that it?

ARTHUR:         Yes basically.  I’ve got a couple of questions.  You say you don’t give out

Information and I probably accept, I will accept.  Did the Heilbronns’ contact

Child Safety.

HEATHER:       She can’t tell us anything.

CS Gaynor:      If the Heilbronns’ asked me if you contacted us

ARTHUR:         I know mm.

CS Gaynor:      All information is confidential, so any information that we have is certainly not

Information for us to give.  Alright.

HEATHER:       See they threatened, the last thing they said as they walked out the door the

day they were at our place on 8th October, we’re going to Authorities and

you’re going to lose those children within a week.

ARTHUR:         I tell you what he wasn’t far wrong.

HEATHER:       Because she lost them.

CS Gaynor: Now with regard the information you gave me, like I said, you can contact

Records of Information used to be Freedom of Information is called the Record

of Information now.  Um I think they would have a web site.  It has to be

relevant for them to provide you with that information.  The information that

you’re involved in.  You’ve got that.  It’s up to you if you want to get information

around.

ARTHUR:         Not really I just want these little girls looked after.  Why are they still with him?

I even went as far as I could.  You know I went and saw Ewan Jones, got onto

Matthew Lupi and never got a reply, so I wrote to the Commissioner for

Children in Brisbane.  Once again, they’ve done nothing.

CS Gaynor:      You don’t know.

ARTHUR:         Well, they’re still there.

CS Gaynor:      I mean, you don’t know what information has been provided and we don’t

accept that because the Agency doesn’t do that, because that would mean

identifying um information that has been received so we don’t get any of

that.  So, all I can say to you is “all information we get is obvious on the system

it just stays on our system; we don’t do family law so the Federal system is

something that is not us.  We work on the risk of the children.  Federal work on

the court system.  We don’t have any involvement, unless somebody wants to

go further and we become involved in investigations and things like that.  Now

that’s something that’s done through the State and once again its around policy

and procedure so if anything um we have to um go by the information

received.  We make our decisions according to our policy.

ARTHUR:         So no doubt, as Child Safety we’ve given you the date.

CS Gaynor:      Yes

ARTHUR:         The children were with the father between.  The father has been given too

much time if you consider our statements false.

CS Gaynor:      No we don’t consider anybody’s statement is false.  Everybody from community

members to services, organizations, departments provides us with information.

We take it as right.  We don’t consider information as false.

ARTHUR:         You see the father’s claimed the mother has mental problems.

CS Gaynor:      Yes, but what I’m saying to you is we don’t work on, we don’t work the Federal

System, certainly State Government.  The courts they’ve got all this information

already.

ARTHUR:         Well, they haven’t because nobody’s got it.  Only you have got it now.

CS Gaynor:      But you don’t know what has.

ARTHUR:         Well there’s things in here that Mum hasn’t heard.

HEATHER:       Well Mum most probably given them a whole lot, because the girls would say

lots of stuff in front of supervisors.

ARTHUR:         Phone calls

HEATHER:       Yes, we don’t know about.

CS Gaynor:      A lot of stuff that has been said in front of Mum and a lot of stuff said in front

of Supervisors and things like that as well.

ARTHUR:         There’s a lot of stuff in here that’s full of it of phone calls and things like that.

The girls rang up one afternoon, they start complaining.  Phone call ends

Immediately.  There’s no phone contact now.  They are not allowed to ring us up.

Nothing.

CS Gaynor:      Yes and I guess Mum as the other guardian of the children.

HEATHER:       She’s not.  She’s doesn’t have any say.

ARTHUR:         He’s the sole parent at the moment.

CS Gaynor:      OK so that’s the court ruling is it?

ARTHUR:         Yes.

CS Gaynor:      So you know what the court ruling is?

ARTHUR:         Well, yes it was on 7th December.

HEATHER:       9th December Arth.

CS Gaynor:      He’s the sole guardian of the children?

ARTHUR:         Yes.  That was F.M. Coker and we go back to court on 22nd January and in his

Judgment he said this is for a very short period, didn’t he?

HEATHER:       No, because in February it was supposed to go back.

ARTHUR:         Well February.  7th December to February.  It was about eight weeks.  No,

Eleven, it wasn’t twelve and it was supposed to go back and be resolved then.

CS Gaynor:      Yep

ARTHUR:         And, of course, the normal thing it has been adjourned right through.

HEATHER:       Yes, it was supposed to with the order that both parents discuss the welfare of

the children.  That’s something that has not been adhered to.

CS Gaynor:      She’s not privy to the information In that.  I mean, both parents have to take their information to court, they can’t just front up without.  Don’t quote me I’ve no idea why it’s been put off until alater date, unless somebody is saying I’ve got some more information. You’ve got to get some more information, more information.  That’s something, if anyone has got relevant information that it’s in court.

ARTHUR:         That’s all very well but I think in November there was no information could go

Into the court after 20th November last year from memory.  Something like that.

CS Gaynor:      Well, as far as I know, all I know is both parents should have legal

Representation.

ARTHUR:         Well, the father is on $85.000 a year.  He got legal aid.  The mother’s bankrupt

and she can’t get it.

CS Gaynor:      Well, I don’t know much about that.  I honestly don’t know how they do that.

They have their.  As far as I know Legal Aid have a set um rate as to what they

get involved.  I don’t know about Mum why she doesn’t get it.

ARTHUR:         They wouldn’t give it to her.

HEATHER:       I think they wouldn’t give it to her in the first place because she was living with

us.

CS Gaynor:      Right.  So if there’s any adjournments and things like that she’s got legal

representation, it maybe um, or maybe she should be going back and seeking

legal and seeking legal aid now.

ARTHUR:         She can reapply can she?

CS Gaynor:      Well, I don’t know.  She’s in a different circumstances maybe she can.  She

certainly needs to be conversant.

HEATHER:       At the moment she cannot.

CS Gaynor:      Like I said I’m not sure.

ARTHUR:         What’s you name please?

CS Gaynor:      Gaynor.

ARTHUR:         Gaynor?

CPIU Gaynor:  G A Y N O R.

ARTHUR:         Ms  Miss  Mrs.

CS Gaynor:      Ms.  (Why was Ms Williams not given to us).

(There was general chit chat)

 ARTHUR:         Thanks for your time.  That’s full of stuff that we haven’t discussed in relation to

the kids if you want it.  You’re welcome to it.

CS Gaynor:      Well, I think you have given me a good grounding on what’s there.  It will

certainly be documented.  Now use your other processes you’ve got for any

other information.  Alright?  Don’t feel you have to come in here to make

appointments or anything.  You can call any time.  Everybody here is an

Intake officer.  If you get one of the other regional intakes, because we’re busy and it overflows everybody in the main office is an intake officer, alright?

ARTHUR:         OK, we’ll come in certainly.  Thank you for the advice.  As far as

CS Gaynor:      You call us, just give us call and that saves you distress.

ARTHUR:         As far as the police goes.

CS Gaynor:      That’s another matter, not us

ARTHUR:         Hang on, as I say I was speaking with the Detective Senior Detective Sergeant

David Miles?

CS Gaynor:      Yes

ARTHUR:         And he will not talk to us, he said the case is finished.

CS Gaynor:      He’s the big boss.

ARTHUR:         Why won’t they interview us?

NEVILLE:          If they suspect the children are in danger they should do something about it.

CS Gaynor:      Well

(Once again there was a chit chat between CPIU, Neville and Arthur)

 CS Gaynor:      Do you know how many times they have interviewed the children?  I’ve got

No idea and I’ve been involved or what the information has been taken and

what they’ve done.  I guess you don’t know what’s been going on with

interviews and anything like that, but all I can say is that they’ve certainly,

they’re certainly their own um they’re totally separate to us because of their.

ARTHUR:         What about all these statements that are going in and they don’t even bother

to ring up and confirm.  On 2011 last year the cricket.

HEATHER:       Oh, the 26th January last year.

ARTHUR:         They went down to the cricket and Michael was playing cricket, that’s the father

and the girls were there with, I don’t know the girl’s name even, met her once

only, it wouldn’t know her if I fell over her.

HEATHER:       She was a supervisor.  She was there with Cass.

ARTHUR:         Anyhow, it doesn’t matter.  These kids are playing and she’s got twins too and

they’re playing and the two girls opened up and started telling tem what Daddy

does do them.

HEATHER:       And this girl was a third year, she’s a um, what do you call it, an older, she’s in

Her early 30’s I think

CS Gaynor:      Right

HEATHER:       Third year medical student.

CS Gaynor:      Oh, I see

ARTHUR:         So she rang Child Safety, she rang the CPIU and they have never acknowledge

receiving it.

NEVILLE:          Something wrong.

ARTHUR:         Something wrong.

CS Gaynor:      You don’t know.

ARTHUR:         She said that she has never been contacted.

CS Gaynor:      OK

ARTHUR:         Never ever.

CS Gaynor:      Alright I can’t give you any feedback on that I’m sorry.  We don’t interact

when it comes to information.

ARTHUR;         No I understand that, but she reported here and she reported it to police

and never had a response from either party.

CS Gaynor:      Yep.  We don’t provide feedback.

ARTHUR:         Don’t you question them and make you know, get details.

CS Gaynor:      We don’t provide feedback.  If we’ve got enough information we don’t provide any feedback at all.  Like I said becomes confidential.  That’s as far as we can go.  The Queensland policy is that any interview is that.

ARTHUR:         I thought that what’s in the best interest for the children.

CS Gaynor;      It’s absolutely is in the best interest for the children and we make sure it is.

ARTHUR:         Thank you.

HEATHER:       Thank you very much for your time.

CS Gaynor:      Tut ta.

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More evidence of ineptitude , lack of caring and NIL professionalism by the system !

Lupi – Saunders – Gaynor , your department and the three of you are an absolute disgrace !!

                     PUBLICLY RE INVESTIGATE THIS MATTER !!

Ms Kirsty Saunders

Senior Advisor (Client Relations – Child Safety)

61 Sturt Street

Townsville   Qld   4810

 

 

Dear Ms Saunders,

We would like to bring to your notice the disappointment of the negative way in which an interview was conducted by the department’s interviewing person who induced herself as (Ms) Gaynor of the Department of Child Safety, on the morning of Monday 4th March 2013 at about 9.20am

It would appear that she was not interested in what was in the best interests of the children, namely our grandchildren, Isabella & Bronte Watter. We gave up in the end as we felt that we were speaking with someone who had preconceived ideas and was therefore not interested in the revelations of the sexual molestation by the father, Michael Watter, to the girls, with the information that was put before her.

Mr Neville Abbey of N.Q. Grandparents in Need of Support Council was horrified at the department’s aggressive interview tactics. Mr Abbey was not permitted to speak or enter into the conversation and came away, as we also did, very disillusioned with the system.

I invite you to listen to the first 20mins of the interviewing persons recorded interview with ourselves. We would appreciate your comments.

Our reports of direct sexual abuse made by these little girls against their father to the very people they love and trust appear to be of no relevance, with the Department saying that these were criminal matters and that we should be speaking with police about them.

You will note by viewing the information which we had already presented to the Department, through Lana, that we have been trying to contact your Department and the police for 12mths without success. Also you will note that the transcript of our conversation with the CPIU and their refusal to interview us.

The Department refused to give us written acknowledgement of our concerns and would not confirm that they would act on the limited information which we supplied to the Department.

Both of us have separate diaries with accurate accounts of events which have occurred over the past eighteen months.

The Department was handed a completed indicator of child sexual assault form. (Ms) Gaynor glanced at it and handed it back with the comment, ‘That’s your opinion, isn’t it?’   Well! It wasn’t our opinion. It is the facts.

The Department officer was also handed a letter from Mr Watter’s grandmother confirming that Mr Watter has severe behavioural problems. This also was glanced at then handed back.

We also wanted to report that we feel that these children have had their basic human rights taken away from them and feel that they are in a hostage situation as Bronte and Isabellas’ father has ceased all contact with the mother’s side of the family including ourselves, their aunties, uncles, cousins and friends. To stop all contact with the very people that these little girls loved and trusted is clearly not in the best interest of the children. The father, Michael Watter, has also stopped all contact at the Hermit Park State School where the girls attend school. To whom are these children now able to confide in, now that all the people that they love and trust have been taken away from them?

These breaches of our grandchildren’s rights have been in place since 28th January 2012 and more so since 9th October 2012 when even phone access with the girls was terminated.

Please advise to whom we report these abuses, as soon as possible.

We look forward to an early response to our concerns.

We also request an acknowledgement of this e-mail.

Yours faithfully

Heather & Arthur Doubleday

 

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Sharing the sexual abuse of your children with your friends ! You DISGUSTING animal ! #Leak56 #WikiDetectives

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Another analysis from another professional person ! They keep coming and yet the authorities continue to sweep all the evidence under the carpet ! WHY do you think this is ? Disclosures of sexual abuse to their mother , their grandparents , grandparent’s friends , a doctor ( GP ) , a child psychologist and all this before further disclosures to all and sundry and yet no re investigation ! Cassie’s natural reaction was HORROR ! Records of these disclosures made in great detail and yet NEVER investigated ! Medical problems associated with sexual abuse – mouth ulcers , thrush and rectal bleeding .

The sickening aspect of this over and above the sexual abuse was the further disclosure that the father ( we use the word loosely , as what “ father “ would do this to their own children ? ) has punished his daughters for disclosing the sexual abuse !

Matthew Lupi, Regional Director of Communities, Child Safety and Disability Services — you are an ABSOLUTE DISGRACE !!

Note the comments by Dr.Wendy Foote !

Note police officer David Miles comments – David Miles you are also a disgrace !

NOTE the disclosures that “ DADDY ‘S FRIENDS WERE ABUSING THEM “ – don’t worry FRIENDS – your time is coming !! Disclosure to this effect made by both of the little girls . No wonder the father doesn’t want to share our links to his page . You DISGUSTING animal !

Note the child’s pleading “ MUMMY HELP ME PLEASE “ . Desperate and continued pleas for help !

All those of you with blinkers on should be ashamed of and disgusted with yourselves !

Please help us to bring this mother and her children out of hiding so that they may receive the specialist counselling that will so desperately be needed .

YOU the authorities are to blame for this ! WAKE UP !

                                  PUBLICLY RE INVESTIGATE !!

Why I think the Child Safety Services should give serious consideration to the evidence reported in this document re the child protection risks of returning the 7 year old Watter twins (B and I: dob 4th

Jan 2007) to their father’s care if/when they are found.

 

Dr Rosamund Thorpe

President Family Inclusion Network Townsville

29th May 2014 

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 My involvement and contact with Cassie Watter between January 2012 and April 2014 .

I first met the Watter twins’ mother, Cassie (Catherine) Watter, on 16th February 2012. She had been referred to FIN Townsville by the NQDVRS (North Queensland Domestic Violence Resource Service), as there had been Child Safety involvement prior to a Family Court interim judgement on 9th December 2011.

During 2012 I met Cassie every two or three weeks and very gradually learned that:

 

  1. She and one of the twins (I) had been granted a 12 month Protection Order in October 2011. Cassie and her husband (the twins’ father) had attended counselling in relation to domestic violence with Matthew Power at Relationships Australia in 2009, when the twins were aged 2
  2. Cassie and the twins had left the family home on 21st August 2011 (when the twins were 4½ years), when Cassie grew concerned that the domestic violence which she had experienced was impacting adversely on the twins (“this is a scary house” one of the twins had said, according to Cassie). The tipping point came when Cassie had formed the opinion (from observation of the father’s and the twins’ behaviour) that the twins’ father might be sexually attracted to and possibly abusing the twins.
  3. Cassie and the twins moved to live at Cassie’s parents’ home during which time the twins made several disclosures of sexual abuse to (1) their mother in the hearing of their grandparents and also their grandparents’ friends; (2) directly to each of the grandparents; (3) a GP; (4) a child psychologist to whom Cassie had taken the twins as she wanted someone independent to assess whether they had actually experienced sexual abuse. At this time Cassie had been incredulous about such an horrific reality. [Records of these disclosures have been provided by the grandparents and their friends, and by the Child Psychologist, Carolyn Seri]
  4. As a result of the disclosures outlined above, Cassie overcame her incredulity and made several reports to Child Safety. These were investigated by CSO Merle McNulty at the Thuringowa office who initially had seemed to Cassie to be sympathetic to her concerns. Merle McNulty abruptly seemed to change her attitude (sometime in October 2011, I think) after Cassie had told her that she and her parents were going to confront the twins’ father with the disclosures when he next called to collect them for a contact visit. [The question put to Mr Watter was: “The girls say you’re interfering with them. Is this correct?”] The reason for Merle McNulty’s change of mind bewildered Cassie for many months. However, enlightenment came over a year later when Cassie read in the Police records, subpoenaed by the Family Court, that on a phone call to the Police in (I think) October or November 2011, Merle McNulty had reported Cassie had said she was going to “set up” the father. This was not an accurate reporting of Cassie’s statement that she was going to “confront” the girl’s father with what the girls were disclosing. Rather, it is a highly misleading paraphrase, implying the situation was a mischievous contrivance based on false allegations. From this point on Merle McNulty appeared to Cassie to consider that her reported disclosures of CSA (child sexual abuse) by the twins were false, and that Cassie was coaching the twins to make disclosures. I understand, however, that no clear firm evidence of coaching was ever given to Cassie or to the Family Court
  1. On 9th December 2011 an interim order was made by the Family Court, granting full custody to the father, and only supervised access to Cassie. This order was based only on written Affidavits with no opportunity for testing through cross examination of the claims made. In the father’s Affidavit he had made what Cassie asserts were untrue and grossly exaggerated statements about her childhood and her adult mental health. In consequence, it would appear, the Family Court considered Cassie needed to access psychiatric treatment before the court could consider shared custody of the twins.

Everything in points 1 to 6 above (except the last 2 sentences of point 4 – BOLD) had happened prior to my meeting Cassie who, when I met her, was extremely distressed. This distress was not only on account of losing custody of the twins, but also a result of continuing to hear the twins make further disclosures about sexual abuse by their father during supervised contact visits with her.

Throughout 2012 (twins aged 5 years) a large number of written reports (over 40, I think) were made by people supervising Cassie’s contact with the twins. These, I understand, were submitted to the Family Court appointed Independent Children’s Lawyer (ICL) for the twins (Joanne Meade) and (I think) to Child Safety. Every Supervisor’s Report was forwarded by the ICL to the father and the twins began to disclose to Cassie that, as well as experiencing CSA by their father, he also had punished them for telling their mother about the CSA on contact visits.

With my support as president of FIN, Cassie sought an appointment with Matthew Lupi, Regional Director of Communities, Child Safety and Disability Services, to request a review of the decisions made by Merle McNulty et al. At a meeting with him on Thursday 9th  August 2012 I was astonished to hear Matthew Lupi himself state, as if it were a proven fact, that parents caught up in Family Court custody disputes often make false allegations in order to achieve an order against the other party. This view has been described by Dr Wendy Foote (2006, 2010, 2011) as the “scepticism paradigm” which flies in the face of extensive research evidence that the rate of false allegations in the Family Court are no different than the rate of false allegations in any other context, including Child Safety – that is between 5 to 9% (Brown et al 1998; 2007). Despite the weight of this research evidence, Foote found that many professionals involved with the Family Court think and act as if the rate of false accusations is far higher than below 10% and thereby fail to take such reports seriously. Cassie certainly found that her reports were dismissed and, in consequence, the very services with the mandate to protect children, arguably, were responsible for them being left in an unsafe situation. As Cassie’s support person I could see how deeply distressing this was to Cassie as she felt she was prevented from protecting her children

Cassie’s experience was reinforced in early September 2012 by the CPIU of the Police in Townsville when Detective Dave Miles told her that (1) she was to stop making reports of disclosures of CSA as police investigations distressed the girls and thus emotional harm is (and would be) substantiated against her; and (2) that if in future he heard that Cassie had looked at the girls’ sore genital areas she would be charged with an offence. I know that this happened as I have viewed the video recording of Cassie’s interview with Dave Miles, and I have read a transcript of this interview.

As a FIN professional volunteer I also supported Cassie at an interview with Dallas Grant (Child Safety Officer) at the Thuringowa Child Safety Service Centre on Friday 7th September 2012. Dallas appeared to consider that there might be some substance to the CSA reports. However, the Child Safety/Department of Communities’ ultimate decision, both to Dallas’ investigation and to the Review undertaken through Matthew Lupi, was not to change the original decision made by Merle McNulty. It was, and continues to be, unclear to me how this outcome was “in the best interests” of the twins, given the sheer volume of reports made by contact supervisors of disclosures they heard made by the twins.

It remains utterly bewildering to me that most of the professionals (GP, Child Psychologist), contact supervisors (many of whom were professionals) and wider family members and friends of Cassie, have never been interviewed by either Child Safety or the Police. I have been informed by a previous senior staff member of Child Safety that “the skill in quality investigation and assessments of matters with conflicting information is to look for sound reliable sources of subsidiary information/evidence that corroborates one or other direct sources of information. There should be extensive information gathering from a variety of sources and complex analysis of this to weigh up all evidence. Analysis of how and why various sources have been weighted over others and how this has led to the ultimate judgement of what if any harm occurred, to what level of significance, by whom, and whether the risk of harm will continue in the current environment” [name withheld, personal communication, October 2012]. In the case of the twins, the making of decisions without canvassing (let alone complex analysis of) all sources of information should, in my view, be considered grossly inadequate and unprofessional practice, amounting to a   possible case of systems abuse of vulnerable young children.

In early 2013 I supported Cassie while viewing video recordings of several interviews with each of the twins by the Police in the presence of a Child Safety officer.   Although my primary purpose was to support Cassie, I could not avoid forming the impression that (1) the interviews were conducted by the Police with a view to obtaining sufficient evidence (beyond reasonable doubt) to charge and prosecute an abuser; and (2) Child Safety appeared to take a back seat and did not appear to consider the extensive disclosures made by the girls “on the balance of probabilities”. By contrast, from what I heard the girls disclose in the interviews, I formed the opinion that they said more than enough to prompt action to protect the girls from the risk of future abuse. In my view, what the girls disclosed could not possibly have been the result of coaching by a mother who only had closely supervised contact with them. The contextual details of sexual abuse provided by the girls were astonishing, and one girl’s claim, after 3 days in foster care, that the memories were a dream suggested to me that coaching by the father (who had unsupervised contact 24/7 with the girls) of what to say to the police was an alternative possibility worthy of serious consideration.

I know that a complaint by Emeritus Professor Freda Briggs (a respected academic with expertise in child development and CSA) to the CMC prompted a review of the police interviews undertaken by Craig Weatherly and on 6th August 2013 I supported Cassie in a meeting with Craig to discuss his investigation. To my knowledge the CMC’s appraisal of Craig’s Report has not been released, although I am aware that in early 2014 Craig offered to “mediate” between Cassie and Police Detective Dave Miles. It was unclear precisely what the focus of such mediation might be and it did not happen before Cassie disappeared on 4th April 2014

In my view Child Safety Services need to undertake an independent review of the videoed police interviews with the Watter twins from a child centred perspective of assessing risk of harm rather than gathering evidence for a criminal prosecution of an adult. Furthermore, in my view, when the twins are found I would hope that they are interviewed in a far more child-friendly manner, preferably by a qualified child therapist with a prime focus on the best interests of the children.

During 2013 (twins aged 6 years) and in the first 3 months of 2014 I continued to support Cassie in the Family Court and through many months when she had only 2 hours supervised contact with the twins at the Relationships Australia Contact Centre. On 8th May 2013 I supported Cassie in a meeting with Contact Centre staff in which Cassie sought clarification of the Contact Centre supervisor’s apparent inclination to perceive “whispering” between Cassie and the twins and to interpret this as coaching – the latter fiercely denied by Cassie, who has a very soft voice.

The whispering claim is complicated by the fact that during 2013 the twins sometimes did make disclosures to Cassie, but not in the hearing of the Contact Centre supervisor. Cassie was of the view that the twins had become adept telling her what was happening to them while avoiding the punishment they would have to endure if reports got back to their father.

I came to realise that Cassie felt caught in a terrible “double-bind” (Bateson et al 1956). On the one hand she was concerned about the continuing abuse of the twins yet she feared several unwelcome repercussions if she lodged any reports: (1) the reports would be interpreted as false (the “scepticism paradigm” in operation) and therefore regarded as prima facie evidence that she had coached the twins to say what they said and, in consequence, the twins would not be assessed as in need of protection and would be left in an environment where the CSA might continue; (2) even the very limited contact Cassie had each week would be stopped and she would not be able to see her twins at all; (3) Dave Miles would charge her with an offence.

From mid 2013 into early 2014 (twins aged 6-7years) Cassie clearly became increasingly distressed by disclosures the twins were quietly making to her on contact visits (unheard by the contact supervisor) about

  • not only daddy but also daddy’s friends who were sexually abusing them (such disclosures first made on 30.6.13 by B and on 21.7.13 by I);
  • being treated for thrush (February or early March 2014);

 

  • one of the twins (I) being treated for rectal bleeding (March 2014); and

 

  • the other (B) having mouth ulcers (March 2014)

 

[it should be possible for Child Safety to check medical records].

These disclosures did not happen every Sunday but, to my knowledge, roughly every 2 or 3 weeks for some months. On these occasions Cassie would turn up after contact either at my house, or at her parents’ house, or at Madge Sceriha’s house literally shaking with distress to the extent of being unable to drive her car, and beside herself about what on earth she could do to help her daughters. Indeed on one occasion one twin had quietly said to her “mummy, help me please”.

The fact that the disclosures re Daddy and Daddy’s friends were not heard by the Contact Centre supervisor is definitely feasible given the observations, made by Cassie’s mother, Heather Doubleday, when she attended contact with Cassie, that the supervisor(s) were often not well positioned to hear absolutely all that the twins said to their mother. I understand, however, that a Contact Centre supervisor did hear about the thrush on one occasion in March 2014 as the girls spoke loudly and at length about their distaste for the gunk that was coming out of their vaginas. I do not know whether the Contact Centre lodged a report to Child Safety re this discussion about the symptoms of thrush. In my view, had such a report been submitted then it would be entirely remiss of Child Safety not to investigate – a situation reminiscent of the events which led to the establishment in 2003 of the CMC inquiry into abuse of children in foster care, reported in 2004. Is history repeating itself here?

With the benefit of hindsight, I can see that Cassie’s increasing insufferable distress on hearing these new disclosures (re Daddy’s friends, re the thrush and the rectal bleeding) and her mounting concern about the thinness of the twins (signalling neglect in Cassie’s mind), must have led her to her make a decision to abduct her daughters and flee into hiding. She did not mention, let alone discuss, this with me.

Cassie had known for over a year that I did not think abduction of her girls would be a good idea as the consequences, if/when they were found, would be imprisonment and loss of future contact with her daughters. Furthermore, Cassie knew that the Family Inclusion Network, of which I am the Townsville president, could not support any illegal activity on her part. Thus it was a total unanticipated shock to me to learn that Cassie had abducted the twins on Friday 4th April 2014.

Again with the benefit of hindsight, I can understand that, through the failure of formal child protection services including the police, Cassie must have thought there was simply no other option available to her to ensure protection from CSA for her twin daughters.

 

Conclusion to the argument developed in this document

 

From my contact as a FIN professional social work support volunteer with Cassie Watter over more than 2 years, together with the knowledge of professional colleagues from their own involvement with Cassie, I am of the firm conviction that there is more than sufficient evidence to support a decision that the twins should not be returned to their father’s care if/when they are found.

In many other cases, where there is only one disclosure of CSA compared with the multitude reported in this case, Child Safety has taken protective action. Why not in this case?

Is it because it is a “Family Court” case? If this is so, then the research evidence re disclosures of CSA in Family Court cases should be given due weight – that is, the rate of false disclosures is no different in Family Court cases than in all other cases in the community ie between 5-9% (Brown et al 1998; 2007)

If Child Safety holds the view that Cassie Watter has coached the twins then solid evidence of coaching needs to be identified rather than mere supposition based on the mischievous claims of the father and spurious references to “whispering” by the Barrister for the ICL. Over two years of contact with Cassie, I gained no impression whatsoever that she was coaching her daughters, even when I quizzed her closely on a number of occasions in order to check this out. This perception is borne out by the numerous reports made by contact supervisors who witnessed zero evidence of coaching. While contact supervisors observed the twins sometimes whispering to Cassie, they did not see Cassie whispering to the girls.

Further to the matter of Cassie Watter’s credibility, in my experience over two years of being her FIN support social worker, I found her to be a thoroughly honest person with considerable integrity. The issue of “perjury” in the Family Court was essentially an isolated example, motivated by Cassie’s wish to protect her parents from learning unpalatable information about their son, and not at all an indication of habitual deceit.

Furthermore, all of the several psychologists and psychiatrists who have assessed Cassie’s mental health have found no evidence of psychopathology. By contrast, the father’s mental health has never been fully assessed, even though he grew up in the care of a mother who lived with schizophrenia, he himself experienced CSA, and there is a significant history of his perpetration of domestic violence, evident in a Protection Order granted in October 2011.

In my view (and that of other concerned professionals) the safety and well-being of the Watter twin daughters, when found, is dependent on Child Safety Services undertaking a new and full investigation, uncontaminated by the inadequacies of previous assessments and, for the first time, interviewing all witnesses to disclosures made by the girls.

As Munro argues in her seminal paper Common Errors of Reasoning in Child Protection Work “professional judgements should be regarded as valuable but fallible, needing to be treated as hypotheses requiring further testing. This is not an easy step … (but) changing your mind should be seen as a sign of good practice and of strength not weakness” (Munro 1999 pp755-756).

 

References

Bateson, G., Jackson, D.D., Haley,   J. & Weakland,   J. (1956), Towards a Theory of Schizophrenia

Behavioral Science, Vol 1, pp251–264

Brown, T.C., Hewitt, L., Sheehan, R., Frederico, M. (1998) Child Abuse & the Family Court, Australian Institute of Criminology, Trends and Issues Series, No 91, Australian Institute of Criminology, Canberra ACT Australia, pp1-6.

Brown, T.C. and Alexander, R. (2007) Child Abuse and Family Law: Understanding the issues facing human service and legal professionals. Crows Nest: Allen and Unwin

Crime and Misconduct Commission (2004) Protecting Children: An Inquiry into the Abuse of Children in Foster Care. Brisbane CMC

Foote, W.L.(2006) Child Sexual Abuse Allegations in the Family Court. PhD thesis: University of Sydney.

Foote, W.L. (2010) ‘Responses to Allegations of Child Sexual Abuse in Family Court Hearings’, Women in Welfare Education, No. 9, pp. 63 – 78

Munro E. (1999) Common Errors of Reasoning in Child Protection Work. Child Abuse and Neglect Vol 23 No. 8 pp745-758

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Free Missing Watter Twins #Leak53

In fact , to align Michael Watter with an animal does a disservice to the animal ! You are disgusting ! WE have said before — we HAVE this photograph which will be given to the authorities when there is a PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION !!!

THIS PHOTOGRAPH IS CONFRONTING

The photograph was taken on 24th January 2012 when one of the twins, after a shower jumped up on the lounge of the maternal grand-parents with the father, Mr Michael Watter, present. The child was without underwear and it was obvious to both grandparents that the child was red raw in her genitalia area.

The father, who had been given sole parental custody on 9th December 2011, was asked to take the child to the doctor, with her mother, but he refused as he said that there was nothing wrong with her but he became very edgy and could not sit still. He sat for a few seconds then stood and walked around, doing this quite a few times before saying to both girls that it was time to go.

Before he left, though, the grandmother mentioned to the other twin granddaughter how sore her sister’s ‘toushka’ looked, to which she replied, ‘That’s what happens when daddy rubs us too hard with his penis.’

Mrs Watter felt as though they could not report this matter as she had been threatened by CPIU with arrest if any further complaints of abuse were reported.

When Mr Watter found out about the photo, he threatened to have us charged with child pornography. The photo was only taken for medical evidence as Mr Watter had refused to take the child to the doctor. The photo clearly shows the severly damaged, to the point of bleeding, genitalia area

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LEAK 49

 

Look at how many people the children disclosed the sexual abuse to !

Ask the police and child services how many of those same people were ever questioned ?

Looks like a professional and thorough investigation by the police ?  NOT !!

A PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION is needed !

 

 

List of Supervisors

 

 

  1. Rae Greaves. Founder of a Women’s shelter here in Townsville.
  2. Norm Land. Distinguished Rotarian.Norm also worked on Pilot boats for Townsville Port Authority until August 2013.
  3. Robert (Bob) Bartlett. Rotarian. Retired Council Executive.
  4. Lynette Bartlett.
  5. Rhonda Lane.
  6. Hollie Mallardi.  Student Social Services.
  7. Professor Virginia Hall OAM. (Gini). Social Science.
  8. Maureen Land.
  9. Mathew Morrison.Retired school teacher and Friend of Rotary
  10. Wendy Williams
  11. Wendy Willcox.
  12. Alex Dronysius.
  13. Karin Carmichael. Rotarian.

 

 

People to whom the girls have made sexual disclosures .

 

 

  1. Heather Doubleday. Maternal Grandmother.
  2. Arthur Doubleday. Maternal Grandfather.
  3. Christine Young. Retired nurse. .
  4. Reece Willcox.
  5. Patricia Plaistead. Retired Hospital Admistrator.
  6. Ridley Plaistead.   Retired legal Rep for W. A Court. Perth.
  7. Desiree Taylor.
  8. Carolyn Seri. Child Psychologist . Peak Performance Psychology.
  9. Dr Rebecca McGowan.   Townsville & Suburban Medical Practice.
  10. Lucy Dall-Alba. Occupational Therapist.

 

The supervisors’ reports were sent to the Independent Childrens Lawyer, Ms Joanne Meade who then sent on the reports to the mother’s lawyer and the father’s lawyer. If the girls had revealed anything of a sexual nature against the father, he would then severely punish the children. They often told us about how angry he became when he found out.

A person of great support to Cassie and also ourselves, is Emeritus Professor Rosamund Thorpe, president of Family Inclusion Network Inc.    Another support person for us and who has been involved throughout the entire time, is Mr Neville Abbey, who has just recently handed over the reins of presidency of the Nth. Qld. Grandparents in Need of Support Council Inc.

 

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Nothing done about this ! Why ?

RE INVESTIGATE please !

 

Inspector C Scanlon

Northern Regional Crime Coordinator

 

3rd November 2014

 

Subject:-  Watter children.

 

Dear Inspector,

 

It is now over 7 1/2mths since our grandchildren, Bronte & Isabella  Watter, along with their Mother, our daughter, Cassie Watter vanished on 4th April 2014.

There has been a significant amount of evidence surface during that period, of which we were not aware ie:

  1. Supervisors reports. These supervisors were approved by the Family Court, the father, Michael Watter and the Independent Childrens Lawyer, Ms Joanne Meade. The supervisors are all reputable people from all professions and walks of life. These same supervisors, I believe, have never been interviewed by police with signed statements taken.
  2. There are other witnesses other than the approved supervisors who have never been interviewed by police with signed statements taken.
  3. Heather and I have never been questioned with regard to the physical, psychological, or sexual abuse, perpetrated by the father against the girls, or had signed statements taken by police despite our many efforts to do so.
  4. Strong evidence that the father, Michael Watter, has repeatedly coached the children. Refer to our diaries and the supervisors’ reports.
  5. Evidence, in our diaries, of physical, verbal and sexual abuse by Mr Watter against Cassie Watter. A DVO was in place when he was given the children.

It has been reported to us that an Inquiry by Police into the case is in progress. Can we be assured that all evidence will be reviewed, by those conducting this inquiry?

 

Yours faithfully

 

Heather & Arthur Doubleday

 

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This post  via Safe Kids International sums it all up  !!

RE INVESTIGATE please !

https://www.facebook.com/SafeKidsInternational

 

Aussie Protective Mom Cathy Escapes into Hiding with Twin Girls!

Help Support Her and STOP the HUNT:
Call or email Attorney General Jarrod Bleijie
Email: Attorney@ministerial.qld.gov.au
Call: 07 324 79068

You can write your own email or copy and paste:

Dear Attorney General Bleijie,

Safe Kids International has made me aware of a serious injustice being committed within your jurisdiction. A mother who has been trying to protect her children from sexual abuse was not able to due to evidence being dismissed and concealed by the police, judges and safety officers.

Dismissal of evidence of sexual abuse and placement with paternal perpetrators is an international human rights crisis. See: www.RightsForWomenAndChildren.org.

The Royal Commission has even been petitioned by Bravehearts (http://www.bravehearts.org.au/

) and others to include Family Courts in their investigation of the cover up of sexual abuse.

Please do not be a party to this cover up and persecution of this wonderful protective mother and children who have thousands of supporters from all over the world. We are asking you to do the right thing and stop the hunt and dismiss the charges against her. You can see some of the mountain of evidence of abuse on Safe Kids International FB page: www.facebook.com/SafeKidsInternational. But of course you can get ALL the evidence on your own and see for yourself.

Please help save this mother and her precious children.

Thank you

The same pattern is occurring in PM Catherine’s case as has occurred in hundreds of thousands of other cases worldwide: mothers try and protect their children from abuse and custody is switched to the abusive father through false findings of alienating or coaching by mom. The mother is placed on supervised visitation to silence them about the abuse and the abuse continues.

The mainstream media has taken the father’s side in this case, as is so often the case when mothers give up on the system and go into hiding. So we present here, in social media, the mother’s and children’s side.
[Here is the one-sided “investigative” report: http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article/8837023/three-weeks-and-no-sign-of-missing-twin-girls

]

EVIDENCE:

A report by a reknowned expert in sexual abuse describes the abuse of KIDS in DANGER: Twins Bronte and Isabella, from the age of 2 years to the time their Protective Mom Catherine successfully escaped family court injustice and went into hiding this April. The girls are now nearly 8 years old.

For a period of eighteen months, the girls had been disclosing child sexual abuse to at least thirteen different people, pleading, “Please ask daddy to stop hurting my vagina/tushka”. At times, they described the appearance of their father’s sexually aroused penis and they also exhibited inappropriate sexual behaviours. A child psychologist confirmed the belief that the children had been abused but police ignored her AND the twelve other witnesses.

The child safety officer seems to have missed these interviews with the children. It would appear that she’d already decided that the mother, the director of a paediatric health centre, was “training” the children to make false reports against the father for vindictiveness and, as a result of the officers’ opinion, the children were removed by the Family Court and placed in the care of the accused father. The children then had restricted, supervised contact with their mother.

Complaints about the father’s behaviour continued subsequent to the interviews. Amazingly, police and safety officer concluded that one of the twins DREAMT having sex with her father when she was only two years old and although she cannot remember the dream, this is the explanation they give for all the complaints made over an 18 month period by both girls when they were aged 4-6. It is significant that the reference to a dream was actually introduced by police.

Police instructed the mother to dismiss future disclosures of sexual abuse by the children, banned the mother from reading a child protection story book that is published by a government funded organisation and recommended by the child safety organisation, told the mother that future allegations of sexual abuse will not be investigated, threatened the mother that if she examines their genitals when they complain of soreness, she will be arrested.

The list of persons receiving the reports of abuse includes a psychologist, a psychiatrist, an occupational therapist and five different contact supervisors none of whom appear to have been interviewed. The sexually abusive behaviour was described as: the father rubbing his penis against the vaginas of the 5-year old twins and making them sore; the father “playing” with his penis; his penis went stiff when the child had to play with it; the father telling the children that the game was a secret; the father telling the children that police cannot be trusted; the father being angry because the girls had reported being abused. The children were examined by a GP who made notifications of abuse to the Department. Vaginal cystitis, sores and prolonged vaginal pain were reported.

Police ignored the reports made by professionals such as the psychiatrist and psychologist, a former employee of the Child Safety Department who reported child sex abuse to the authorities and sent a copy of a child’s sexually explicit drawing with the child’s statement that daddy placed his penis between her legs. The psychiatrist pointed out that “the father had custody of the children for more than 95% of the time and it seems strange that the Department is pointing the finger at the mother for her children’s abnormal behaviour given that she has had relatively little time with them.”

The explanations police gave for the disclosures of abuse were contradictory and so unprofessional that Australia’s leading experts on child sexual crimes and discourse analysis were invited to analyze the documentation. As a result of their findings, a formal complaint was lodged with Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission, which appointed a police inspector to investigate the handling of this case by police.

Local police banned PM Catherine from making further reports, so in April, after years of trying to protect her precious daughters, she fled into hiding. When she is located, she will be imprisoned and the children will be returned to the father. Unless Attorney General Jarrod Bleijie stops this injustice. Please email or call him and ask him to help protect them.

*We at Safe Kids International support PM Catherine in her act of civil disobedience.

[Pictured: Catherine, Bronte and Isabella; Attorney General Jarrod Bleijie]

 

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Julie Olson Protect those kids! ! The courts won’t!

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Tina Parsons Neither will the Attorney General or any other politician. Who do you think appoints these judges (against our Constitution)?? They are all in it up to their necks. We have much evidence of all of this now (check out the many posts on my timeline).

No, We the people MUST help each other!! Start an underground movement & take it OFF of facebook!!!

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Nothing has been done about this ! Why ?

Publicly RE INVESTIGATE this please !

ATTEMPTS BY HEATHER & ARTHUR DOUBLEDAY TO REPORT CHILD ABUSE

Allegations of sexual & psychological abuse made by Isabella & Bronte Watter against their father Michael James Watter

 

20th January 2012                   Contacted the Sexual Abuse Hotline in Brisbane and was referred to Relationships Australia in Townsville.

8th March 2012                       Contacted Federal Member for Herbert, Mr Ewen Jones.

12th March 2012                     Mr Jones’ office advised us to phone Mr Steven Cannon, Senior Intake Officer at Child Safety.

15th March 2012                     Phoned Mr Cannon for an appointment on 47997900. Mr Cannon was to phone back with an appointment date. We still have had no contact with Mr Cannon.

1st October 2012                     Contacted the Commissioner for Children and by Monday 8th October 2012, we still have had no reply.

4th October 2012                    Went into the see the Child Protection & Investigation Unit, Townsville City with a statement of abuse that was made by the girls in front of five adults. Never spoke to anyone from the CPIU. Were told that they would ‘get back to us.’ No one ever contacted. Others also contacted police in regard to the abuse but were never interviewed by police.

15th October 2012                  Again into the City Police Station with a statement and again the same response as above.

19th October 2012                  To Kirwan Police Station with a statement re girls’ allegations of abuse and of being left in car with windows wound up and in full sunshine. Told that statement would be sent to CPIU. Again we never heard from them.

7th November 2012                Another incident of girls in car in full sunshine, windows up and car locked, so reported to Kirwan Police Station with a signed statement. Received a phone call from police to say that ‘It is alright to leave children in a car for a reasonable amount of time’!

17th January 2013                   Telephone call to Snr Det Sgt David Miles who refused to take a statement or speak to us in regard to the sexual abuse allegations. Transcript of phone call available.

3rd March 2013                       Had an interview with a Ms Gaynor at Child Safety who refused to take statements of allegations of sexual abuse made by the girls against their father saying that it was a matter for the CPIU but we had been there and they also had refused to take statements. We had asked for the interviewer’s name three times and each time she stated Ms Gaynor. We later found out that her name was Ms Gaynor WILLIAMS. Transcript for this interview is also available.

 

We have never, to this day, been interviewed by the police in relation to the sexual abuse, that the children, Bronte and Isabella, have revealed to us and also the family violence, which has been on-going for many years. Mr Watter had a DVO out against him to protect Cassie and Isabella when he was given sole custody of the children. (Photos attached)

Heather & Arthur Doubleday

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LEAK 45

The evident corruption and ineptitude between the police and other government departments grows bigger and bigger !

Why do you think none of the questions in the letter below by the grandfather have been answered ?

Why do you think the police have not questioned  the people the children disclosed their sexual abuse to ?

We are not policemen but we know if we were investigating this case that we certainly would have interviewed every single person the children had disclosed their rape and abuse to ! Wouldn’t you ? Seriously !

Whenever anyone has spoken up they have either been ignored , told to go away and/or disbelieved , irrespective of the evidence ! We refer you back to our very first LEAK 1 and Professor Freda Brigg’s comments and need to ask WHY none of this has been looked at correctly by the authorities ? WE are talking reputable , qualified individuals with no axe to grind !

Why would the Child Safety Officer refuse to give her full name when the sexual and psychological abuse was reported by the grandparents ? Like the grandfather says – he has a transcript of the interview , as we do !

Why would Det. Sen. Sgt. David Miles refuse to take evidence ? He is a policeman is he not or is he just a servant of certain members of the community ?

Police Officer Rob Garnett refused to take evidence from the people the sexual abuse was disclosed to ! Why would that be Mr. Policeman ?

What makes Detective Snr Sgt David Miles, Officer Michelle Faint and a Department of Child Safety Officer judge and jury in this case ?

Evidence has emerged that alleges the Independent Children’s Lawyer, Ms Joanne Meade of Legal Aid, Townsville, attempted to interfere with evidence to be presented to the Family Court and yet nothing is done about this either ! Why ?

Why are answers still being awaited from Inspector Craig Weatherley ? Is it because Professor Freda Briggs has passed away and therefore cannot follow up on her questions ? Very convenient for Inspector Craig Weatherly isn’t it !

The previous LNP Government’s Minister for Child Safety, Hon Tracey Davies, refused to meet with child protection specialists, Ms Hetty Johnston and Emeritus Professor Dr Freda Briggs AO in relation to the case. Why? Yes —- why ?

So many questions and absolutely NO answers !!

There is no question here that a PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION is needed !

Hon Jo-Ann Miller

Minister for Police & Emergency Services

And Minister for Corrective Services

P.O. Box 122

Goodna Q;d   4300

27th April 2015

Dear Madam,

We met with you at the recent Queensland State Government Minister’s Meeting, held in Townsville on 29th February 2015. We were accompanied by several Social Welfare, Child Protection and Family Violence Service Centre workers with more than 130yrs combined experience in their various fields.

We were all disappointed with our inability to present evidence in the Watter v Watter case.

The Police Commissioner, Ian Stewart, held his line repeatedly by stating that Mrs Cassie Watter needed to be brave and present herself with her children, Isabella and Bronte, for questioning.

Indeed, she was brave enough to come forward and report the abuse that the children reported to her. The children were also brave enough to disclose to the Child Protection Investigation Unit, in minute detail, the abuse which their father, Mr Michael James Watter had inflicted upon them.

Detective Snr Srg David Miles, Officer Michelle Faint and a Department of Child Safety Officer told the mother that they did not believe her or the children.

The children have disclosed abuse to many reputable people, who have never been spoken to by Police or Child Safety, including ourselves.

Police Officer Rob Garnett also refused to take evidence of abuse that the children had disclosed to witnesses.

We reported to Department of Child Safety officer, Ms Gaynor Williams, on 3rd March 2013 the allegations of sexual and psychological abuse of which the children had reported to us. Ms Williams refused to take the abuse saying that it was a police matter. Ms Williams refused to give her full and proper name at the interview. A transcript of the interview is available.

On 17th January 2013, we telephoned Det Snr Srg David Miles, who refused to take the evidence from us that the children had disclosed to us. A transcript of the conversation is available.

Both these attempts to report abuse were prior to a Court Case.

Evidence has emerged that alleges the Independent Childrens Lawyer, Ms Joanne Meade of Legal Aid, Townsville, attempted to interfere with evidence to be presented to the Family Court.

We were stunned when told, by police, of Cassie and the girl’s disappearance and could not understand why she would place herself under the threat of imprisonment. However with the mountain of evidence, which has emerged since 4th April 2014, it would appear that, in order to protect the children, she had no other option.

We do not support her actions and have no idea of her whereabouts.

The comments from the Commissioner that we or Cassie’s siblings should contact her and encourage her to return were very hurtful, particularly to my wife, as it implied that we knew where Cassie is, which we don’t. We both have slept little since their disappearance and are constantly trying to work out where they might be and if okay or even if alive. We grieve every day for the loss of our daughter and precious grandchildren.

We have full respect and confidence in the Commissioner and to put it in layman’s terms, we believe to be an honest cop’, but, maybe, not fully briefed on the case.

We believe that Cassie could be encouraged to return, with the children, given the right environment.

I mentioned the encouragement of Cassie to return, to the A/Regional Crime Coordinator, Northern Region, Inspector, Cheryl Scanlon, who referred us to Child Safety. On contacting Child Safety, they would not even acknowledge that we had even asked the question.

Mrs Cassie Watter with her daughters Bronte and Isabella would need to be brave, very brave indeed, to return to the disbelief, bullying, threats and mistreatment of Officials in C.P.I.U. and D.O.C.S. in Townsville. All trained Child Protection Personnel should know that five year old children would be unable to ‘dream’ the sexual abuse which these girls, Isabella and Bronte, had described so explicitly to Officers at C.P.I.U. with a Child Safety Officer present, unless they had experienced it.

The Queensland Police Service’s insistence that no further investigations can commence until all three are located, is concerning as all three were available for almost 2 ½ years prior to their disappearance and yet, Det Snr Srg David Miles refused to investigate, during that time, disclosures of sexual abuse which the girls had revealed to so many reputable witnesses.

We know of another family, in Townville, who have had a similar experience with Child Protection Investigation Unit and Child Safety, in the fact that Det Snr Srg David Miles does not believe the mother or her children about sexual abuse, perpetrated against the children by their father. Astonishingly, Det Snr Srg David Miles still heads the C.P.I.U. in Townsville.

Nigh on 18months ago a serious complaint was lodged with the, then, Crime & Misconduct Commission, now the Crime & Corruption Commission in relation to Det Snr Srg David Miles and others. This complaint was handed to Inspector Craig Weatherley to investigate. Has the investigation been completed? If so, are you able to advise us of the outcome?

Justice Tree of the Federal Family Court, warned all parties, including the press that Section 121 of the Family Law Act would be enforced. Section 121 relates to the information, relative to a specific case being not made public. We have observed this ruling by only going public when asked by the police to request Cassie and the Children to return. Mr Watter has ignored Section 121 by placing the Watter v Watter Court Rulings on Facebook. Mr Watter has accused us of being involved in the abduction and harbouring of Cassie and the children and has also run a strong campaign against his wife by accusing her of having mental problems and abusing the children, gaining him huge public support.

The previous LNP Government’s Minister for Child Safety, Hon Tracey Davies, refused to meet with child protection specialists, Ms Hetty Johnston and Emeritus Professor Dr Freda Briggs AO in relation to the case. Why? Is your Government prepared to meet with these expert people who have an intimate knowledge of the Watter v Watter case.

Your Government was swept to power on the promise of integrity and accountability. These principals have not been applied to this case.

Please do something to have these children’s cries for help, heard and believed.

 

Yours faithfully

Heather & Arthur Doubleday

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LEAK 44

This statement once again pretty much says it all about our little man who is so kind , loving and caring towards his twin daughters !

Bless you Michael for being such a person . You will get your reward when you die I am sure !

 

 

To Whom it May Concern,

My name is Wendy Ellen Palmer and I live at 18 Oldenburg Place Kelso.  I have lived there for 10 years.  I was born on 11th of December 1961 and am 50 years old.

I have been Cassie and Michael’s neighbour since they moved in about 5 years ago.

Although we never got to know eachother very well, we always said hello or waved.  When the girls were at toddler stage I got to see a bit more of them as Cassie would walk with them around the yard and they would stop and have a chat with me.

My husband and myself thought it was a strange set up with Cassie and Michael as you always saw Cassie out mowing the lawns and doing the yard work, not Michael.  We thought that Michael worked away because we hardly saw him for the whole time.  They had a donga delivered and Cassie prepared the ground for it and was there when it was delivered.  When Cyclone Yasi came it was Cassie who got ready and cleaned up after the cyclone had gone.

We used to see Cassie and the girls playing the front yard with their mum.  Not long before Cassie and the girls moved out they were out the front making a garden with old car tyres.  I saw Cassie bring the loads of tyres and dirt and unload them off the trailer.  The girls helped Cassie put them where they wanted them and they made gardens in them.  The girls were talking to me and told me it was their garden.  The girls were so friendly they would talk to me over the fence if I was outside.  When they got their dog they were so excited they told me how he plays with them it was so sweet.

I hardly ever saw Michael outside in the yard or even out playing with the girls.  If he was out there it wasn’t very often it just always seemed Cassie was the one there the whole time.

Since Cassie moved out I have had some worries about the girls.  For example on the 29th of January Michael and the girls were out the front watering the plants in the middle of the afternoon.  The girls only had knickers on – no hat or shirt and it was a very hot sunny day.

On another day (I think it was Monday the 2nd of January – or around then but it was later in the afternoon), I saw Michael drive into the yard in his car.  He was by himself.  About half an hour later he left with the girls in the car.  No one else came or left.  I think the girls had been there by themselves.  I have seen Michael a few times at the local IGA etc without the girls.  If I got home first then I would see him come home without the girls, then I would hear the girls (if they watered their garden or something).  I haven’t seen anyone else come and go at these times.

I have only seen the girls a couple of times since then.  They are not around a lot any more at all.  I have not really seen Michael either.

The yard at one stage was in such a state because it had not been mowed for I don’t know how long.  It really should be done because there are so many snakes in our area.  The grass was over 3 feet high and apart from snakes there was no room for the girls to play that would be safe.  I only know about the snakes because I have seen them come through the fence from their yard into ours.  My husband sprayed poison over the fence a little bit to try and kill off some of the grass.  I also have young grandchildren that play in my yard and I would hate for one of them to get bitten.

I did end up calling the council after a few months.  Michael is always so angry so I didn’t feel safe talking to him first.  My husband is away a lot for work.

On the 19th February I was woken up because I could hear a loud noise.  I looked out and saw it was someone mowing.  It was before 7am and it was a Sunday.  I was glad that it was being mowed though.

At about 10 o’clock the mower had pretty much been going non-stop, and I would see the person mowing just stop to put petrol in and then keep going.  I got a call from Cassie and she said that one of the girls had called her saying that they were by themselves in the house and scared.  I said someone was mowing and I would check.  I went over to the fence near the house and could hear one of the girls screaming like they were upset and tried to get the attention of the person on the mower.  At that stage I still hadn’t seen that it was Michael because they had a big hat on, sunglasses, long shirt and pants.  But the person on the mower couldn’t hear me and I saw that there were white ‘strings’ going up to his ears like there were ear plugs or ear phones in.

I went back to the house and rang Cassie back and told her.  She said that he might have his music on his phone and that she would ring him.

I went back outside and saw the mower drive from the back up to the house (we are on acreage blocks).  Michael got off and went into the house.  He came back out with one of the girls, put her on the ride on mower, and then kept mowing.  He left the other girl in the house.  The girl had her hat on and I couldn’t see clearly whether it was Bronte or Isabella.

He did not mow the grass again until a few weeks ago.  The grass was really long again and we had snakes again.  I don’t think it was safe for the girls.

The girls don’t say hello or talk anymore.  It appears almost like they are frightened to approach me now.

If there are any questions about this information my contact number is 00 12345678

Wendy Ellen Palmer

 

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LEAK 43

 

SUPREME/DISTRICT/MAGISTRATESCOURT OF QUEENSLAND

 

REGISTRY:
NUMBER:

 

 

Plaintiff[i]: Arthur Doubleday
AND
[First] Defendant[ii]: Michael Watter

 

AFFIDAVIT

 

Darrel Stanley Doubleday of 32 Reisling Road, Bonnells Bay, New South Wales states on oath:

 

  1. I am the brother of the Plantiff, Arthur Doubleday.

 

  1. On Saturday the 10th of May, 2014, I was at my brother’s house, Arthur Doubleday at 1155 Riverway Drive, Rasmussen, Queensland. It was about lunchtime and I recall that the phone rang a number of times in a short time frame. I recall that Arthur did not answer the phone for the first couple of times, then Arthur finally answered it. After Arthur hung up the phone he said to me words to the effect of “That was the florist and he said someone is sending Heather flowers for mother’s day and would someone be home tomorrow. I remember we all discussed the nature of the call and thought it was a bit strange.

 

  1. I remember the following day (mother’s day) we were sitting out the front on the verandah when a grey coloured 4WD wagon stopped across the road from Arthur’s house. It stayed there for a while and Arthur got up and walked towards the front gate. I remember that the wagon then drove off and appeared to be in a hurry. I remember around the same time I recall a red Alfa Romeo drive past Arthur’s on the opposite side of the road and then drove past again a very short time later driving the other way. I remember when Arthur came back he mentioned that the Alfa Romeo was Michael Watter’s car.
  2. Two hours later or thereabouts we were still out the front on the verandah and I recall seeing the same grey wagon stop at the driveway. Arthur got up and started to walk to the front gate and the car sped off.
  3. Sworn [or: Affirmed] by Darrel Doubleday on                                            at                                    in the presence of:Signed:Deponent[who certifies that the affidavit was read in the presence of the deponent who seemed to understand it, and signified that that person made the affidavit. (If required: see R. 433(1)].  

    [who certifies that the affidavit was read in the presence of the deponent who seemed to understand it, and signified that that person made the affidavit, but was physically incapable of signing it. (If required: see R.433(2)].

     

[i] For proceedings commenced by Originating Application for “Plaintiff” substitute “Applicant”

 

[ii] For proceedings commenced by Originating Application for “Defendant” substitute “Respondent”

 

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LEAK 42

 

 

Michael Watter’s abuse towards the grandparents  Heather & Arthur Doubleday..

On December 9th 2011 Mr Watter was awarded sole custody of Bronte and Isabella Watter the twin daughters of his and Catherine (Cassie) Lee Watter. Contained in the Order handed down by Judge John Coker was the fact that Mr Watter  was to encourage a meaningful relationship between the twins and ourselves as grandparents. This was never forthcoming and the breach had continued to the day that, we presume, Cassie abducted the girls and went into hiding with them.

All access with the girls was under strict supervision, which was not ordered by the Court. This supervision was, firstly, under supervision with Mr Watter himself then under supervision with the Court approved supervisors, for Cassie, when she had access with the girls. We only saw the girls when Cassie was able to come to our place or we went over to hers while Cassie’s supervised access was in progress.

We had e-mailed Mr Watter on quite a few occasions (e-mails attached), requesting time with the girls only to either be refused or ignored. We had made requests to attend functions at the girls’ school which were refused and when we spoke with Mr Clayton Carnes, the Hermit Park State School Principal, we were told that, due to the fact that Mr Watter had ordered that we not be at the school, Mr Carnes would be obliged to call police to evict us.

The original supervision by Mr Watter himself ceased on 24th January 2012 when we noted one girl with a very near red-raw genitalia and when mentioned to the other twin she stated, ‘That’s what happens when Daddy rubs us too hard with his penis.’ and on 28th January Mr Watter came to our home to speak with Arthur during which he stated that ‘Cassie would NEVER have those children again!’ and that his supervision was to cease immediately to ‘protect himself’.

Access ceased, completely, for a couple of months until the Court ordered, ICL and Mr Watter approved supervisors were appointed which was when we were able to make contact with the girls again but only under supervision. This supervision, for us, was never an order from the Court but a dictate from Mr Watter in order ‘to protect himself’.

The Court approved supervisors’ access ceased on 11th October2012 and Cassie then only had access at Relationships Australia at Nth Ward for 1 ½ hrs one Saturday afternoon and then 1 ¾ hrs the alternate Saturday. This changed to 2 hrs each Sunday when Raltionships Australia opened their new premises at Condon in latter half of 2013.

From 11th October 2012 to 4th April 2014 when Cassie presumably went into hiding with the girls we had only seen the girls with Cassie and which Cassie arranged, at supervised access to celebrate Christmas on 24th Dec 2012, the girls B’day 2013, 26th Jan 2013 as Cassie had been stranded in Bundaberg during the floods so we took her place for access, 31st August 3013 to celebrate our 50th Wedding anniversary with the girls, Sun 22 Dec, for Christmas and again 4th Jan for girls Birthday.

On 28th February 2014, we took Michael to Court regarding the breach and he was ordered by Justice Tree to see that he kept the Order to give us a meaningful relationship as per a new Order of June 2013. We then saw the girls but again under Mr Watter’s strict supervision,( which was not an Order of the Court) on 3rd March, 16th Feb, 26th Feb for half-an-hour at the school for the girls’ cross-country race. (Mr Watter met us at the school gate, walked in with us and stayed by our side all the while and then walked us out again) and then again on 3rd April.

Mr Watter has claimed that we have a mental problem and should seek medical assistance for this. As per attached e-mail.

4th April 1014. We phoned Mr Watter after the police had been to our place to inform us of the presumed abduction only to be threatened and abused. Call disconnected. He phoned back to repeat the threats and abuse so disconnected again.  Reported to police at Kirwan.

10th May 2014.  Received 2 blocked calls which we didn’t answer. Phoned again and when answered man said that it was the florist (not naming which florist) and that they had a special delivery for Mrs Doubleday the following day and when would we be home. Arth said that we would be home in the morning, going out for lunch and then out all afternoon. ‘So! You will be out all afternoon?’ the man said. ‘Yes!’ said Arth.  This set alarm bells ringing as the man seemed more interested in when we would be out rather than home so we cancelled our arrangements for the following day.

11th May 2014. We, Arth & I, his brother and wife, who were visiting at the time, were all sitting out on the front patio at 11:40am when a metal, dark grey Nissan X-Trail pulled up opposite our driveway and just sat there for some minutes when Arth rose and walked out to the front gate the car sped off. A short time later while Arth still out at the front gate Mr Watter drove slowly past in his red Alfa Romeo whilst looking in towards our home. He too sped off when he saw Arth. 1 ½ to 1 ¾ hrs later the same Nissan pulled up in our drive and was looking in but sped off again when Arth walked out. We never received any flowers.

7th September 2014.  Received a phone call from Mr Watter. He became quite angry and called Arth a liar. Arth said, ‘Beg your pardon?’ to which Mr Watter shouted, ‘YOU’RE A LIAR AND THE WHOLE OF TOWNSVILLE WILL SOON KNOW THAT YOU’RE A LIAR!’ He also said that he had reported us to the Federal Police for breaching Court Orders for passing on information to his buddy, Dr Juergen Landmann. We have never heard anything from the Federal Police.

26th November 2014. WE received a text message from Mr Watter at 6:44am but not opened until 10:03am which stated, ‘your day is coming sooner that you think you fucking crims’ It was accompanied by a photo of the cover of the ‘Take 5’ magazine in which Mr Watter had an article regarding the missing girls.

We have received numerous blocked calls during all times of the night with no one speaking. Only , when a man said, ‘Have you found Cassie and the girls yet?’ Arth asked, three times for a name but was not given one, before the caller disconnected the call.

 

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 It is obvious that this PIG , Michael Watter , has had a great deal in telling his children what to say and do !

Michael Watter , threatening his twin daughters AGAIN  !

These children are extremely clever and point out to the grandfather that their father Michael Watter threatened them with not being allowed to see their mother again if they did not tell a lie to the police !

This little man Michael Watter is one very cowardly , despicable person !

 

 

Affidavit

 

I, Arthur Ernest Doubleday of 1155 Riverway Drive Rasmussen make an oath and state that:

  1. On Tuesday 9th of October 2012, Bronte and Isabella Watter visited our home after school with their mother, Catherine (Cassie) Watter and supervisor, Mathew Morrison.
  2. We also had guests present in the house, Cliff and Cilla Jerrett and Nev
  3. The girls ran in after patting the dogs. They seemed excited to be here.  They raced to the kitchen to see the tiny egg one of their chooks had laid, and showed it to Mathew as well.  Then they went and started playing with their kitchen.
  4. After greeting everyone, Cassie said that she needed to make a phone call and went into a room and closed the door.
  5. Mathew called us from our guests later as Cassie was very upset.
  6. With the girls playing in another room, Cassie told us that she had spoken to her solicitor’s office and that there was a chance that she may not have any contact with the girls again.
  7. She did not have a chance to say why, because Isabella opened the door to the room and entered. Cassie told Isabella that she was upset because she had a sore tummy.  Bronte also came in.  Cassie asked the girls if they wanted to go and collect the eggs from the chook pen, and said that when they came back she would be feeling better.
  8. Isabella went to another room, got a bear to help her mother feel better and then the girls came with me out the back.
  9. On the way down (about 50-60 meters from the house) Isabella said that Mummy was very sad. I said she must have a headache.  Isabella said ‘No Pop’  She laughed, rolled her eyes at me and patted her tummy.  Bronte ran ahead to the chook pen to see her chooks.   Isabella then said that she had told the police that Mum said to say Dad was doing naughty things to us.  But she didn’t    Dad told us we must say that or he would not take us to see Mum any more.
  10. I simply said that you must always tell the truth, like Ackie McCacky McCartney – a bed time story I used to tell them when they were staying with us.

Sworn at:  ________________________    on the   ___________   day of   _________________   2012.

 

____________________________                                          ____________________________

Deponent                                                                                   Justice of the Peace

 

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LEAK 40

 

The latest analysis submitted by ANONYMOUS .

 

More evidence for a PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION !!!

 

This case is a disgrace !!

 

Contentions re CSA and the Watter twins  written June 2014

Is there enough evidence to support these contentions? How robust is this evidence?

Which contentions should be discarded?

 

 

Contentions about the twin girls Evidence For Evidence Against Relevant research Evidence Comments
1. Since 2011 the twin girls reported repeatedly that they have experienced CSA perpetrated by their Father, and also, since June 2013, by their father’s friends Videoed interviews by the police with each twin in 2012.

2012 contact supervisors’ reports Cassie’s reports to counsellors and support professionals Cassie’s parents and their friends reports

Michael’s denials and claims one or both twins are liars.

 

Disbelief by police and Child Safety

Should a child be protected based solely on his or her disclosure of sexual abuse? Yes: The single most important indicator of child sexual abuse is disclosure by the child to a trusted adult.

Children hardly ever fabricate allegations of sexual abuse. Studies analysing maliciously fabricated allegations of child sexual abuse have found that children bring only 0% to 2% of such allegations. (Child Abuse Solutions, Inc. point numbers 25, 16)

The contextual detail about incidents of CSA (provided spontaneously by the twins in interviews with police) point to the authenticity of the disclosures. It is not credible to regard such nuanced detail (eg father’s changing facial expression) could be taught by a mother who only has supervised contact.

 

2. Retractions of disclosures made by the girls are evidence that CSA did not occur Police and child safety assessment when one twin, after 3 days in a foster home, says “it was a dream”. Contact supervisor’s report of an argument between the twins about whether it was a dream or not. One twin is adamant CSA was real, not a dream.

 

Both twins make numerous disclosures about CSA in the eighteen months after one told the police it was a dream

Between 22% and 33% of sexually abused children recant previous disclosures of sexual abuse when they experience the serious negative consequences of disclosure, including the breakup of their family, pressure from parents, or removal from their home.

Rates of recantation are highest when the accused perpetrator is a parent or close relative of the child upon whom the child is dependent, and when the child is placed in unsupervised contact with the accused perpetrator after having disclosed sexual abuse.

About 93% of those children who recant their prior disclosures of sexual abuse later reaffirm their prior disclosures and disclose further about their sexual abuse. (Child Abuse Solutions, Inc. point numbers 20)

It is astonishing that one story about a dream (after 3 days in foster care) is given far more weight by police and child safety than all the other numerous disclosures.

Do the police not want to believe the girls’ disclosures?

Are they set in their view of Cassie as coaching the girls to make malicious allegations?

Are they ruled by the “scepticism paradigm” re CSA allegations and the Family court? (Foote 2006)

 

3. When Contact supervisors did not hear disclosures made by the twins about CSA then it is fair to assume they have been fabricated. The opinion expressed by the ICL and the Barrister for the ICL In home contact supervisors report that when a twin whispered in Cassie’s ear Cassie immediately asked them to repeat what they said so that the supervisor could hear. They do not report that Cassie told the girls what to say.

At the Relationships Australia Contact Centre it is impossible to avoid moments when the supervisor doesn’t hear what is said without a parent and child wearing a recording device.

Maliciously fabricated allegations of child sexual abuse are exceedingly rare. Most studies find that only 1% to 6% of all child sexual abuse allegations in custody disputes are maliciously fabricated.

Studies find that family law judges consider allegations of child physical and sexual abuse to be maliciously fabricated far more often than is supported by research.

 

Between 22% and 33% of sexually abused children recant previous disclosures of sexual abuse when they experience the serious negative consequences of disclosure …including pressure from parents.

 

(Child Abuse Solutions, Inc. point numbers point numbers 17, 20)

The twins appear to be skilled in making disclosures to Cassie – their identified primary “safe” person – without anyone else hearing. This is hardly surprising given they have spoken of their fear of their father’s anger when he learns they have made disclosures and the punishments he has inflicted on them – eg extreme anger; withholding food; forcing them to observe an insect dying slowly over many days in a closed jar as punishment for being naughty.

 

4. The girls express dismay when they are left unprotected from experiencing CSA by their father Reported comments by the girls to their mother, their non- abusing parent:

 

1.    “we keep telling you mummy, but nothing happens” (2012)

 

2.    “Are you still fighting for us, mummy” (Jan 2014)

 

3.         No (she’s not still fighting for us). She’s given up on us” (Jan 2014)

 

4.         “Mummy, please help me” (Jan 2014)

 

Nil

Children are most likely to disclose recent or on- going abuse to their non- abusive parents

(Child Abuse Solutions, Inc.   point number 2)

 

Ramsden K (2013)

“I don’t think they can hear us”: Children’s perspectives on their own well-being.

Developing Practice

Issue 36 pp 18-30

Despite all the rhetoric in Child Protection policy about Listening to the voices of children, in practice those with the power to act protectively seem to be hard of hearing or (worse) discount the validity of a child’s voice.

 

When the girls are found they should be interviewed by a well-qualified child therapist rather than the police or Child safety officers

 

Contentions about Cassie Evidence For Evidence Against Relevant research evidence Comments
 

1.     Cassie Watter is a mentally disturbed woman

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2.     Cassie Watter has been coaching her daughters to disclose CSA

 

Suggested Munchausen by proxy by Michael – with NO medical records of this.

ICL suggests Hyper- vigilance on account of her own (exaggerated – by Michael – child hood experience) causes Cassie to suspect CSA. The ICL, I have been told, attempted to persuade one senior psychiatrist to change his report on Cassie.

 

Nil – apart from One RA report of “whispering” which is catastrophised by the barrister for the ICL, with no detail of the content of whispers provided.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Reports from 2

Psychiatrists and 4 psychologists found NO evidence of psychopathology in Cassie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Reports from contact supervisors, and Cassie’s parents provide NO evidence of coaching and explain incidents of “whispering” in context

 

 

 

 

 

 

Re Hyper-vigilance: Rate of False allegations re CSA in Family Court

cases is NOT higher than in any other context – ie 5-10% (Brown et al 1998)

 

 

 

 

 

There is no reputable research to support the notion that children can be brainwashed to believe they have been sexually abused when they have not.

(Child Abuse Solutions, Inc point number 16)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Invalid conclusions have

been

drawn from reports of “whispering”.

 

3.     Cassie Watter is an habitual liar

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4.     Cassie Watter has fooled (groomed) the contact supervisors, her family, her friends and her supporters

 

5.     Cassie Watter is more concerned about “getting” Michael than about protecting her daughters

Generalisations about Cassie’s integrity were drawn from a sole instance of withholding the full truth about her own childhood from the Family Court.

Labelling of Cassie and her sister as habitual liars by Michael and Cassie’s brother, Stephen.

 

Negative character assassination of Cassie by Michael

 

 

Michael’s testimony – believed by Merle McNulty (Child Safety) – that when Cassie confronted him in 2011 about the disclosures made by the girls, she was “setting him up”. This view was put to Michael by a police officer whom he phoned at the time.

Reports from family and friends.

Reports from mental health professionals. Evidence of Cassie acting protectively (re her parents) in withholding the full truth in the Family Court about her childhood experience.

 

 

 

 

Long term knowledge of Cassie by her family and friends

 

 

Persistent concern for the twin’s well-being and safety expressed by Cassie to Child Safety and the police.

Preparedness to break the law and abduct her daughters in order to protect them from harm.

Labelling theory (Becker 1963)

 

Stigma (Goffman 1963)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Labelling theory (Becker 1963)

Stigma (Goffman 1963)

 

 

“Scepticism paradigm” held by professionals re Family Court cases (Foote 2006)

Inaccurate and negatively biased generalisations form part of the character assassination of Cassie undertaken by Michael and accepted unquestioningly by Family Court professionals

 

Labelling Theory and Goffman’s associated theory of the stigma which surrounds a “spoiled identity” remains highly applicable in this situation, despite dating from the early years of critical Sociology.

 

6.     Cassie Watter has encouraged her daughters to have a positive and safe relationship with their father, Michael Watter

 

 

 

7.     Cassie Watter was/is always a good mother

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

8.     Cassie Watter has always striven to protect her daughters from harm, despite being disbelieved by Child Safety, the police, the ICL, and the Family Court

Reports from contact supervisors, family and friends.

Transcript of interview with police on 4.9 2012.

 

 

Testimony from family, friends and from contact supervisors.

Comments in the media by Detective Dave Miles and by Michael himself that the girls will be safe with their mother.

 

 

Persistent concern expressed by Cassie to Child Safety and the police. Dismay at the substantiation of emotional harm against her. Eventual preparedness to break the law and abduct her daughters in order to protect them from harm when Child Safety and Police have failed to protect them.

 

Nil

 

 

 

 

 

 

Nil – apart from unsubstantiated character assassination by Michael and his friends

 

 

 

 

 

 

Child Safety substantiated emotional harm against Cassie as a result of Cassie’s reports leading to the girls being interviewed by police and thereby distressed.

94% of children involved in custody disputes are not rejecting of either parent

(Child Abuse Solutions, Inc. point number 21)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

“Scepticism paradigm” held by professionals re Family Court cases (Foote 2006)

Only 10% of children alleging incest are adequately protected from their identified perpetrators by family courts

(Child Abuse Solutions, Inc. point number 2

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The “scepticism paradigm” serves to let professionals “off the hook” from giving primary focus to the protective needs and best interests of children involved in high conflict custody disputes.

 

 

 

 

Contentions about Michael Evidence For Evidence Against Relevant Research evidence Comments
1.     Michael Watter is a mentally disturbed man

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

2.     Michael Watter has sexually abused his daughters

Michael’s vindictive behaviour and lack of empathy.

His childhood experience of a mother living with Schizophrenia and his own experience of CSA. The letter written by his grandmother to Cassie’s parents when he married Cassie about Michael’s angry moods and maltreatment of his mother. Astonishingly, no psychiatric assessment has ever been undertaken

 

 

Disclosures by the twins on numerous occasions heard by Cassie, her parents, her parents’ friends, a child psychologist, a GP,

Michael’s presentation of self as a charming professional man to child safety, police, lawyers and on Facebook

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Michael’s denials; police and child safety assessments based on subjective disbelief and on the girls’ retraction of

Mowbray et al (2006) Psychosocial Outcomes for Adult Children of Parents with Severe Mental Illnesses Health & Social Work 31, 2

Hare R.D. (1993) Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of Psychopaths among Us.

Manne A (2014) The New Culture of Narcissism

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Schultz (2013) re disbelief Briggs (2013) re police behaviour

Research suggests a retraction does not necessarily mean that abuse has not happened.

The contrast between Michael’s charming public and angry private personas, together with his vindictive behaviour against Cassie, suggests serious consideration should be given to the possibility that he may have narcissistic personality disorder or psychopathic tendencies.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

3.     Michael Watter has perpetrated DV against Cassie Watter and has anger problems

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

4.     Michael Watter has undertaken character assassination of Cassie, and has encouraged his daughters to regard her as a bad mother.

contact supervisors, the police and Child Safety who placed the girls in foster care for 3 days in Sept 2012.

 

 

 

Counselling with Matthew Power, Relationships Australia. And support from NQDVRS in obtaining a protection Order

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Michael’s Affidavits for the Family Court.

Reports by the twins to Cassie (and heard by contact supervisors) of what he has told them to believe about her and her family

disclosures after 3 days in foster care

 

 

 

 

 

 

Michael’s denials and testimony by friends (Stephen and Sheree Heilbronn) that family violence is “normal” and should be accepted by a victim.

(Child Abuse Solutions, Inc. Point number 20) & http://www.communities.q ld.gov.au/resources/childsa fety/child-protection/child- sexual-abuse-brochure.pdf

 

 

 

Abusive ex-spouses may use family court litigation as a new forum to continue their coercive, controlling behaviour and to harass their former partner.

Litigation exacts a high emotional price, especially for abused women already overwhelmed with the aftermath of a violent relationship.”

(Child Abuse Solutions, Inc.   Point number 27)

 

Labelling theory (Becker 1963)

Stigma (Goffman 1963)

 

50% of the parents in one study engaged in behaviours which might have sabotaged the child’s

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5.     Michael Watter has conned Child Safety, the police, his lawyers, and the ICL

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

6.     Michael Watter is more concerned to “get” Cassie, and to “win”, than to meet the needs of his daughters

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The stark contrast between Michael’s angry and abusive behaviour behind closed doors and his presentation of self to child safety, police, lawyers etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Evidence from Contact supervisors – especially Rae Greaves.

Letter from Michael’s lawyers to the ICL querying the validity of the

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Presentations of self on the “Help find ….” Facebook page

relationship with the other parent – “by telling negative stories and … using the child to convey these messages”

(Child Abuse Solutions, Inc.   Point number 21)

 

 

Hare R.D. (1993) Without Conscience

Anne Manne (2014) The new culture of Narcissism MUP

Anne Manne Weekend Australian Magazine June 28-29 2014 p31

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Abusive ex-spouses may use family court litigation as a new forum to continue their coercive, controlling behaviour and to harass their former partner.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Again, this contrasting behaviour suggests the possibility of narcissistic or psychopathic tendencies. “A narcissist may seem confident and

attractive, until some apparently minor offence triggers an annihilating rage. Empathy is missing. So too is the capacity for reciprocity.”

 

psychiatrist’s report on Cassie (2012). The ICL approaches the psychiatrist to request he reconsider his report.

Family Court and legal files, the girls’ medical records, two laptops and one iphone (but nothing else) stolen, and a bank safe smashed beyond repair, during break-ins at Cassie’s office and home (early 2013). No charges laid by police.

 

 

Observations by Cassie, her parents, their friends, and her friends. The girls’ fear of his anger. Inappropriate discipline eg taping fingers together to prevent nose-picking; allowing an insect to die slowly in a sealed jar over several days and forcing the girls to observe this cruel dying process

(Child Abuse Solutions, Inc. No. 27) Serious questions are raised here about the propriety of the ICL’s conduct
 

 

 

 

7. Michael Watter was not an involved father in the twins’ pre-school years, was sometimes angry and abusive with the girls, and floundered as a single father when given sole custody in Dec 2011.

 

 

 

 

Testimony from Michael’s friends and supporters – Stephen and Sheree Heilbronn

 

8.         Michael Watter has neglected his daughters’ health and well-being and has exposed them to harm.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

9.         Michael has coached the twins to lie to the police

Weight loss, hunger at contact visits, Thrush, rectal bleeding

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Contact supervisors’ reports of what the twins tell Cassie about what Michael tells them to say to the police eg “It was a dream”

One contact supervisor hears one twin say “I’m sorry mummy, but Daddy told me to say you told me to tell the police”.

The twins appear happy at school and in the community with their father. It is not uncommon for victims of CSA to display no give-away signs of CSA in public http://www.communities.q ld.gov.au/resources/childsa fety/child-protection/child- sexual-abuse-brochure.pdf The “Stockholm syndrome” has been identified in relation to sexual assault:

Carver (2004) and https://rainn.org/get- information/effects-of- sexual-assault/stockholm- syndrome).

Here there is

clear evidence of Michael coaching the girls, in contrast to zero evidence of Cassie coaching the girls, and zero opportunity compared with Michael.

 

10.  Michael Watter is to be pitied as he has a bad, crazy wife who has stolen his children from him

 

 

 

11.  Michael Watter is to be pitied as he has a crazy wife who has levelled terrible allegations against him.

Multiple comments on the Help Find Isabella and Bronte Facebook page by Michael and many Facebook “friends”.

 

 

Michael Watter’s friends (Stephen and Sheree Heilbronn) expressed this view to Ros Thorpe, April 2014.

Michael’s vindictive approach to Family court litigation, effectively has denied Cassie even of shared custody of the girls

 

 

The disclosures by the twins of CSA perpetrated by Michael.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The single most important indicator of child sexual abuse is disclosure by the child to a trusted adult.

(Child Abuse Solutions, Inc No 25)

 

 

References

 

Becker H.S. (1963) Outsiders. NY: Free Press

 

Briggs F. (2013) Inappropriate behaviour of Townsville Child Protection Police in handling child sex abuse allegations in relation to 5 year old twin girls: Submission to the Queensland CMC. University of South Australia.

Brown, T.C., Hewitt, L., Sheehan, R., Frederico, M. (1998) Child Abuse & the Family Court, Australian Institute of Criminology, Trends and Issues Series, No 91, Australian Institute of Criminology, Canberra ACT Australia, pp1-6.

 

Carver J.M. (2004) Love and Stockholm Syndrome: The Mystery of Loving an Abuser. Counseling Resource. http://drjoecarver.makeswebsites.com/clients/49355/File/love_and_stockho…

 

Child Abuse Solutions, Inc. (nd) Fact Sheet: Child sexual Abuse in Custody Disputes http://www.childabusesolutions.com/child_sexual_abuse_fact_sheet.pdf Foote, W.L.(2006) Child Sexual Abuse Allegations in the Family Court. PhD thesis: University of Sydney.

Goffman E. 1963 Stigma:   Notes on the Management of Spoiled Identity. Prentice-Hall.

Hare R.D. (1993) Without Conscience: The Disturbing World of Psychopaths among Us. NY: The Guilford Press Manne A. (2014) The Life of I: The New Culture of Narcissism.   Melbourne: MUP.

Mowbray C.T., Bybee D., Oyserman D., MacFarlane P., and Bowersox N. (2006) Psychosocial Outcomes for Adult Children of Parents with Severe Mental Illnesses: Demographic and Clinical History Predictors. Health & Social Work Volume 31, Number 2

Ramsden K. (2013) Children’s perspectives on their own well-being: “I don’t think they can hear us”. Developing Practice Issue 36 pp18-30

 

Rape, Abuse and Incest National Network (nd) Stockholm Syndrome https://rainn.org/get-information/effects-of-sexual-assault/stockholm-syndrome

 

Schulz P.D. (2013) Are judges getting the full story through court ordered reports and investigations? A Critical Analysis of the Discourse of Disbelief in an allegation of child sexual abuse. University of South Australia.

 

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LEAK 38

Michael Watter , once again , you have been called out for sexually abusing your twin daughters !

YET AGAIN your daughters disclose the fact that Daddy is touching their private parts and then you have the cheek to refer to the disclosures as “ allegations “ . Your daughters disclose again that you are tickling their private parts and that they are made to tickle yours ! It is a terrible way of putting it “ tickling “ — just sounds so innocent doesn’t it Michael ? The damage you have done to your children for the rest of their lives is UNFORGIVEABLE ! The children continue to expose your sexual abuse whist you continue with your quest of self gratification — DISGUSTING little man !
It is again discovered that the children’s vaginas are red , sore and inflamed ! Not the first time is it Michael ! In fact this has happened on numerous occasions ! HOW MANY TIMES have you used your children like this Michael Watter ?

PUBLICLY RE INVESTIGATE THIS CASE !!!

This is a statement by Arthur E Doubleday.
9th Dec 11. In Rockhampton. Cass phoned to advise that court had removed girls to Michael’s care. Court claimed that Cass attempted to ‘set Michael up’ with the help of others.
10th Dec 11. Arrived home with new van. Cass completely devastated.
11th Dec 11. Cass & Heather to markets to see girls. No designated supervision (NDS) by Michael but Rotarians with Cass & girls. 5.45pm Isabella phoned very upset that Daddy very angry.
Sat 17th Dec 11. Cass had access visit with girls at Relationships Australia. Bronte made revelations that Daddy is touching their private parts still.
25th Dec 11 Michael came over with the girls. Says he is not happy with the girls being separated from their mother but considers it necessary until it is established why they are making allegations against him. Has Jorgan (Michael’s doctor friend from Brisbane & who told Michael that he should not have the girls full time) speaking to Cassie regarding the girls missing her. NDS.
27th Dec 11. Michael bought girls over for two hrs. Says Isabella told him that Cassie was going to take them to a women’s shelter until they had enough money to buy a home of their own. I said that it would have been an attractive option at the time that they were suffering your violence. Cass had told us that she had thought about going to a women’s shelter but had decided it would be better if she asked us if she could come here which she did. NDS
1st Jan 12. Isabella & Bronte rang & again when the girls start on general conversation they are cut off. They often phone back then are very guarded about what they say. Both girls fretting for Mummy and wanting to come home.
2nd Jan 12. Cherie from Bundaberg and the girls god mother, arrives. Mick brought girls over for a few hours Juan did not want to continue supervision and Mick said that I had made a racial slur about his skin colour which, of course is absolute nonsense and untrue. Mick asked a lot of questions about the value of items we owned ie car, tyres, what model no’s, how much etc? No talk of what might be the best for the girls so I suggested that it would be good if the girls learnt how to swim. He agreed but didn’t say when this might occur. Mick is totally ignoring the court order that asks that all parties work together for the benefit of the children. Mick accepted 2 beers but did not get involved in general conversation, at all even when the girls prompted responses from Dad on several occasions. Very disappointing. He ended up saying that Juan was not offended by anything I said. He just did not want to get involved in taking sides. Again it is not what the court is suggesting that it should be about the girls. All else should be put aside. (NDS)
3rd Jan 12. Mick brought girls over and they played games with Auntie Cherie and Mum while Mick watched cricket. They stayed for lunch & all seemed to be OK. NDS.
4th Jan 12. Twins Birthday 28 children plus parents expected, Birthday party organized by Cassie & Cherie 22 children Plus parents attended party from 4.00pm – 6.30pm and everybody happy. When the girls were leaving, Michael said to Cassie, ‘Trying to buy their love with ‘I’pods?’ this upset Cassie very much and she cried for a couple of hours. During the afternoon, Mick admitted that he had lied in court. He had contributed nothing what ever to the cost of the party. He was reasonably friendly to us and stayed for dinner, drank two glasses of wine. I came into the house at one stage and Mick was crying, I asked him what the problem was and he said that he was sick of all this nonsense, I said that it could be stopped as you have the power to stop it. Mick said. ‘How?’ my reply was that he should have lunch one day at a pub to discuss the situation and he said that he would like that as he is suffering from severe depression. Heather & I also offered to take the girls any day whilst Cassie was at work, assuring Mick that we would not allow Cassie home while the girls were here. He ignored our offer to have the girls and did not respond. The confession of suffering depression does not surprise me as Mick’s moods change in a flash. This behaviour has been noted over the past few years and has been discussed by ourselves with concern and thought that he may be suffering from schizophrenia or a psychiatric problem. It is worrying to know that the girls are locked up in this dangerous situation. The girls have become introverted and are still making disclosures of a serious nature. These violent behavioral problems of Michael’s are the very reason that the marriage failed. NDS
8th Jan 12. Mick brought girls over approx 2 -2.30pm for a couple of hours. Michael was very subdued and quiet. Looked worried and spoke little. Accepted a soft-drink. Very strange as I could not connect with him at all. Girls seemed to be OK. NDS
10th Jan 12. Mick brought girls over for 3hrs. He had 3 beers and dinner, Very friendly. Said that he could not mow the lawn as he no one to watch the girls. I offered to have them anytime and ensured that Cassie would not be present at any time whilst the girls were in our care. He made no comment at all re the offer. Mick revealed, again, that he suffers from depression and has done for some years. I offered my sympathy. He also complained that the girls wake at 6.ooam every morning and he is not used to this as it normally takes him ½ to ¾ hr to wake up. Strange to say this when he claimed that he was the girls primary carer since their birth. There is no daoubt that being the primary carer is to much for Mick to handle. Girls very quiet and would not talk when spoken to just put their heads down. NDS
12th Jan 12. Mick brought girls over. He very quiet, spoke little, accepted one beer and left without buckling up the girls seat-belts. Just drove out, Very moody, never spoke to the girls mother or grandmother. Again we offered to baby-sit the girls while Cassie was at work but did not acknowledge the offer or reply. Very moody and strange. Earlier I had been out having the van serviced when Mick first arrived and when I came in, I parked the van down the back just behind the pool and as I walked past to say ‘Hello’. Cassie & Isabella were sitting on the step with Bronte nearby in the water. I was standing behind them about to speak when Cass Asked the girls if they had had a sleep before they had come over. Isabella said, ‘Yes! Bronte slept in our room and I had to go into Daddy’s room and sleep with him he tickled my private parts and I had to tickle his.’ Cass changed the subject and asked Bronte if she had a good sleep. Bronte said that Isabella had to go into Daddy’s room with him and I had to sleep in my own room. NSD
15th Jan 12. Mick and the girls arrived at 8.45am and had not had breakfast. Both girls crying and Isabella said that she didn’t want to live with Daddy anymore as he is too angry. I cooked breakfast on the Barbie for everyone, including Mick. The girls were crying when they left. Mick never said ‘goodbye’ to anyone, just jumped in the car and drove off. Very concerned an so worried for the girls. Did not mention my concerns to Heather or Cassie. Mick clearly has a serious anger problem and is not handling full time care of the girls at all. On Jan 4th I offered to talk with him when he was upset. He had liked the idea and said that he would ring and arrange lunch. He still has not rung. Strange. NDS.
16th Jan 12. Went to lawyers with Cass to discuss contravention breaches by Michael. ie. ‘Mummy, Daddy says that you don’t want us anymore. Isabella has made several disclosures to Cassie, Heather and me, of sexual interference to her by her father. Cassie is devastated as she cannot report these disclosures, which is extremely upsetting. We are all at a loss as to know what to do. Bronte said that Daddy doesn’t like you or your family and we shouldn’t either. Very hard to take.
17th Jan 12. Mick and girls over. Girls very unhappy. Heather cooked dinner and gave some to Mick. He also had a glass of wine. Quiet and moody and no goodbyes of thank you when leaving, just into the car with girls and drove off. NDS.
19th Jan 12. Mick brought girls over at 4.30pm. Once again girls complained of sexual interference by Daddy. The girls saying that Daddy put one of them in the girls room and the other has to go to Daddy’s room and he tickles their private parts while they tickle his. Once again Heather and Cassie devastated. Heather cried until after midnight and Cassie beside herself sobbing for hours. We don’t know how to tackle this problem with the current court orders in place. NDS
20th Jan12 Rang Brisbane for guidance on girls disclosures. Directed to Relationships Aust. Have and appointment in Feb. Also advised of grandparents access rights. Have a copy of legislation. Will discuss with Mick. Have asked twice to date with no response. Do not know why Mick will not grant us access visits.
22nd Jan 12. Sent text to Mick inviting him and girls for breakfast b-b-q. They arrived at 8.40am and left approx 12-12 :30pm. Again no thanks or acknowledgement for food or drinks. Was skiting about how good it was to be single and enjoying life, at present while girls are looking very jaded and are becoming more introverted as they won’t speak to Nan or Pop for some reason. They were so happy and friendly prior to the court order giving Michael sole custody. Girls upset though when it is time to leave. Obvious that they miss their Mum. NDS
23rd Jan 12. I am doing radio ‘sked’ while Heather & Cassie have gone to Hermit Park school for the girls first day at school. All went well for the girls.
24th Jan 12. Isabella rang Cassie as she wanted her Mum to meet her at the school gate as she had something important to tell her. Cass unable to go to school without Mick’s approval. She told Isabella that she would be seeing her this afternoon. They met at Willows where Mick allowed Cass and girls to shop on their own and Cass bought the girls new school bags. Mick arrived at our place, on his own. When asked where the girls were, his reply was that they are with Cassie and will be home soon. When they arrived, we all had tea and then Cass and the girls went for a swim where Isabella dirtied her pants again. This has happened several times since she has been in Michael’s care and she has been toilet trained since just before she turned two. After showering Isabella came out to the lounge room without underwear and it was very visible to me that her private parts were very red and inflamed. Later Cassie confided in me that both girls had said that Daddy had been playing with them and Bronte said that Isabella is sore but she was not. Extremely disturbing. Don’t know what to do with the current court order in place. NDS
25th Jan 12. Cassie extremely worried about girls’ safety and so are we. We this that we will stay home for the week instead of going to the Burdekin.
26th Jan 12. Cassie and friend went to Riverway and spent 4hrs with the girls while Mick played cricket. Came home crying as the girls had made further shocking disclosures about Mick’s sexual interference with them and cannot report them. She cried all night. I don’t know what to do!!! Very upsetting!!! NDS but her friend a mature age 2nd year med student.
28th Jan 12. Received a phone call from Mick. He wanted to talk to me. He arrived about 11ish. He brought 2 six packs of cold beer. I thought that we were discussing depression. He also brought a copy of the court order and the 40 odd pages of the findings. Again he did not mention his depression. He was very friendly but strange and seemed to want me to criticise the magistrate’s ruling. I made it very clear that I accepted the ruling & we should both be abiding by it by putting the girls well-being and interests first. He said that the girls were missing their mother badly and I suggested that maybe he should engage a psychologist of his choice to assist the girls to adjust. He flatly refused saying he would not do that as it would serve no purpose. He became agitated. I then suggested that he and Cassie should have tasks and maybe share custody as per the court ruling on 7 days notice to do so. His reply was that it will never happen and became visibly upset. He then claimed that Cassie had taken photos of Isabella’s private parts on the day we saw her all red and sore. (To my knowledge Cassie had not taken a photo but Isabella had jumped up onto the lounge beside me where I noticed how her private parts were red raw and sore. I don’t know what the girls said to Cassie but she cried all night that night.) While laughing, Mick denigrated all medical staff, psychologist, pediatrician and counselors associated with Cassie and the girls. Mick is clearly putting a case together to prevent Cassie from gaining access to the girls at the mention on 21st Feb. This is not in the best interest of the girls. Mick left very unhappy. I don’t know why? He appeared frightened and extremely agitated. He agreed to bring the girls over for breakfast. I had also suggested to Mick that he and Cassie should have taken Isabella to the doctor. He said never. There was nothing wrong with her. I disagreed. This visit appears to be a breach of the DVO order on Michael. Cass received an e-mail from Mick saying that there would be no further access visits by him as a supervisor whatsoever, effective immediately as he had to protect himself. Again Cassie confused and upset.
5th Feb 12. Heather & I visited the girls and Michael at the house at 20 Oldenberg Place. The girls were all giggly at the door and then disappeared. They had gone into their bedroom and wanted us to find them. Mick called me outside and again questioned me re the findings of the court, Child Safety and the Police. I said again that Heather & I accepted the court ruling and were abiding by it. Mick refused to allow access for Heather & myself as the risk was to great and he had to protect himself. I have no idea what he is talking about. I explained that Heather & I had no interest in interfering in the family split and all we wanted was to be able to spent time with our grandchildren but he kept on pressuring by asking questions that had nothing to do with access for ourselves. He kept saying that he had to protect himself. When I mentioned the deep depression he was suffering from, he started to cry, went very pale and started shaking. He refused to discuss the matter. Very strange. Mick had taken the girls to Brisbane early in Jan and he revealed that he never took the girls to visit their grandmother or grandfather (his parents) whilst in Brisbane. Seems odd. Now that access for us has been stopped, the girls have no access to any family member at all. They see their mother under supervised access for two hours each week and that is it. No access to uncles, aunties or cousins etc. which occurred each Sunday morning over a b-b-q breakfast which Mick seemed to enjoy. Mick is an only child who was raised with out his father. His mother has serious mental problems. We worry about our grandchildren having no contact with family at all. Only Mum for 2hrs per week supervised. Very strange. Mick says that is in the best interest of the children and that he has to protect himself.
This is a statement by Arthur E Doubleday.

 

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LEAK 36

So , now , out of nowhere , enter the Heilbronns !

Imagine people arriving at your house to tell you how to run your life when you have only ever met them briefly ! These same people then proceed to issue threats and abuse at an elderly couple telling them their grandchildren would be removed from the custody of their daughter and given to foster parents if there were further reports made to the police or Child Safety ! The threatening continues with the Heilbronns stating that the children should be given into the custody of the father Michael Watter to prevent said action occurring !
Who in the HELL do these people think they are ? They certainly seem to think they are omnipotent and show NO consideration for the Doubledays or their grandchildren ! We already know their feelings for Cassie ! They appear to think they have a great deal to say on what would happen with the children and we firmly believe this fact needs to be investigated further by the authorities when a RE INVESTIGATION is carried out ! Disgusting pair of individuals , so full of themselves , that they feel they can say or do as they please and get away with it ! There is more to come here good people !
The grandfather at all times has been civil to Michael Watter , something , which under the circumstances , we would not have been !
Read the letter good people and judge for yourself !

TO WHOM IT MAY CONCERN

Dear Sir/Madam,

This statement serves to confirm that Mr Steven & Mrs Sherie Heilbronn arrived at our residence at approximately 4.30pm on Saturday 8th October 2011 to speak with Heather & myself. We had met these people briefly about 18mths ago at a local restaurant and another time at a rugby game but do not know them well at all.

On return from the girls’ access visit that morning (before which it took Cassie 30mins to convince the girls to leave, with Isabella asking to speak to Carolyn Seri as a ‘safe person’.) the girls reported that they had not, in fact, gone to the beach as their father had promised them, but had been taken to the Heilbronn’s house. Isabella reported that Michael had ‘asked her about Mummy’. She also said that the girls would now be spending ‘two days with Daddy, and two days with Mummy’. She was asked how long a day was, and she said ‘like today’. She was asked who said this and she said ‘Daddy’. She was asked where and she said ‘at Mrs Sherie’s house’. (They had been with Michael for 3 hours). Cassie (unknown to us then) had sent a text message to both Michael and Sherie asking that they do not have custody discussions with the girls as it was not an appropriate discussion to have with 4yo children. She had also said to Sherie that she understood that Sherie would support Michael as his friend, but to please not involve the girls.

Steven and Sherie were invited into our home and immediately started a sustained verbal attack on ourselves and our daughter, Cassie Watter. Isabella & Bronte were having their afternoon sleep in their room at this time. Sherie read out the text message to us and said she would never have that discussion with the girls. Cassie said ‘thank goodness’. Sherie then kept saying that the text message proved that Cassie was making things up. Cassie tried to explain but they kept interrupting so she stopped.

The main reason for their visit, however, appeared to be to convince us, as Cassie’s parents, that Cassie and the girls should return to be with Michael, Cassie’s husband. This theme was supported by threatening three times that the next time that Child Safety or the police were involved that the Agency would remove the girls from Cassie and have them placed into foster care and the only way to prevent this from happening was for the girls to return to live with Michael.

When asked about Michael’s violent verbal, bullying and mental abuse they both replied that this was just normal behaviour in all households. Of course we strongly disagreed and asked them to look around to find if there were any holes punched in our walls.

Sherie kept saying to Cassie that the only reason that the girls were reporting anything was because she was ‘promoting it’. Her examples of this included that the school had been asked to do a protective behaviour conversation with the class. Cassie kept denying that she was in any way promoting that type of conversation with the girls.

When Michael had been asked about Michael’s financial support for his family, the reply was that Cassie and the girls should not have left the family home. Heather & I are pensioners and not wealthy people. Cassie is receiving Centrelink support and we are managing okay financially. Michael was asked to help financially in a discussion a few weeks ago to which both myself and Ridley Plaisted (a house guest of ours at the time) witnessed – and he and bluntly refused saying that they should return home immediately.

We also pointed out to Steven and Sherie that Cassie has been attending counselling for domestic violence since 2009 in an effort to save the marriage but these counselling sessions have not had any effect on Michael’s adverse behaviour. In fact he had refused to attend more than a couple of sessions.

At this stage Steve and Sherie became very angry and Steven threatened Cassie that he would tell us something. Sherie said ‘no don’t’. Steven then told us that Cassie had been abused by her older brother for most of her childhood and that we needed to discuss this. He then said that we, as Cassie’s parents had failed her by not having much to do with the girls in the first two years of their life and that perhaps we needed to discuss this as a family as well. (This statement is quite untrue but we elected to only visit when Michael was not home – which was most of the time. The reason being that Michael made us very aware of the fact that we were not welcome. We had encouraged Cassie at a couple of points to leave Michael due to his aggressive and violent behaviour, as well as the fact that he did not assist with the girls or around the house, but she stated she was going to keep trying to work on the relationship. It was not an easy decision to not go there but we felt it was in the best interest of Cassie and the girls.) After Steven said this Cassie seemed to go in on herself and just nodded to everything they said. Steven started saying that Cassie had told him that Michael has schizophrenia and that he had offered to get him counselling.

At this stage Isabella started crying loudly in her room. We assume she had woken up and come down the hall and was upset by the conversation that was occurring. Cassie begged Steven and Sherie ‘please go outside’ and ran down the hall to comfort Isabella. Steven and Sherie did not leave even then. Cassie called down the hall to say that they could hear everything in the girls’ room and asked them again to please go outside. Again they did not do this. I then ordered them to leave the premises, which they reluctantly did, stating on the way out that the girls would be placed in foster care within a week. They said they were going to ‘take action’ but did not say what this would be. They told us that ‘Cassie has a problem’ and that she ‘needs help’.

Even after all of this Cassie still initiated a call from the girls to Michael that night to say goodnight.

We have ourselves seen how distressed Cassie is after the girls disclose something of a sexual nature to her. She does not display this in front of the girls, but waits until they are safety playing outside with us. We (and our house guests) have also never heard Cassie mention anything like this in front of the girls – or in any way ‘promoting it’. She has also never said anything negative about their father to them. In fact she seems to spend most of her time ‘talking him up’ to assist them in not being distressed by his visits. On one of these visits my wife witnessed the level of distress that can occur on Michael taking the girls. They were hysterical for over 30 mins and in the end they had to be peeled off Cassie to be put in their father’s car, with them screaming things like ‘please mummy don’t make me go’ and ‘please mummy I love you very much’. Michael was requested by Cassie to play with the girls in our house until they calmed down and were less distressed by leaving and he refused. Both Cassie and my wife were obviously distraught after this incident. I myself had heard Cassie telling the girls all morning that it was ‘their special day with Daddy’ and that ‘they would get to see how their garden had grown’ etc etc etc with them still saying that they didn’t want to go with Daddy because he was scary.

Heather and I took Cassie to the Domestic Violence Resource Centre to take out a D V O against Michael and his friends to prevent this from happening in the future as these sorts of events are extremely upsetting for all concerned especially the girls. Although we had encouraged her to do so before, she had stated that it was safer now that they had left the house and she was living with other people. However now she realised that she also needed to protect the girls and herself, but that we also need protection from both Michael and his friends. Steven had already been asked via Cassie’s solicitor to not contact her any more due to text messages he had sent threatening to email us, department of Communities etc and ‘disclose her abuser’. It appears that they received this information from Michael. Cassie reported to us that Michael had told her he felt he had every right to tell people this.

The D V O does not prevent Michael from coming tour home to pick up the girls for access visits in fact, Michael was told, at the very beginning of the separation, that he was welcome to visit the girls at any reasonable time. All he had to do was phone to check that we were home and that the girls were not asleep.

The department is welcome to visit our home at any time unannounced to check on the welfare and safety of the girls.

Yours sincerely

Arthur E Doubleday

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LEAK 34

 

The father Michael Watter AGAIN exhibits his total lack of care or concern for the children to the extent that he reports the mother for doing exactly that ! Even the child safety officer who shows bias against the mother in her dealings with Cassie notes that Cassie has done everything within her power to maintain a good relationship between the girls and their father and noted the fact that she , McNulty , believed this was working . McNulty does however trivialise the children’s ill health in the belief that it is a “tit for tat game “between Cassie and Michael Watter . It is her job to PROTECT the children !

 

Note once again the care and concern shown by Cassie towards her girls at all times .Note the report that Cassie was scared of Michael Watter and his anger ! It is also a given that his personal priorities come first ALWAYS ! One would expect in a husband and wife relationship that each partner would know where the other partner is at any given time and it is NOT customary in a relationship for one of the partners to sleep out at night only returning in the morning . Not even a disclosure as to the fact that he , Michael Watter , would not be home that evening .Michael Watter would make some good lady a wonderful husband one day in the future , assuming he marries a woman you does NOT care what he does , assuming he marries a woman who likes being beaten , assuming he marries a woman who loves being threatened , assuming he marries a woman who loves being shouted at and assuming he marries a woman who likes being raped !

 

To whom it may concern

I went along as a ‘support person’ for the interview between Cassie Watter and Merle McNulty from the Child Safety Office in Thuringowa on the 13th October 2011. The interview was held because Michael Watter’s friends had made certain allegations against Cassie. Allegations by Michael’s friends included things such as:

 

  • That on several occasions at his friend’s parties, Cassie had ‘felt the girls’ foreheads, said they were sick and took them home.
  • That Cassie took them to emergency/doctor’s too many times (Cassie offered to show the girls’ medical records from the Family GP as she had already requested them from the GP for the interview).
  • That at one time Michael had visited Cassie’s current residence, and there were ‘a lot of people around’ (including her brother – but they did not know which brother) and someone had made a negative comment to Michael.)  Cassie had not been aware of this exchange, and neither had her friend, Cherie, who was visiting from Longreach at the time.

 

Ms McNulty mentioned she felt that these allegations were trivial or something similar and it appeared to be the result of a ‘tit for tat’ game. She also said that the Child Safety department had more important things to do and would not have had this interview if there hadn’t already been an open case in regards to Bronte and Isabella due to the report from their child psychologist in regards to their father.

 

She stated that she could tell just by looking at Isabella that she has had a very long road and that even though she was the dominant twin that she was more fragile girl.

 

Ms McNulty also stated that she felt sure that Cassie was doing her very best to see the relationship between Michael and the daughters was improving. She also stated that ‘this was working’.

 

Personally, I have made some observations as per Cassie’s relationship with her daughters:

 

  • She is the primary caregiver. She was always interacting with them and ‘was there’ for them and taking care of their needs.
  • Cassie understands her children’s health and well being very well. She knows when to take them to the doctor and when they just needed time to rest and get better. She is a thoughtful and concerned mum, without being ‘over anxious’ for their welfare.
  • In these last 6 months she has been very happy with the improvement in their health.

 

 

 

On several occasions Cassie has told me:

 

  • She is afraid of Michael, as he has an anger problem and due to this she has been subjected to verbal and emotional abuse.
  • In cases, when there were misunderstandings amongst friends, Michael has always sided with his friends and not Cassie’s. He is always out to impress these friends.
  • Cassie has told me that few times Michael did not help around the house and with the girls, so she could not go out unless she got a paid babysitter.
  • Many a times she has reported to me that Michael would go out with his friends and just not come back home until the following day. There would be no communication with her or the girls about his whereabouts until he was back home the next day.
  • Cassie rang me about 5-6 months ago to tell me that the girls had a very negative reaction to their father. Because this continued even though she did everything she could to improve their relationship with their father, it was for this reason she decided to finally separate from Michael and leave the ‘family home’ with the girls in August.

 

Last year, on Cassie’s birthday on the 3rd October I held a party for her at my house. At that time I did not notice Michael interacting with the girls at all. In fact when I asked Cassie to stay behind a little longer, the girls became very upset and refused to go home with Michael. Cassie had to leave early with them to have them in bed at a reasonable hour.

 

A few weeks ago, I heard Michael say that he has enrolled in parenting and anger management course, even though, ‘I don’t need it’.

 

When Cassie asked him if he was going to move out of the ‘family home’ so she could move in with the girls, Michael’s response was that he would not do it until he found out how much child support he would have to pay and would not entertain making custody arrangements until the property was settled.

 

Michael also admitted that the girls were hysterical on being left in his care months prior to the separation.

 

 

 

Savvy Francis JP (Qualified)

 

The authorities need to RE INVESTIGATE this case !

 

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To whom it may concern

 

I went along as a ‘support person’ for the interview between Cassie Watter and Merle McNulty from the Child Safety Office in Thuringowa on the 13th October 2011. The interview was held because Michael Watter’s friends had made certain allegations against Cassie. Allegations by Michael’s friends included things such as:

 

  • That on several occasions at his friend’s parties, Cassie had ‘felt the girls’ foreheads, said they were sick and took them home.
  • That Cassie took them to emergency/doctor’s too many times (Cassie offered to show the girls’ medical records from the Family GP as she had already requested them from the GP for the interview).
  • That at one time Michael had visited Cassie’s current residence, and there were ‘a lot of people around’ (including her brother – but they did not know which brother) and someone had made a negative comment to Michael.)  Cassie had not been aware of this exchange, and neither had her friend, Cherie, who was visiting from Longreach at the time.

 

Ms McNulty mentioned she felt that these allegations were trivial or something similar and it appeared to be the result of a ‘tit for tat’ game. She also said that the Child Safety department had more important things to do and would not have had this interview if there hadn’t already been an open case in regards to Bronte and Isabella due to the report from their child psychologist in regards to their father.

 

She stated that she could tell just by looking at Isabella that she has had a very long road and that even though she was the dominant twin that she was more fragile girl.

 

Ms McNulty also stated that she felt sure that Cassie was doing her very best to see the relationship between Michael and the daughters was improving. She also stated that ‘this was working’.

 

Personally, I have made some observations as per Cassie’s relationship with her daughters:

 

  • She is the primary caregiver. She was always interacting with them and ‘was there’ for them and taking care of their needs.
  • Cassie understands her children’s health and well being very well. She knows when to take them to the doctor and when they just needed time to rest and get better. She is a thoughtful and concerned mum, without being ‘over anxious’ for their welfare.
  • In these last 6 months she has been very happy with the improvement in their health.

 

 

 

On several occasions Cassie has told me:

 

  • She is afraid of Michael, as he has an anger problem and due to this she has been subjected to verbal and emotional abuse.
  • In cases, when there were misunderstandings amongst friends, Michael has always sided with his friends and not Cassie’s. He is always out to impress these friends.
  • Cassie has told me that few times Michael did not help around the house and with the girls, so she could not go out unless she got a paid babysitter.
  • Many a times she has reported to me that Michael would go out with his friends and just not come back home until the following day. There would be no communication with her or the girls about his whereabouts until he was back home the next day.
  • Cassie rang me about 5-6 months ago to tell me that the girls had a very negative reaction to their father. Because this continued even though she did everything she could to improve their relationship with their father, it was for this reason she decided to finally separate from Michael and leave the ‘family home’ with the girls in August.

 

Last year, on Cassie’s birthday on the 3rd October I held a party for her at my house. At that time I did not notice Michael interacting with the girls at all. In fact when I asked Cassie to stay behind a little longer, the girls became very upset and refused to go home with Michael. Cassie had to leave early with them to have them in bed at a reasonable hour.

 

A few weeks ago, I heard Michael say that he has enrolled in parenting and anger management course, even though, ‘I don’t need it’.

 

When Cassie asked him if he was going to move out of the ‘family home’ so she could move in with the girls, Michael’s response was that he would not do it until he found out how much child support he would have to pay and would not entertain making custody arrangements until the property was settled.

 

Michael also admitted that the girls were hysterical on being left in his care months prior to the separation.

 

 

 

Savvy Francis JP (Qualified)

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LEAK 33

Once again ( and why are we not surprised ? ) Michael Watter is shown to be a selfish , self serving individual ! He cares not for the discomfort of his twin girls , nor does he care about their health and well being ! A continuous trail of selfishness ! Are your followers on this page reading all of this Michael Watter ? If they are ( and I am sure they are ) there will come a day when ALL the lies you have told them and all the deceptions you have carried out will suddenly land BANG at their feet and with the penny having finally dropped we would expect these same people to stand up and be counted when there is a PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION . Anyone who has two brain cells and is blindly supporting you without having read the LEAKS from beginning to end are a disgrace as they will see ALL and understand where we are coming from once they do read them ! Do NOT be scared –READ THEM good people ! Do not be like Michael Watter who has two brain cells – one of them is lost and the other one is looking for it !

The common thread of child sexual abuse is predominant here again . The common thread of lies from Michael Watter is abundant once again . The love and care shown by the mother in all these threads is apparent . The care and concern by Cassie for the children’s well being and health is obvious .

The children’s sexual abuse is horrific and one wonders how often these children have been sexually abused and by WHOM !! Don’t worry Michael Watter as we will be coming to that in a future LEAK !!

 

 

On Tuesday evening (6th September 2011) I was in the company of Cassie Watters and her two daughters Bronte and Isabella. Isabella had not been well and her antibiotic medication was left at The Cathedral Pre-Prep Centre.

The girls’ father picked them up after school and left Isabella’s medication behind.   It was not until after tea when Isabella said to her mother that “Daddy would not go back and get her medicine” to which Cassie replied “Never mind we can get some more, and if not, I will go to the school early in the morning and pick the medicine up.

Immediately after their father returned the girls to their mother, Cassie requested that I assist her in taking them to the GP as an ‘extra pair of hands’. Bronte was obviously unwell, with a bright red rash on most of her body, and hot to the touch. Bronte was diagnosed with a viral illness by the GP at My Family Doctors. After the doctors we went immediately to a late-night chemist so that Cassie could purchase some children’s panadol. Isabella asked if we could get her medicine too, and repeated that she had asked her father to return to school to get it for her. Cassie said that she would give Isabella some panadol until the morning.

Both girls were unwell and did not attend school the next day.

At no time did I hear Cassie belittle or say anything derogatory against the girls’ father in front of them.

On Monday 12th September 2011, Cassie requested that I be with her while she was bathing the girls. Cassie washed Bronte and Isabella, then they had fun playing and splashing in the bath.

Playing games consisted of selling the animal toys for some outlandish amounts of pretend money to Cassie and me. When all the animal toys were sold Bronte layed on her back, with Isabella laying tummy down on top of her sliding up and down in the bath. Cassie asked the girls ‘What are you doing’ and they said ‘the same as last night’. She then said ‘where did you get that from’ and they said ‘Daddy – it is our funny hugs’ and they both laughed. Cassie then redirected their play to the bath toys, pretending to sell them (toys) back to the girls.

We continued on playing games with the girls until it was time to get them out and into their pyjamas.

Friday 30/09/11

Sometime early in the afternoon Cassie said that Isabella would like to speak to me about her unhappiness regarding a visit with her Daddy later on. I talked with Isabella and did ask why she felt scared, and didn’t get any response, but she wanted Cassie to tell me what was wrong. When asked if it was about staying the night with Daddy, she said “yes” but did not give any reason why.

Later on Cassie asked Isabella (as she was still very withdrawn), if she would like to speak to another safe person. She did ask for Storm (who wasn’t available) and then Carolyn (who didn’t answer the phone the first time so a message was left for her to return the call). Carolyn did ring later on and Isabella was happy to talk to her, but not about her “uncertainties” for her not visiting Daddy. Isabella had a happy chat to Carolyn.

Before Michael arrived I was sitting on the couch near the back door with Cassie and Isabella. Isabella said “Can you please talk to Daddy about playing with my private parts?”   Both Cassie and I said “Pardon?” and Isabella repeated the question and Cassie said she would.

Cassie asked my husband Ridley and I to be with her and her daughters when their father arrived to take them for an overnight access visit.   This access visit was requested in less than the 24 hour period.

We were sitting with Cassie and her father on the front verandah when Michael arrived. The girls were out in the front garden with their Nana. Cassie told Michael that she needed to ask him for some information at Isabella’s request. Cassie asked Michael “Have you touched the girls’ private parts? It has been said that you have and that it was yours and their secret.” He just ducked his head, grunted and laughed.

Michael denied any knowledge of such behaviour and said that they are only little girls and they would say anything. Cassie explained that they are very knowing girls and explained that they did know the difference between boys and girls private parts, as they have associated with boys their age group at Riverview Child Minding Centre and Cathedral Prep Centre.   Cassie also explained that the girls have nightmares related to their access visits. Cassie told Michael about a bath time episode about while splashing around Bronte layed on her back in the bath, and Isabella layed tummy down on the top of her sliding up and down. Cassie asked the girls ‘What are you doing’ and they said ‘the same as last night’. She then said ‘where did you get that from’ and they said ‘Daddy – it is our funny hugs’. (I was with Cassie and the girls during this episode of behaviour). Arthur asked me “Is that true?” and I replied “Yes”.

After this confrontation Michael said “So what happens from here?” Cassie was explaining that the girls were seeing a child psychologist and he interrupted and said we should call the Child Safety Protection police to lodge a grievance and request them to speak both him and Cassie, to be told that they would ring back.

In the meantime the girls had been off with their grandmother to play ball in the garden.

Cassie, Michael, my husband Ridley and I moved out onto the back verandah. Arthur & Heather took the girls down to the back paddock. When the return call from the Child Safety Protection happened Michael put the phone on loudspeaker. Both Michael and Cassie were spoken to. Cassie was asked what had happened and she explained that she had finally got a copy of “Everybody’s got a Bottom” and the girls had really started saying some things that were worrying her. Cassie was asked, if the girls were living with her and she said “yes” but Michael was to have unsupervised access to the girls this weekend. The policeman told Cassie that if she felt the girls were at risk, she needed to remove them from the risk or take the risk from them.   Michael finally said “I won’t see them” and Cassie said “That would be good and would also protect Michael”.   Michael just shook his head.   Cassie asked the police officer who would the officer on Monday and was told it would be Rob Garnett. She said that would be good and explained that only Bronte had been interviewed by the Child Safety Protection previously and was really lovely with her. Isabella was never interviewed. The policeman at the end of the phone said that nothing could be done to sort Michael’s issue before Monday when the appropriate person is available and suggested that maybe the girls stay with the mother with whom they are living until then.

Michael did not leave straight away, but was asking Cassie what the girls had been saying and Cassie refused to tell him. Cassie also informed him that she hadn’t asked the girls any questions because she wasn’t allowed to. He said that was stupid but he kept harassing her until Cassie was reduced to tears. My husband Ridley suggested to both Michael and Cassie that enough was enough and Cassie agreed.

In the end Michael agreed to leave and they both went into the house. Michael left via the front door then went around the side of the house to the back paddock and found the girls with their grandparents. Isabella came back to the house running to her mother. Bronte stayed with her father while he was talking to Arthur in front of the vehicle. I did go out to the car and say to both Michael and Arthur nothing should be said in front of Bronte and then I went back inside.

 

I am unsure of the date.   After a visit to Carolyn the child psychologist I was in the company of Cassie and the girls when they went shopping.   This was a happy experience, with Cassie going through the toy department of Big W to buy them some play toys so that they had something of their own to play with at Nana and

Poppy’s place. They had a lot of fun choosing with Cassie’s help, fairy dolls, skipping ropes, toys for their dolls house etc. There was a lot of laughter.

After the shopping expedition we returned home and put the groceries away after which Cassie decided to go back to the house in Kelso and get some of the girls toys and desks and dolls house, as she had been given permission from her parents to make one of the spare bedrooms into a toy room for them.

Cassie told and Arthur what she wanted loaded into his Ford which was a large writing desks, a dolls house, some books and other small toys and games to make their playroom at Nana and Poppy’s home into a place of learning, writing, colouring, drawing or painting and playing games, where the girls would gladly play together, or enjoy doing their own thing.

My husband Ridley was also there with our vehicle and loaded it with some of Cassie’s belongings (mainly clothing) which did not fit into Arthur’s car.

Cassie left quite a few of the childrens’ toys and clothing behind so that there was something there of theirs for future visits with their father.   Colouring pencils and books that Michael had bought the girls since separation were left and Cassie certainly wasn’t in any way ruthless in clearing out the whole house to be spiteful.

 

I was in the company of Cassie and the girls a couple of occasions when they went shopping. Cassie purchased quite a few things for the girls because they had moved out of home and she was reluctant to take things from the previous house.

 On Saturday 8th October 2011 I was in attendance when Michael was picking up the Bronte and Isabella for an access visit. The girls had retreated to the swimming pool area as they did not want to go with their father. Cassie was with them trying to calm them. While Cassie and the girls were around the swimming pool, Michael came up to me and said “As you have been brought into this you need to know that I have been cleared by Child Safety. Were you told?”

He also said “The Child Safety said that the children could be taken away from both parents.”

I walked away from Michael and into the house as he was physically too close to me and he was visibly very angry.

Michael got Bronte and followed me.

Soon Cassie came in with Isabella. Isabella was still saying that she did not want to leave with her father even though Cassie was encouraging her by saying things like ‘I am sure you are going to have a lovely day’, ‘You are going to have a GREAT time at the beach’ etc.   Isabella said to Cassie that she was telling her ‘safe person’ (Cassie) and yet she was doing nothing to help her.   Isabella then asked to speak to Carolyn Seri (her child psychologist).

Michael heard this, shook his head and stormed out of the house with Bronte in his arms.   Isabella did speak to Carolyn and after a while agreed hesitantly to go. All three of us stood up from the couch and walked towards the front door. When we got there Isabella stopped again and repeated that she didn’t want to go.   Cassie picked her up and hugged her and again started telling her about the exciting morning at the beach she was going to have. Cassie carried Isabella to the car and clipped her in. Isabella just went silent and dropped her head.

Personally, I have found Cassie to be an excellent mother with her patience in dealing with the girls. Cassie is thoughtful and mindful of the childrens needs in a caring manner without being overbearing. I have been with Cassie when she plays games like snakes and ladders and then they make games of counting when Isabella is “hoola hooping” or skipping. Bronte loves her scooter and is not allowed on it until she has her helmet and safety knee pads on. Bronte puts the safety gear on by herself, but if has difficulty she is quick to ask for assistance. Since having the trampoline, she supervises their play and there is much laughter while they bounce up and down. The play sessions have always had a lot of love and laughter being shared around by the girls and their mother.

Cassie regularly reads to the girls and they both have their favourite books which they can just about read by themselves. The girls have a large map of the world on the wall and Cassie shows them where the different places which they talk about are. As Isabella has special dietry needs because of her allergies to certain foods I have seen Cassie and the girls cooking together to make special treats. Cassie sets a large mat on the kitchen floor with all the ingredients and pans for mixing and cooking with set out. They are guided by Cassie when and where to put the ingredients, to stir etc and put the mixture into the cooking utensils. Cassie purees and freezes vegies and adds them to everything the girls cook with her – even the cakes we saw them make. Cassie, of course, puts the pans in the oven for safety reasons.

The girls are taught how to look after their animals. Bronte said to my husband one day when he was getting water for the dog, “you need to tip the old water out before putting new water in there.”

Cassie is sensitive to the fact that Michael is the girls’ father. I have never heard her raise her voice to the girls, or on any occasion speak adversely about Michael to or in front of the girls. If the girls need discipline, they are given it strongly but lovingly, by being asked to have “time out” until they can behave. Generally their behaviour is very “normal” and they are a joy to be with.

When it is time for Michael’ access visit I have heard her always being encouraging and telling them that they will have a happy time with him.

When the girls return from access visits I have never seen Michael greet the girls with any demonstrative actions and there are certainly no hugs or kisses for the girls when saying “goodbye”. The girls are always happy to return back to Cassie and literally run to her on their return from their outings with their daddy and jump up on her to get their hugs.

The girls behaviour towards Michael is very hesitant and certainly not spontaneous and filled with happy anticipation. One night I was at the dining table with a group of people busy doing my crochet and Michael was close by with Bronte while she was finishing her tea.   Bronte kept on saying to her daddy in a soft voice “You have to have love in your heart Daddy”, to which there was no reply, just a grunting noise. Bronte repeated the sentence a couple of times and the reply was just the same, nothing and just a low grunting noise.

Signed:

(Mrs) Patricia Plaisted

 

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Letter of Offer to Tasmania Police via #WikiDetectives

Dear Sir/Madam ,

We are writing this letter with regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .

WikiDetectives has received a great deal of evidence relating to this matter and we firmly believe the evidence needs to be in the right hands .

Our investigators have been involved in this case for 3 months now . We have made contact and received information from concerned individuals and wish to now take this investigation to the next level so that we may reach finality on having this matter re investigated .

To date we have released most of “ TOP 50 LEAKS “ . There is still a great deal more evidence and disclosures that we are sifting through and attending to . We will NOT stop until there has been a public re investigation of this case and the anomalies attended to . When this is done and the mother and her twin girls  are home safe , will we stop our campaign !

This campaign has been released on Facebook , and Twitter . The information and evidence is also available on our website and much of it is still to be published !

We have already sent letters to the Prime Minister , the Australian Federal Police , Queensland Police , New South Wales Police , Western Australia Police , Northern Territory Police , Victoria Police and South Australia Police .

We have begun a petition to enable us to FREE THE MISSING TWINS and their mother , and said petition will be hand delivered to Mr. Turnbull, by WikiDetectives Chairman Timothy Holt in the coming weeks .

The father Michael Watter is and has been threatening Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook , both personally and via threats to personal mobile telephone numbers .

We , therefore , implore you , to contact the Chairman Timothy Holt on 1800 UNSEEN so that we may bring this matter to a conclusion .

Regards

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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Letter of Offer to South Australia Police via #WikiDetectives

Dear Sir/Madam ,

We are writing this letter with regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .

WikiDetectives has received a great deal of evidence relating to this matter and we firmly believe the evidence needs to be in the right hands .

Our investigators have been involved in this case for 3 months now . We have made contact and received information from concerned individuals and wish to now take this investigation to the next level so that we may reach finality on having this matter re investigated .

To date we have released most of “ TOP 50 LEAKS “ . There is still a great deal more evidence and disclosures that we are sifting through and attending to . We will NOT stop until there has been a public re investigation of this case and the anomalies attended to . When this is done and the mother and her twin girls  are home safe , will we stop our campaign !

This campaign has been released on Facebook , and Twitter . The information and evidence is also available on our website and much of it is still to be published !

We have already sent letters to the Prime Minister , the Australian Federal Police , Queensland Police , New South Wales Police , Western Australia Police , Northern Territory Police , Victoria Police and Tasmania Police .

We have begun a petition to enable us to FREE THE MISSING TWINS and their mother , and said petition will be hand delivered to Mr. Turnbull, by WikiDetectives Chairman Timothy Holt in the coming weeks .

The father Michael Watter is and has been threatening Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook , both personally and via threats to personal mobile telephone numbers .

We , therefore , implore you , to contact the Chairman Timothy Holt on 1800 UNSEEN so that we may bring this matter to a conclusion .

Regards

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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Letter of Offer to Victoria Police via #WikiDetectives

Dear Sir/Madam ,

We are writing this letter with regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .

WikiDetectives has received a great deal of evidence relating to this matter and we firmly believe the evidence needs to be in the right hands .

Our investigators have been involved in this case for 3 months now . We have made contact and received information from concerned individuals and wish to now take this investigation to the next level so that we may reach finality on having this matter re investigated .

To date we have released most of “ TOP 50 LEAKS “ . There is still a great deal more evidence and disclosures that we are sifting through and attending to . We will NOT stop until there has been a public re investigation of this case and the anomalies attended to . When this is done and the mother and her twin girls  are home safe , will we stop our campaign !

This campaign has been released on Facebook , and Twitter . The information and evidence is also available on our website and much of it is still to be published !

We have already sent letters to the Prime Minister , the Australian Federal Police , Queensland Police , New South Wales Police , Western Australia Police , Northern Territory Police   and Tasmania Police .

We have begun a petition to enable us to FREE THE MISSING TWINS and their mother , and said petition will be hand delivered to Mr. Turnbull, by WikiDetectives Chairman Timothy Holt in the coming weeks .

The father Michael Watter is and has been threatening Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook , both personally and via threats to personal mobile telephone numbers .

We , therefore , implore you , to contact the Chairman Timothy Holt on 1800 UNSEEN so that we may bring this matter to a conclusion .

Regards

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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Letter of Offer to Western Australia Police via #WikiDetectives

Dear Sir/Madam ,

We are writing this letter with regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .

WikiDetectives has received a great deal of evidence relating to this matter and we firmly believe the evidence needs to be in the right hands .

Our investigators have been involved in this case for 3 months now . We have made contact and received information from concerned individuals and wish to now take this investigation to the next level so that we may reach finality on having this matter re investigated .

To date we have released most of “ TOP 50 LEAKS “ . There is still a great deal more evidence and disclosures that we are sifting through and attending to . We will NOT stop until there has been a public re investigation of this case and the anomalies attended to . When this is done and the mother and her twin girls  are home safe , will we stop our campaign !

This campaign has been released on Facebook , and Twitter . The information and evidence is also available on our website and much of it is still to be published !

We have already sent letters to the Prime Minister , the Australian Federal Police , Queensland Police , New South Wales Police ,  Northern Territory Police , Victoria Police and Tasmania Police .

We have begun a petition to enable us to FREE THE MISSING TWINS and their mother , and said petition will be hand delivered to Mr. Turnbull, by WikiDetectives Chairman Timothy Holt in the coming weeks .

The father Michael Watter is and has been threatening Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook , both personally and via threats to personal mobile telephone numbers .

We , therefore , implore you , to contact the Chairman Timothy Holt on 1800 UNSEEN so that we may bring this matter to a conclusion .

Regards

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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Letter of Offer to NSW police via #WikiDetectives

Dear Sir/Madam ,

We are writing this letter with regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .

WikiDetectives has received a great deal of evidence relating to this matter and we firmly believe the evidence needs to be in the right hands .

Our investigators have been involved in this case for 3 months now . We have made contact and received information from concerned individuals and wish to now take this investigation to the next level so that we may reach finality on having this matter re investigated .

To date we have released most of “ TOP 50 LEAKS “ . There is still a great deal more evidence and disclosures that we are sifting through and attending to . We will NOT stop until there has been a public re investigation of this case and the anomalies attended to . When this is done and the mother and her twin girls  are home safe , will we stop our campaign !

This campaign has been released on Facebook , and Twitter . The information and evidence is also available on our website and much of it is still to be published !

We have already sent letters to the Prime Minister , the Australian Federal Police , Queensland Police ,  Western Australia Police , Northern Territory Police , Victoria Police and Tasmania Police .

We have begun a petition to enable us to FREE THE MISSING TWINS and their mother , and said petition will be hand delivered to Mr. Turnbull, by WikiDetectives Chairman Timothy Holt in the coming weeks .

The father Michael Watter is and has been threatening Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook , both personally and via threats to personal mobile telephone numbers .

We , therefore , implore you , to contact the Chairman Timothy Holt on 1800 UNSEEN so that we may bring this matter to a conclusion .

Regards

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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Letter of Offer to Alecomm Marney Poland-Morris via #WikiDetectives

Dear Marney,

I am writing this letter in regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .
WikiDetectives has received a great deal of evidence relating to this matter and we firmly believe the evidence needs to be in the right hands .

Our investigators have been involved in this case for 3 months now . We have made contact and received information from concerned individuals and wish to now take this investigation to the next level so that we may reach finality on having this matter re investigated .

To date we have released most of “ TOP 50 LEAKS “ . Evidence is still be examined and will be further released once we have confirmed authenticity .We will NOT stop until there has been a public re investigation of this case and the anomalies attended to . When the mother and her twin girls , are home safe , will we stop !

This campaign has been released on Facebook , and Twitter and will continue . The information and evidence is also available on our website .

We thank you for your current support as we know you are a strong advocate for child protection .

We have already sent a letter to the Prime Minister , the Federal Police , the Queensland Police , NSW Police , Northern Territory Police , Victoria Police , South Australia and Tasmania Police as well as  various news organisations .

We have begun a petition to enable us to FREE THE MISSING TWINS and their mother , and said petition will be hand delivered to Mr. Turnbull , by WikiDetectives Chairman Timothy Holt in the coming weeks .

The father Michael Watter has been threatening Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook , both personally and via threats to their personal mobile telephone numbers .

We , therefore , implore you , to ontinue pushing for a reinvestigation to this matter and for you to continue to share our posts .

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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Letter of Offer to Safe Kids International via #WikiDetectives

Dear Sir/Madam

We are writing this letter with regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .
WikiDetectives has received and is continuing to receive a great deal of evidence relating to this matter . We are checking the authenticity of said evidence and will continue to release same to the general public .

Our investigators continue to be involved in this case and having received information from concerned individuals  wish to now take this investigation to the next level so that we may reach finality on having this matter re investigated .

We will continue to release the LEAKS as and when they are received and we will NOT stop until there has been a public re investigation of this case and the anomalies attended to . When the mother and her twin girls , are home safe , will we stop !

This campaign has been released on Facebook , and Twitter and will continue . The information and evidence is also available on our website .

We thank you for your previous support of this campaign and would ask that you continue to share our posts to enable this campaign to remain in the public eye .

Please continue to promote the petition on your page as what you are doing commands a great deal of respect here in Australia . Said petition will be delivered to Malcolm Turnbull by Timothy Holt .

We have already sent letters to the Prime Minister of Australia , the Federal Police , the Queensland Police , NSW Police , Victoria Police , South Australia Police , WA Police and Northern Territory Police as well as various news organisations .

The father Michael Watter has threatened Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook , both personally and via threats to their personal mobile telephone numbers .

Regards

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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Letter of Offer Derryn Hinch via #WikiDetectives

Dear Derryn ,

We are writing again with regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .

WikiDetectives continues to receive a great deal of evidence relating to this matter which we are currently authenticating before release into the public domain via our facebook page , Twitter and Google .

Our investigators continue to be involved in this case and we will maintain our push for a reinvestigation of this matter .

Correspondence has already been sent to the Prime Minister , the Australian Federal Police , Queensland Police , New South Wales Police , Western Australia Police , Northern Territory Police , Victoria Police and South Australia Police . Various news organisations have also been contacted .

We ask for your exposure of this matter in Parliament so that the anomalies pertaining to this matter do not continue to be swept under the carpet .

The father Michael Watter has threatened Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook ,  personally and via threats to personal mobile telephone numbers .

We , therefore , ask that you take up this matter on our behalf and contact the Chairman Timothy Holt on 1800 UNSEEN to enable us to bring this matter to a conclusion in order that justice is seen to be done and the children and mother may come out of hiding to receive the counselling that is so desperately needed !

Regards

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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Letter of Offer to Steve Cannon Child Safety via #WikiDetectives

Dear Sir ,

We are again writing to you with regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .
WikiDetectives continues to receive evidence on this matter which we are authenticating before release to our facebook page , Twitter and Google .

We have written to you again because you have had direct dealings with this matter and in our opinion your handling of the case has been akin to a game of “pass the parcel in an Irish Pub “. We expect you to look into this matter and NOT to continue to sweep it under the carpet . We will NOT go away and will continue with this until the matter has been reinvestigated !

We have already sent correspondence to the Prime Minister , the Federal Police , the Queensland Police , The NSW Police , The WA Police , The Victoria Police , The South Australia Police , The Northern Territory Police and Tasmania Police as well as various news organisations

The father Michael Watter has previously threatened Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook , as well as via threats to their personal mobile telephone numbers .

We ask that you contact us so that we may bring this matter to a resolution to enable these children and their mother to receive the counselling they will so desperately need !

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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Letter of Offer to Mathew Lupi Director of Community Services via #WikiDetectives

Dear Mr. Lupi ,

We are again writing to you with regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .
WikiDetectives continues to receive evidence on this matter which we are authenticating before release to our facebook page , Twitter and Google .

We have written to you again because you have had direct dealings with this matter and in our opinion your handling of the case has been akin to a game of “pass the parcel in an Irish Pub “. We expect you to look into this matter and NOT to continue to sweep it under the carpet . We will NOT go away and will continue with this until the matter has been reinvestigated !

We have already sent correspondence to the Prime Minister , the Federal Police , the Queensland Police , The NSW Police , The WA Police , The Victoria Police , The South Australia Police , The Northern Territory Police and Tasmania Police as well as various news organisations

The father Michael Watter has previously threatened Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook , as well as via threats to their personal mobile telephone numbers .

We ask that you contact us so that we may bring this matter to a resolution to enable these children and their mother to receive the counselling they will so desperately need !

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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Letter of Offer to Queensland Police via #WikiDetectives

Dear Sir/Madam ,

We are writing this letter with regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .

WikiDetectives has received a great deal of evidence relating to this matter and we firmly believe the evidence needs to be in the right hands .

Our investigators have been involved in this case for 3 months now . We have made contact and received information from concerned individuals and wish to now take this investigation to the next level so that we may reach finality on having this matter re investigated .

To date we have released most of “ TOP 50 LEAKS “ . There is still a great deal more evidence and disclosures that we are sifting through and attending to . We will NOT stop until there has been a public re investigation of this case and the anomalies attended to . When this is done and the mother and her twin girls  are home safe , will we stop our campaign !

This campaign has been released on Facebook , and Twitter . The information and evidence is also available on our website and much of it is still to be published !

We have already sent letters to the Prime Minister , the Australian Federal Police , Tasmania Police , New South Wales Police , Western Australia Police , Northern Territory Police , Victoria Police and South Australia Police .

We have begun a petition to enable us to FREE THE MISSING TWINS and their mother , and said petition will be hand delivered to Mr. Turnbull, by WikiDetectives Chairman Timothy Holt in the coming weeks .

The father Michael Watter is and has been threatening Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook , both personally and via threats to personal mobile telephone numbers .

We , therefore , implore you , to contact the Chairman Timothy Holt on 1800 UNSEEN so that we may bring this matter to a conclusion .

Regards

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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Letter of Offer to Child Services via #WikiDetectives

Dear Sir ,

We are again writing to you with regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .
WikiDetectives continues to receive evidence on this matter which we are authenticating before release to our facebook page , Twitter and Google .

We have written to you again because you have had direct dealings with this matter and in our opinion your handling of the case has been akin to a game of “pass the parcel in an Irish Pub “. We expect you to look into this matter and NOT to continue to sweep it under the carpet . We will NOT go away and will continue with this until the matter has been reinvestigated !

We have already sent correspondence to the Prime Minister , the Federal Police , the Queensland Police , The NSW Police , The WA Police , The Victoria Police , The South Australia Police , The Northern Territory Police and Tasmania Police as well as various news organisations

The father Michael Watter has previously threatened Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook , as well as via threats to their personal mobile telephone numbers .

We ask that you contact us so that we may bring this matter to a resolution to enable these children and their mother to receive the counselling they will so desperately need !

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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Letter of Offer to Federal Police Australia via #WikiDetectives

Dear Sir/Madam ,

We are writing this letter with regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .

WikiDetectives has received a great deal of evidence relating to this matter and we firmly believe the evidence needs to be in the right hands .

Our investigators have been involved in this case for 3 months now . We have made contact and received information from concerned individuals and wish to now take this investigation to the next level so that we may reach finality on having this matter re investigated .

To date we have released most of “ TOP 50 LEAKS “ . There is still a great deal more evidence and disclosures that we are sifting through and attending to . We will NOT stop until there has been a public re investigation of this case and the anomalies attended to . When this is done and the mother and her twin girls  are home safe , will we stop our campaign !

This campaign has been released on Facebook , and Twitter . The information and evidence is also available on our website and much of it is still to be published !

We have previously sent correspondence to the Prime Minister , Queensland Police , New South Wales Police , Western Australia Police , Northern Territory Police , Victoria Police , Tasmania Police and South Australia Police as well as many news organisations

The father Michael Watter has threatened Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook , and via personal mobile telephone numbers .

We encourage you to contact the Chairman Timothy Holt on 1800 UNSEEN so that we may bring this matter to a conclusion to enable the mother and her children to come out of hiding and return to a life of normalcy and receive the counselling that will be so urgently needed .

Regards

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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#FreeMissingWatterTwins #PressStatement7

As previously advised we will NOT stop this campaign until a RE INVESTIGATION takes place into the obvious ineptitude AND corruption relating to this case .We have now broadened our exposure of this problem and await contact from the relevant authorities .

Michael Watter’s threats continue .

The children and their mother are still on the run !

Wouldn’t you be on the run considering the evidence already provided ?
Whilst all of you sit back and do NOTHING these poor children will remain in hiding when what is needed is URGENT help and counselling .
What are YOU Malcolm Turnbull doing about this disgrace ?
What are YOU the Federal Police doing about the RE INVESTIGATING this matter ?
What are YOU the media doing to expose this case other than to publish one sided reports from Michael Watter ?
How about publishing the truth for a change or is that too much to ask ?
What have you Judge John Coker done to rectify your misdeeds ?
By doing NOTHING you are ALL paedophile enablers !

RE INVESTIGATE

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#FreeMissingWatterTwins – Michael Watter Threatened Supporters – Press Statement 3

Michael Watter , the MASTER of lies and misinformation has posted on his “Help Find Isabella and Bronte page that we “ Supporters of the mother have started a website stating they have kept photographs of the girls genitals taken by the mother and that they are willing to share them. They have also published police interviews with my four year old children. “

He has also defamed one of the good ladies who has posted her analysis of him on the page — what a big brave man this pig is !

What he does not mention is that this , putrid , bullying . coward of a man , Michael Watter has the identical photographs of his child’s genitalia as we have and the reason being is they formed part of the case against him !

Unlike us who will keep this evidence for a future RE INVESTIGATION, he no doubt looks at them daily !

Ask him to tell you how INFLAMED , SWOLLEN AND RED THE LITTLE GIRL’ S VAGINA IS ? Forgot to mention that little fact Michael ?

He also doesn’t tell you HOW MANY times the children mention his sexual abuse in the interviews ! I wonder why ?

Perhaps have another look at the interviews and share them far and wide because believe me , that is exactly what I am doing !

Video one:
http://bit.ly/missing-twins-vid

Video Two
http://bit.ly/missing-twins-vid-2

Ask the little man how many times he blocked me on his page today ?

Ask him WHY he doesn’t share our page so his “ followers “ can see for themselves what the other side of the story is and make their own minds up !

We are open about it AND we share our evidence and we delete NO posts unlike Mr. Open And Honest Michael Watter !.

He spends his whole day blocking my posts on his page and I spend my whole day placing our links in places he cannot block them ! I even refer to his page so others can see both sides of the story .

I place the links on his page just to keep him on his toes — those toes used to be six feet long ! Now they are down to a few millimetres !

If this useless , pathetic , excuse for a human being , would sign the petition and share it then perhaps credence would be given to some of his lies and fairy tales AND if he calls for a public RE INVESTIGATION into this case instead of begging for his sexual toys to be returned to him then perhaps we would begin to believe him .

Filthy , child rapist that he is !

RE INVESTIGATE , FREE THE TWINS AND THE MOTHER CASSIE !!

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Does being a judge in the family court make one a paedophile enabler ? #Leak27 #WikiEXPOSED

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What does the below tell you about the judges in Townsville ? ALL cases of child sexual abuse in Townsville need to be RE INVESTIGATED ! How many of you mothers out there does this ring a bell with ?

RE INVESTIGATE all these PAEDOPHILE ENABLERS .

A Royal Commission is needed to do this ! WHY delay it any longer ? Talking about sexual abuse and the Family Court (inc Federal Magistrate’s court) Is most sexual abuse of women and children reported? What about when the abuser is the partner or father?

You might think that these are well known facts – but not when the Family Court become involved. Child Protection services, more often than not, become offender protection services. Mothers are immediately assumed to be vindictive, obsessed, and/or delusional when they and/or their child disclose sexual abuse by the husband or father.

In the case of child sexual abuse, the mother is usually accused of coaching the children to make disclosures – even when there is very solid third party evidence that abuse has taken place. The mother is placed in a no-win situation. If she doesn’t leave the abuser, the children are removed as she is not being a ‘protective parent’.

If reports are made, even if they are made by independent third parties (including health professionals), and the children are interviewed by the police and child safety in regards to these reports, the children are removed because of the emotional harm caused by the interviewers in the interview. EVEN WHEN THE CHILDREN STILL DISCLOSE ABUSE!

The family court often uses pseudo experts to decide on the ‘mental stability’ of the mother. For example, in one case, even the board of psychologists guidelines stated that someone who was posing as an ‘expert’ was not a clinical psychologist. The judge said that they were – so their evidence was accepted.

Family Court statistics show that 1/3rd of mothers are considered to be mentally unstable. Only 2% of fathers. How does this happen?

Well, as an example, in one case, a social worker determined that a mother was delusional and harmful to her children after only two one hour interviews. Standardised testing and evalutions of, and counselling with the mother by a leading psychiatrist, 2 psychologists and a victims of crime counsellor for periods up to five years were dismissed by child protection agencies and the court.

You may or may not be surprised that all professionals in the second group supported the mother as being sane and safe, and the father as being abusive and aggressive. Police decided that very detailed disclosures of sexual abuse by the 5yo children were just the result of a ‘dream’ that was caused by the mother. That the only reason the children were scared of their father was because the mother had told them to be. This even though there was a DVO in place, listing one of the children, and excruciatingly detailed disclosures of sexual abuse by the young children. A female police officer from the Child Protection and Investigation Unit bullied the children and actually said to one of them ‘this has never happened to you has it’. The little girl had just described their father’s actions down to the look on his face while he was sexually abusing them. How they had tried to protect each other from him. How he was happy with them instead of angry if they let him sexually abuse them. The police then handed the children back to the father’s sole custody.

The Family Court gag order prevents the naming of such officers and child safety workers who cause extreme emotional harm to the children and protected their offender. Who treat these little victims like liars. Can you imagine the courage and strength it would take a young child to tell a stranger, who is bullying them, what their father does to them? It is no wonder that the children broke down constantly through the interviews. No empathy was given though. The child was told in a brusque voice to ‘stop crying, take a deep breath, sit up straight and answer my question’.

The father has sole custody of these two young girls, and is now babysitting other young girls from their class. No warnings about him are allowed to be given. If they are, the reporter could face six months in jail and $250,000 fine.

Once again this is due to the family court gag order that prevents anyone from publicly discussing details of a case that will identify any of the parties to other people.

Many, including Hetty Johnson from Bravehearts, insist that this gag order protects paedophiles and rapists – not the victims. If the general public became aware of the offences to women and children ‘hidden’ by the family court, there would be a public outcry. It is much easier to keep the victims quiet and, even worse, place them in the sole control of their abuser.

I am going to list a few other cases – all Australian. All horrific decisions. All hidden away by the gagging of victims by the family court.

– One FC judge ordered two little girls to live with a convicted sex offender. The Judge said that the children would be safe during daylight hours, but ordered that a lock be put on their bedroom door and that they lock themselves in their room at night.

Firstly – when does abuse only happen at night? Secondly – why on earth is it the responsibility of two little girls to protect themselves from their father?

– 3 female Family Court judges ordered a three year old girl live with her father – who had TWO convictions of child rape.

– One mother walked into her 2yo daughter’s bedroom to find her husband giving her child oral sex. It was her word against his – and nothing happened. Many images of child pornography were found on the father’s computer – but it couldn’t be proven that he was the one who put them on – so nothing happened there either. The father did, however, end up in jail – for bestiality – the RSPCA charged him for having sex with animals. However, he got a reduced sentence of 3 months as it was considered that it would be harmful for his daughter to be without him for too long. It seems that it was more important in our court systems to protect animals than children. He has 50% custody of the girl, and because he chose to move town, the mother has to drive her daughter 1.5 hours each way to hand her to her abuser.

– In another case there was CCTV footage of a young boy obsessively trying to anally penetrate his younger brother (they were both under 5 years of age). When asked why he did that, he said ‘because that’s what Daddy does to me’. The FC determined that this sexualised behaviour was ‘normal’ and gave the father sole custody as the mother didn’t think it was normal. An expert in child development was ignored when they stated that the behaviour was far from normal. The FC have decided that this mother, a PHD professional, was delusional. She has been assessed by five psychiatrists in total now – all refusing to keep seeing her as they say there is nothing wrong with her. So she is being held in breach of the FC order – which states she has to keep seeing a psychiatrist.

Recently a European Human Rights Judge decreed that convicted child sex offenders have the right to parent their children. No mention at all was made of the UN convention of the rights of a child to be safe.

This is happening in Australia right now. The Royal Commission into child abuse refuses to touch it. Journalists are unwilling to report it – and why not – they could face jail if enough information is given to identify the case.

Much of this has been very hard to hear. But stories like this MUST be heard – because unless more people hear them, the problem will never be addressed.

I recommend you read Dragonfly Whispers by Beth Tinning. It can be downloaded for free. It gives the stories of ten women from Townsville who went through Family Court or Federal Magistrates Court right here. It will horrify you. I hope it horrifies you into action. I hope it gives you a very loud voice.

Because the victims are not allowed to speak. Please sign Petitions www.bit.ly/missingtwins

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What does it take to make these paedophile enablers accountable ? #Leak26 #WikiDetectives

Interesting LEAK this is . A letter written to The Director Commission for Children and Young People and Child Guardian LEAKED by a concerned civil servant since the publication started on this matter .

Facts pointed out :-

  • Doctors Rebecca McGowan and Kevin Arlett reported sexual abuse against Bronte by the father
  • Michael Watter was served with a Domestic Violence Order
  •  The judge John Coker awarded custody to the abusive father less than a month later
  • Sexual abuse by the father keeps happening !
  • Total lack of response to the report of sexual abuse to Child Safety .
  • Note lack of response by Steve Cannon of Child Safety to the reports of child sexual abuse .
  • Note the actions of ALL officials involved – NO ACTION , probably part of the fastest game in the world “PASS THE PARCEL IN AN IRISH PUB “

They just cannot get rid of the problem quick enough can they ? They just want to wash their hands of the whole matter by passing the problem on !

  • Rob Moelhoek , Assistant Minister For Child Safety – you were and are a DISGRACE !
  • Federal Member for Herbert Mr. Ewan Jones – you were and are a DISGRACE !
  • Merle McNulty , Child Safety Officer – you ARE a DISGRACE !
  • Magistrate John Coker –YOU are a PAEDOPHILE ENABLER !
  • Mathew Lupi , Director of Community Services – you are a DISGRACE !
  • Steve Cannon , Child Safety – YOU are a DISGRACE !
  • Child Safety – YOU are a bunch of PAEDOPHILE ENABLERS !

Every single one of you and the people you work with are a disgrace ! You are all paedophile enablers ! Thanks to you and your disgraceful inaction the father continued to rape his own daughters ! Thanks to all of you the mother had no choice but to run to safety to protect her children from further sexual abuse !Thanks to all of you the mother and her childrn remain in hiding ! Why don’t all of you stop and consider what your disgraceful actions , or should I say lack thereof , has done to these poor children and their mother ! You should all bow your heads in shame !Every single one of you make us sick to our stomachs !

PUBLICLY RE INVESTIGATE THIS MATTER

It is highly apparent that there are gross failings in the handling of this case !

Make these people accountable !

They must hide no longer !

Stop the cover up !

The Director

Commission for Children and Young People and Child Guardian

1st October 2012

Dear Sir/ Madam,

This is a very brief history of the Watter case. We, Heather & Arthur Doubleday, are the maternal grandparents of Isabella & Bronte Watter whose parents, Catherine Lee Watter & Michael James Watter separated on 21st August 2011 due to domestic violence, verbal and sexual abuse by Michael against the other members of the family.

Doctors Rebecca McGowan and Kevin Arlett reported sexual abuse against Bronte by the father on 30th August 2011. Child Safety officer, Merle McNulty, formed an opinion that the mother was coaching the children.

Michael Watter was served with a Domestic Violence Order on 15th November 2011, citing Catherine & Isabella as the ones needing protection.

9th December 2011, Federal Magistrate John Coker awarded full custody of the children to the father based on the opinion that Child Safety formed.

On the 4th February 2012 the father ceased all contact with the mother’s side of the family including ourselves, Aunties, Uncles, cousins and all family friends. He said that he needed to do this in order to protect himself.

The only contact the mother has had since 9th December 2011 has been with court approved supervisors to ensure that there is no coaching but the girls disclosures of sexual abuse by the father against them just keep coming.

On the 20th January 2012, we phoned the Sexual Abuse Hotline in Brisbane who referred us to Relationships Australia in Townsville who were very helpful and , I believe, passed on to Child Safety sexual abuse information which we had heard. There was no action taken by Child Safety.

On 8th March 2012, we visited the Federal Member for Herbert, Mr. Ewan Jones and reported our concerns. Mr. Jones’ office rang and advised us to contact Mr. Steven Cannon on 07 47 997 900, the senior intact officer with Child Safety and we were told that Mr. Cannon would return our call. This has never eventuated.

Heather met with Mr. Rob Moelhoek, the assistant minister for Child Safety, during a government visit to Townsville. He advised that we contact Mr. Matthew Lupi, director of Community Services here in Townsville. This we did by e-mail, a copy of which is attached.

We have still had no contact from Child Safety.

There have now been in excess of forty (40) disclosures by Bronte and Isabella, all with supervisors in attendance, since 9thDecember 2011. Supervisors and ourselves, have also witnessed serious psychical damage to the girls’ genital areas. These little five year olds are still with their father.

A new hearing is set down for 6th December 2012 and is likely to put back until next year.

If the mother is considered unfit to care for the children, they would be welcome here. Their beds are still made up with their teddy bears and toys still in place as well as some of their pets still with us. We would ensure that both parents could have equal access while in our care and would strictly enforce this.

If we are considered unfit to care for these little girls, please place them into a loving foster family unit until the court decides their future.

We seek urgent intervention in this matter.

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Letter of Offer to Australian Government and Federal Police via #WikiDetectives

Dear Readers

We are writing this letter with regards to our concerns for the safety of the two missing Watter Twins and their mother Cassie Watter .

WikiDetectives is receiving a great deal of evidence relating to this case which we are authenticating .

This campaign will continue to be released on Facebook ,  Twitter , Google and is also available on our website .

Our campaign continues on Malcolm Turnbull’s Facebook and Twitter account .

We will continue to tag the Federal Police Facebook Account .

Child Services will be personally emailed on their nsw.gov web site .

We will also include the Channel 9 A CURRENT AFFAIR SHOW with all our evidence and posts as they have prior knowledge of this case .

The father Michael Watter has threatened Timothy Holt , Wiki Staff , and Wiki Supporters on Facebook , and via personal threats to  personal mobile telephone numbers .

We encourage you , your government departments AND the Federal Police to contact the Chairman Timothy Holt on 1800 UNSEEN so that we may bring this matter to a conclusion .

Regards

Timothy Holt
Chairman
Wiki Detectives Pty Ltd

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This father has a diarrhea mouth ! Full of it he is ! #Leak25 #WikiEXPOSED

LEAK 25

Please note we have the original of this document ! This disgusting , pathetic , little man’s comment “ I was accepted to study medicine at JCU but declined the offer as it would have meant “missing irreplaceable time with my daughters during their formative years “ has to be the BIGGEST piece of FAKE NEWS next  to his denials about the RAPE of his twin girls ! Need a shovel and a wheelbarrow for that stuff spewing out of his mouth !

What did you get a postgraduate masters degree in ? MASTURBATING ?

Excuse me again whilst I puke you pathetic little coward of a man ! You are such a kind , caring , loving , devoted father that you left the children with the Heilbronns more often than not ! You are one , lying , conniving , piece of SCUM !!

 

 

Name: Catherine (Cassie) Lee Watter (03/10/1972)
Ex-Husband: Michael James Watter (19/2/1976)
Children: Bronte & Isabella Watter (4/1/07) Twins

Summary

Profile: Cassie Watter 
Owner/Director of Child Health and Development Centre (Paediatric Allied Health Centre www.chadc.com.au). Opened January 2010, winner of Early Childhood Australia award for Service Delivery in first year of operation.

– Volunteer work –
Inclusion Works (Disability Inclusion) Board member and previously Treasurer
Rotary Club of Thuringowa Central previous year Community Services Chair, current Treasurer. Nominated by the club for (and received) an Australian Community Service award.

  • Multiple Birth Volunteer Support Program – Vice President and assisted in founding
    Umbrella Network (for children with a disability) – Board member
  •  Established Multiple Birth volunteer home visiting program in Townsville in 2009

Profile: Michael Watter
Licensee for Kinnect Townsville (Occupational Rehabilitation)
Exercise Physiologist

– Volunteer work –
Member of Rotary Club of Townsville Sunrise
22/3/2000: Date of Marriage
Bronte & Isabella Born: 4/1/2007
September 2009 Date commenced seeing Relationships Australia for Domestic Violence: (Matthew Power)
March 2011: Change in girls’ behaviour (inc terrified of being alone with father, wetting and soiling pants, Bronte fear of going to the toilet, withdrawn/ ‘zoned out’ and more aggressive)

March/April 2011 The girls saw Laura Browne (speech pathologist) in regards to their behaviour with their father.
Approx June 2011 Bronte saw Lucy Dall’Alba (Occupational Therapist) sometime towards the middle of the year in regards to toileting issues – being scared to go to the toilet.
mid/end July Bronte taken to GP as Bronte waking with extreme pain in vaginal area night for approximately a week with no visible cause for the pain.

14/8/2011 Date of Separation: (Michael left 15/8/11 for work out of town)

21/8/2011: Girls and I moved out of the house to maternal grandparent’s house with minimal items. No legal action taken at the time.

29/8/2011: Bronte woke up with pain in the vaginal area again. This time disclosed to myself and Nana (Heather Doubleday) that it was due to ‘Daddy hurting it’. Mum advised me to take her to the doctor the next day.

30/8/11: Girls had an appt with OT (Lucy Dall’Alba) re issues regarding separation. Bronte disclosed to Lucy (without me present) that her father had rubbed her ‘toushka’ (vagina). Isabella said he did it to her too, and then said she was just kidding.

30/8/11: Girls taken to GP (Rebecca McCowan) who checked with practice owner (Kevin Arlett) and then reported to Child Safety and the police.

31/8/11 Bronte interviewed by CPIU (Rob Garnett) and DOCS (Merle McNulty). I was advised that there was no indication of sexual abuse, but that Bronte had confirmed she was
scared of her father. I was advised to get the book ‘Everyone has a Bottom’ for the girls.
DATE Dr Rebecca McCowan referred the girls under a Mental Health Care plan to child psychologist Carolyn Seri for issues relating to separation.

11/9/11 Sexualised behaviour in bathtub witnessed myself– saying it was Daddy’s funny hugs in Mummy and Daddy’s bed during their daytime rest with no underwear on. That Daddy tickles himself in his groin area while tickling them and their actions would be consistent with a male masturbating.

12/9/11 Sexualised behaviour in bathtub as per 11/9 witnessed by Patricia Plaisted and myself.

13/9/11 I rang Child Safety and reported the sexualised behaviour. It was not investigated.

23/9/11 Girls’ first appointment with Carolyn Seri.

27/9/11 Got the book ‘Everyone has a Bottom’ from the library.

28/9/11 Bronte disclosed that Daddy had asked her to keep a bad secret. The bad secret was him playing with her toushka – but that he had said he would never do it again.

30/9/11 Isabella asked for Patricia Plaisted and myself to ask her father not to play with her private parts when he collected them that day. This is the date that I had apparently
told the child safety officer that I was going to “set up my husband so that he would never be able to see his children again”. This was also apparently the day that I sent Michael text messages saying ‘come over honey’ etc which was used in the judgement as proof that I was setting him up. My text messages that day were actually more about the girls still being scared of him.

2/10/11 Disclosure by Isabella to Carolyn Seri who reported to Child Safety. Isabella had drawn a picture of herself and her father with genitals then
said that he rubs her ‘there’ with ‘that’.

3/10/11 Isabella interviewed by CPIU (Rob Garnett) and DOCS (Merle McNulty). There were second CIPU officer and DOCS officer there but I am unaware of their names. I was advised again that there was no
evidence of sexual abuse but that Isabella had admitted that she ‘makes things up’.

4/10/11 – Mediation at Dispute Resolution Centre. Some items agreed but not custody. Savvy Francis (JP) was my support person in the mediation.
– Girls’ had session with Carolyn Seri. Taken by Poppy (Arthur Doubleday) as I was in mediation.
– Bronte interviewed by CPIU (Rob Garnett) and DOCS (Merle McNulty). Again advised no evidence of sexual abuse. Advised both girls had been direct questioned.

8/10/11 Stephen & Sheree Heilbronn (Michael’s friends) came (without invitation) to my parents’ house and said that they were going to ‘take action’ and that the girls would be removed from my care within a week if the girls and I did not return to live with Michael immediately.

10/10/11 Girls’ appointment with Carolyn Seri.

12/10/11 Disclosure to Christine Young (JP) by Bronte that ‘Daddy tickles me on the front of my bottom with no pants on naughty Daddy’.

12/10/11 Contacted by Merle McNulty advising a ‘mutual friend’ of myself and Michael had reported me to Child Safety.

13/10/11 Interviewed by Merle McNulty and another officer. Savvy Francis (JP) was present as my support person. DOCS said that they had no concerns in regards to myself as a parent.

17/10/11 Girls’ appointment with Carolyn Seri.

18/10/11 Bronte disclosed that Daddy had told her that he would not touch their private parts again and would not be scary again ‘so it is ok’.

19/10/11 Disclosure to Christine Young (JP) by Bronte ‘Daddy tickles me down there (pointed to vagina) with his third hand. Bronte pointed to Christine’s crotch when she asked where Dad’s third hand was.

19/10/11 Michael lodged a notice of child abuse against me and a request that the girls be removed immediately from my care with the Family Court.

22/10/11 Girls’ appointment with Carolyn Seri.

24/10/11 Report by Carolyn Seri for court.

25/10/11 Bronte disclosed that she had taught her father a new word. When he had said he would not play with their toushka’s any more she had said ‘no Daddy it is called a vagina’ !  Bronte and Isabella disclosed that Daddy tickles their toushkas on the couch and on the bed.

31/10/11 First court date. On arrival at court Michael’s legal representatives advised that they would drop the notice of child abuse against me if I agreed to him having two nights and one afternoon a week with the girls. My solicitors advised me that this had to be agreed to otherwise I could face the removal of the girls if we went to court. Family court order put in place.

2/11/11 Isabella very red and inflamed vagina. Pain when going to toilet. Reported that it was sore because she had wet her pants at Dad’s again. She said that she was scared
to go to toilet at Daddy’s house as he would play with her private parts while she sits there.

4/11/11 Isabella stated that Daddy was rude because he tickled her private parts

5/11/11 Bronte woke up with pain in her vaginal area a number of times during the night again. Night after overnight access with father. Disclosed a number of instances when the girls had been abused. Most I had heard before. She also said that Isabella had spoiled all Daddy’s fun because she would not tickle his penis and that is his favourite thing. Daddy got angry and chased Isabella and Bronte didn’t like it so she got Isabella and locked both of them in the girls’ room so Daddy couldn’t do it anymore. She was laughing at one point about how Daddy’s third arm stands up straight like a soldier when you tickle it. And that when the girls do this Dad doesn’t get angry any more. He laughs and laughs and laughs.

8/11/11 Isabella disclosed to Heather (Grandmother) that Dad has 3 arms. She pointed to her crotch as to the location of his third arm and said that he ‘feels me with this one’

12/11/11 The girls and I had been talking about ‘strong choices’ in regards to sharing etc. Bronte said it was a strong choice to say no to Dad when he asked you to play with his private parts. Isabella started crying and said that she HAD said no to him.

26/11/11 Isabella disclosed to myself that Dad is still fondling them.

9/12/11 Interim Court decision to give father sole custody and sole parental responsibility and for myself to only have supervised access. Magistrate John Coker.  Michael nominated himself as the supervisor for access visits outside of the Relationships Australia supervised contact centre.

13/12/12 The girls rang me to say goodnight. I had them on speaker with Susan Morrison present. Bronte said that she needed to talk to me about the things that Daddy said he wouldn’t do anymore. The phone was disconnected immediately.

16/12/11 Bronte disclosed that Daddy only plays with our private parts sometimes now, so it is ok.

17/12/11 Isabella disclosed at Relationships Australia that Daddy can’t live in the sandcastle she built – only us three girls because Daddy still plays with her private parts.

18/12/11 Bronte said that Daddy broke promises because he promised he wasn’t going to play with her vagina but he still does. This was said at the Cotters Markets to myself and partially heard by their grandmother.

7/1/12 I received permission to recover my clothing from the house – and did so immediately.

10/1/12 Girls visiting with Michael supervising. Isabella disclosed to myself that Daddy had made her have her day time rest in his room while Bronte had to stay in their room. She said that he rubbed her vagina again with his penis and his hands and that it hurt. I said nothing and she started crying and saying over and over ‘it’s the truth Mummy’ and then soiled her pants. After this I took them to the shower. Isabella laid down so I could clean her properly and out of nowhere pointed to her vagina and asked me if I could see where it hurt. It was red.

13/1/12 Had IT person check computers. Password had been changed at the domain, all emails kept for 2 weeks and contact Michael@kinnect.com.au Immediately fixed this.

15/1/12 Terry I have put this in as an example – I have been keeping a thorough as possible diary. Michael will put things in that are not in the correct time-line in order to make us look like we have done something wrong. However we can prove certain things incorrect. Eg he sent me emails saying that I was refusing to mediate a few weeks after I had sent him an email saying I had registered us for mediation and that they would contact him. In his affidavit he states that the Family Relationship Centre would not have an appointment for months – we were already in contact with them and a couple of days after the interim hearing I had a certificate from them stating that mediation was not possible because the other party refused to engage. Michael is very clever at manipulating evidence and events to be ‘just out’ in order to look like I am lying.

Michael and the girls arrived at 8.45am at school. They ran to me. Michael sat out on the front verandah with his computer and we went inside. Isabella was almost immediately sad. I asked what was wrong and she just kept crying. Bronte said ‘she just doesn’t want to be with Daddy any more she wants to be here all the time’ and then she became upset as well. I just hugged both girls and started talking about the happy things we were going to be doing that morning. After about 10 mins I convinced them to pop on their swimmers and we went for a swim. After a few minutes my brother Stephen joined us in the pool.
– The girls mentioned a couple of times that they just didn’t want to go back to Daddy’s house any more and Isabella said that Daddy said it was my fault that they were not allowed to stay here.
– Dad had made a BBQ brunch and called us from the pool for this. They both got out of the pool but when Isabella saw that Michael was also at the table she stopped and refused to go closer. I had to carry her to the table. Diane, Steve, Stephen, Mum and Dad were also there.
– The girls wanted to go straight back inside after they finished their food so I took them in. We took the kittens out and they played with them.
– When it was time to go Isabella said to me that she wanted me to come to the movies. I said that she would have to check with Dad. He said yes. I immediately asked Mum to come as well so I would not be alone with Michael. When we went to leave Bronte opened my car door and climbed in. I called to Michael and just pointed to her and he said they could go in the car with me. Both of their faces just lit up and they straight away started singing songs. When we got to the cinema the girls clung to me. Michael paid for their movie tickets. The girls chose where to sit (right at the front LOL) and Michael walked around the other side and sat next to Bronte. She moved closer to me. For the whole movie Isabella and Bronte both just snuggled in to me – it was wonderful. Isabella whispered a few times and asked if she could please please please just stay with me. I said not this time because it was Daddy’s turn to have the girls stay with him. She hid her head under my coat.

– When the movie was over Michael grabbed Isabella’s hand and walked her out. She pulled away from him and came back to me. When we went outside the girls and I sat on the grass. They did not want to get off my lap and go with Michael and were asking him to please stay with mum. I said to them that they should go and I would send them a photo and a text message on their phone and see them on Tuesday.
– Once the girls were in Michaels’ car I said very quietly at the front of the car that the girls were unhappy and that we needed to talk later about trying to help them. He got immediately angry and said that I had to fix myself. I said ‘what?’ and he said ‘you know what you mean’. He was very loud and the girls heard. Bronte started crying and Isabella’s head dropped. Michael got in the car and slammed his door and nearly reversed into someone else as he was leaving.
18/1/12 Received below email from Michael
Upcoming appts for girls for you to attend:
• Hermit Park SS interview 12pm Friday.
• Isabella specialist at TTH 230pm Friday
• First day of prep 9am Monday

19/1/12 Supervised visit (supervisor Michael). Organised for one of their friends to come (Emily). Isabella soiled herself in the pool again. She disclosed that ‘Daddy still makes me go to his room and can you please please please keep me here mummy.’ Bronte disclosed ‘Daddy doesn’t rub my toushka anymore, he just rubs my clothes there (started rubbing her vagina through her shorts) and he tries to get in the middle and sometimes he can’t and it makes melaugh and laugh.’

20/1/12 Attended meeting at Hermit Park State School and specialist appointment at 2.30pm. Michael agreed that I could spend the time with the girls and Chantell between the appointments as he was going to go back to work. The girls went in Chantell’s car.

22/1/12 Michael supervised visit. Isabella soiled her swimmers again when talking about Daddy being scary.

23/1/12 Attended first day of school. The girls did not have school bags.

24/1/12 I offered to purchase some school bags and Michael agreed to meet me at Willows after school. He disappeared while we shopped. He then allowed the girls to return to Mum & Dads in my car and we bought him some dinner on theway home (KFC). After dinner the girls & I went for a swim. Isabella said that Daddy made her toushka sore and then she soiled her swimmers again. I took them both to the shower. Isabella went to the toilet first and cried when she urinated. I looked and her vagina was red raw. She said ‘can you see where he hurt it Mummy?’ I just asked her if she wanted me to put some cream on and she said ‘no then Daddy will know and he will be angry’. Bronte laid down and pointed to her clitoris. She said ‘this is where he plays with me but it doesn’t hurt see?’ I put both of them in the shower and went and got myself a drink of water then went back in to check them.

Then walked out again and got their clothes and went back in (each time shutting the door). The third time I walked out I had a text message from a friend on my phone so I grabbed that and read the message on my way back to the
bathroom. Isabella got dressed first in a new shirt I had also bought her that day and ran to the lounge room to show it to Nana & Poppy while I dried off Bronte. At 8.57pm that night I received a message from Michael saying ‘why did u take your phone into the bathroom while the girls showered today?’ I replied ‘What?’ and he replied ‘When they were in the shower u came and got your phone then went back into the bathroom and shut the door. I didn’t see you take it in to be fair, but either way I just don’t think its something to do at present. I did not respond.

25/1/12 Received a msg today from Michael saying ‘my idea’ of going to the cricket was a good one and that I should be there from 7.45-12.30. He was playing cricket at Riverway – that had not been ‘my idea’. I thought that was a long time for the girls to be in the heat outside at this time of year and suggested that we spend the morning there, go for a movie (Muppets at 10.15) and be back before 12.30pm. I said I would ensure I would have other people with me. He refused and insisted that the girls stay in the Riverway vicinity and said he would have people ‘monitoring the situation’.
26/1/12 Have taken the following parts straight from my diary as I believe it is the event that was reported to Child Safety. Please not that this is not my ‘complete’ diary.
– Oh my goodness. Turn up to Riverway for 7.45am to see the girls. Made sure I had other people with me so that I would still be ‘under watch’ because Michael was not providing supervision. When he arrived he started talking about having talks with the girls about who can photograph their private parts etc etc. In front of the girls, Desiree, Shannon and her boys and Ray. I ended up walking away and the others walked with me. I said ‘this is just more court stuff’ and removedall of us from the situation.
– After our swim Desiree was chatting to her boys re stranger danger and being able to go to the police etc because there were some people that were a bit ‘wrong’ that were nearby and we moved away from. Bronte told her that
Dad had said not to talk to the police because they weren’t their friends and then Isabella was saying how Daddy plays with her private parts and when they play with his it stands up. She said he had a video of it on his phone. I was horrified because the girls have NEVER said anything in front of a ‘group’ of people before and I didn’t
know what to say and never thought I would be putting Desiree and her boys in that situation. I changed topics about the park/pool/grapes/anything and just kept my head down. Desiree decided to get Shannon to take her boys to the
movies and she stayed with me. Isabella was exhausted so we spent a great deal of the time inside the arts centre and she just laid down. I rang mum and she brought down some story books for us to read to them. Then they were saying that they didn’t want to go back to Dad etc. OMG. Meanwhile at no time was there anyone ‘supervising’ us. I gave them back to him 15 mins early because Desiree had to go and I didn’t want to be in the position where I was alone withthem. Isn’t that crazy!!!! I am scared to be left alone with my own beautiful girls. When I got to the car I just cried and cried.

27/1/12
– Went and saw Jo Lukins. As I was paying Desiree rang up and told me she had contacted Child Safety about what the girls had said. I was terrified. I so want to protect my girls but I
can’t be seen to be doing anything because no-one thinks that anything is wrong!
Met mum and dad at the school so the kids could all see the kittens. The kids loved it and the girls were so excited. J After we left I told mum and dad what Desiree had done then went to work.
Jo L rang later in the day to see if I was ok as she said she could tell that I had been scared when I left her office.

28/1/12
– Saw the girls at RA today – we had a ball. Have made a conscious decision to take KFC. Only get 1.5 hours and by the time I do the usual vegies, meat, cereal – half that time has gone.
– As I was leaving the supervisor told me that Michael had asked for extra sessions. I said that would be more than ok. Told him what had happened Thursday/Friday and said maybe that was the reason.
– Came home to discover that Michael had been to see Dad and tried to convince him that I have a mental problem and been coaching the girls and to say negative things about the court. Dad said he refused to agree to these things but had asked him about the ‘honey come over’ text messages. Michael had told Dad that the police had made that up!!!! What??? Dad said all of the evidence needed to be tested as he knew lies had been told.
– Met with Jojo and Rae Greaves. They were so lovely and helpful but it is just such a bad situation – no-one knows what to do!!!
– I went over to visit Lindy as I hadn’t seen her for ages and just as I was pulling up Isabella rang. It was around 7pm. She said that they were just going out to get some milk. I told her where I was and she told me to stay there for a few minutes so that she could visit. I said she would have to ask Dad. He said no. She said ‘he always says no if we want to see you’. I said I would be seeing her tomorrow and we could swim and play with the kittens so it was ok. She said she got some new lounges and I said that was so exciting where did she get them from? Mr Stephen & Mrs Sheree. I said that they were getting them lots of presents now and she said yes they were. I said that they liked the girls staying with Dad – which was wrong – I meant them being happy to stay with Dad. Michael got angry and the phone was disconnected.
– Isabella rang me back (this time inside with Lindy) and each time she went to talk about Dad the phone seemed to be moved away from her and there would be a silent period. I told Isabella that there were lots of people that loved her and asked her to tell me some of them. She was silent. In the end she asked what the beeping noise was but there wasn’t one. Then the phone disconnected. She rang back again and said that she had run out of credit. I said if she brought the phones tomorrow I would put some more credit on. She said she would like to ring Aunty Glenys and Aunty Cherie.
– I received an email from Michael at about 9.30pm saying that he was stopping access effective immediately. So the girls will now no longer see me tomorrow as he had promised. He said the HE was at risk by supervising!!!! OMG. If anyone was at risk it was us!!! He said it was my responsibility to find a supervisor.
– I just sent him a bland email back saying that there were several people willing to supervise. What a nightmare. I am hoping I still get to see the girls but even though his email was full of crap it would be SO much better to be supervised by someone else in the hope that an honest record of my interactions with the girls is recorded.

29/1/12
– Sent Michael an email with a person who would agree to supervise this afternoon so that the girls weren’t ‘uprooted’ so fast. I also sent him a text that the email was there and asked for a quick response so things could be organised.
– Rang around and got a list of several other people who would supervise and also emailed this list to Michael.
– Ray came around to talk to Mum & Dad and I. He was horrified at what Michael was saying on Thursday and I apologised again.
30/1/12 Received email from Michael at 10.13pm refusing all suggested supervisers.

31/1/12 Rang Chris Fox and made appt for 3.30pm.
– Went to see accountant – business pretty much zero value. Lucky I sold Dad everything last year too to help pay for all the legal costs.
– On way in to see Chris Fox got a call from Stephanie at Child Safety. Was very surprised to say the least! She asked if I could talk right now and I said I was just about to go into an appointment. She asked me for my understanding of what Merle & Rob had said about the emotional harm of the girls. I said ‘what?’ She said that the girls had been interviewed again. I was shocked. I had no idea that had happened. I did NOT want them to go through that again!!!!! She kept talking & I said I was in a very public place at the hospital and would like to ring her back. She said ‘oh you are at Emergency again’. I said I was not and repeated that I was waiting for an appointment. She said I had to ring back today. I agreed I would ring after my appointment.
– Had the appointment with Chris Fox. She said ‘there is quite a history here’ after reading the summary of events to

10/1/12.
– After I asked if I could ring Stephanie on speaker so that Chris could be support people. They agreed and we agreed that I would let Stephanie know that there were other people present. I rang up and Stephanie immediately started attacking me. I kept trying to interrupt so that I could tell her about other people listening but she would not allow me to talk. Eventually I raised my voice and talked over her and said ‘I need to let you know that there are other people also listening to the call. She stopped. Her tone of voice immediately altered. At a couple of points Stephanie appeared to either not be listening to me, or being unreasonable. Chris spoke to her about this a couple of times. The call went for about an hour. Stephanie said that if the girls were interviewed again she would substantiate emotional harm against me. I asked how that could happen when someone else reported, I was unaware of the report, and I was unaware of the interview taking place. She then switched to the trauma that I had subjected the girls to by having them examined. I said that I had asked for the girls NOT to have a forensic examination as they had not disclosed anything that would make me believe there had been penetration. She then said she had a report that David Neusome had examined them. I explained that Dr Neusome had told the girls’ GP to have me take them to the hospital. Stephanie said ‘and you agreed’. Chris stated that they would be concerned at the hospital if they asked a parent to bring a child and they refused to attend. Stephanie then changed subjects again. The whole conversation did not make sense to me.

1/2/12
– Got a phone call on the way up to Ingham from the girls. Nicola & Carmel were in the car. The girls started off excited saying that Daddy said they were going to see me again. They also said they were going to do ballet that afternoon. I said that sounded like great fun. They said they were going to see me tomorrow – I said that I didn’t know that – how exciting – Michael interrupted to say that they would not be allowed to see me. They both went quiet. I tried to cheer them up by talking about school, their friends, their teacher, their ballet, animals, fairies, people who love them etc etc etc. They were just quiet. I was on the phone for some time until they reached school.
– Attended clients, went to the deli & got the girls some pasta shapes and hearts.
Email from Michael at 9.45am – Cassie

Please provide contact details for all people you have suggested and I will ensure they are each very clear on the basis for my decision. I will speak with Andy King today if you advise his contact details.

I spoke with Catherine from the contact centre yesterday and they are considering more time there, but she doesn’t sound confident. She is not back in the office until Friday.
– Sent him a text with Andy’s number at lifeline.
– Received a call from Andy re what my thoughts were re supervision and the difficulty he may have supervising at all times (eg going to public toilets). He said Michael had asked him to ‘just stay in the vicinity’ rather than ‘right next to or 5m away’. I said I would prefer Andy to be close enough to hear everything to ensure I was not saying anything inappropriate to the girls. He said Michael had told him I was not to photograph the girls genitals. He is insane. I brought up that as it was summer I would prefer to not have the girls outside in the middle of the day. Andy agreed. He said that Michael had asked him to do 2 hours one day a fortnight.
– Attended Rotary as usual and got a call from the girls during the meeting. I went outside as usual to talk to them. I asked how ballet was and Isabella said she had been scared. I said I sometimes got scared when I tried new things too, but then I found out that they were fun and I made lots of friends. Asked her about all the other little girls and said I was sure they were both wonderful graceful ballerinas. At one point Michael said something and they both went quiet. Michael then started tickling them and they started laughing and saying ‘ow stop it’ but really laughing and enjoying it – but not able to talk to me. Every now and then Michael would say ‘don’t forget to talk to mum’ and then keep playing with them. I said that the sound of Bronte and Isabella laughing was the best sound in the world and said goodnight and ended the call.

2/2/12
– Received a call from Isabella on Bronte’s phone. She said she had no credit on hers. I told her next time she sees me to bring her phone and I will put credit on it. I also was in the process of telling her that she could still receive calls with no credit and the phone was immediately disconnected.
– Got another call later on. Same story – started off sad, he started tickling etc. I said I was really happy that the girls were happy and said goodnight and ended the call.

3/2/12
– Got a call from Relationships Australia and they have found another time for me to see the girls!!! OMG I just cried with relief and joy.
– Andy rang and said that Michael told him his services weren’t needed any more. So I guess he is sticking just to the contact centre now the girls said something in front of someone else.
– No call from the girls tonight L
– Susan & JoJo came over for dinner. They started talking about the girls and I just couldn’t stop sweating. After they left I went to the toilet and vomited. I thought living with Michael and his volatility was stressful but this is just horrendous.

4/2/12
– Saw the girls at the contact centre. They were angry – tantrums, kicking etc. Isabella stormed off when her ball went over the fence even though Kristy was going to get it for her. She went all the way inside the house and did not respond to my calls – not like her at all. They would not go to the toilet unless I walked with them. Bronte is W-sitting ALL the time too. At one stage when I suggested we read a book she walked away saying ‘I can’t read’. Isabella said smugly ‘I can’. And Bronte turned away. I brought out Green Sheep because Bronte knows it nearly by heart and we read the book together. She was really proud of herself at the end. She has NEVER not wanted to be involved with books before. They are getting so rough and angry and Bronte is losing so much confidence in herself! They did calm down with me to look at their 1st year photo book and loved that – will have to take it again. They asked about the kittens and I talked about how lovely and gentle the girls are with them and that they were so good helping all the children at their school to be gentle. One of them said ‘Daddy is rough with them’ and I changed the subject.

8/2/12
– Girls said that they would be spending each Friday night with Heilbronns. I said that would be fun.
– Michael agreed on the phone that I could volunteer in the classroom
– Michael also agreed that Mum & Dad could see the girls – but then hung up on me. I had told him that I would ensure that I would not be in the house the same time. He said that he had put in writing his conditions to them but I had not known this and apologised because I was unaware that they were already in contact.

10/2/12
– Call from girls – no sleepover tonight with Heilbronn. Sounded confused about it. Was a bizarre conversation actually. Michael muttering in the background and girls then silent for ages, then would finally come back to talk. Told jokes with Poppy and I and that got them laughing again J

11/2/12
– Contact centre. Girls rough – not following directions. Isabella wet her pants. No hats/sunscreen etc or bag/change of clothes. Bronte remembered her wish at Paronella Park nearly a year ago. That Daddy would go away and not be shouting. What do you say to that??!!! Told Isabella her wish had come true and all the trees were growing back after the cyclone. Bronte said ‘my wish didn’t come true’. I had taken them in stuff so we could make play doh + their aprons/chefs hats. Also watermelon, popcorn chicken and ‘donut pasta’ from Ingham. Also a heap of books and they each chose some stories to read. Had to really encourage please/thank you/manners/directions etc. Played a game with them when I first arrived and ‘found them’ hiding. They were so funny. Love them SO much!!!!!!!! What to do???!!!! – No call from the girls tonight.

12/2/12
– Got a call from Michael’s phone tonight – and just dead – no sound at all – like it was on mute. Rang back to his phone and both the girls’ phones and all went through to messagebank. Waited a while and then rang back again and this time got through. Had a good chat to Isabella then rang Bronte’s phone to speak to her. Then Michael said something quietly and she said ‘goodnight mum’ and then the phone was still connected but just background noise again. I kept saying ‘hello’ but the phone had been taken from her. Eventually I just hung up. It is sad that he thinks this is a game. There are little girls here that don’t seem to be of any consequence. Awful. And I can’t do anything for them.

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LEAK 24
Handwritten Diary Notes
Please note the revelations of the amount of abuse over only a few days ! Note the controls our loving , caring , devoted father tries to impose on his wife and children ! Note the HORROR when Cassie catches this man Michael Watter “ MASTURBATING  “ whilst lying next to his daughter !
  1. Note the financial abuse of his wife !
  2. Not a selfish bone in his body !
  3. Note the girls absolute reluctance to go ANYWHERE with the father !
  4. Note how scared the children are of the father !
  5. This is one helluva guy !
  6. Someone to be REALLY PROUD OF !
  7. He makes me want to puke !
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HELP US FREE THE WATTER TWINS AND THEIR MOTHER CASSIE !
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Verbal diarrhea ? What do you think ? #Leak23 #WikiDetectives

LEAK 23

Please see below correspondence from our good friend “  QUINNIE  “. Please note his eloquence and linguistic style once again . Once again threats and abuse from one very eloquent ( or so he thinks ) coward in the mould of Michael Watter . Note also the mail has been copied to that little man Michael Watter .

These little men , are certainly paranoid about keeping an eye on MANY of the child protection pages that are available on facebook and why wouldn’t they be ? They need to be aware of where their next attack will come from !

You have already seen previous correspondence from “ QUINNIE  “ where his elegant verbal style , besides being fairly obvious , also denotes that he appears to have a very high opinion of himself and his child abusing mate Michael Watter .

He does go on a bit though and appears to be in love with his own brilliance and grasp of the English language !

Our friend “ QUINNIE  “ took it upon himself to threaten Dave Mclaughlin AND Charles Pragnell as he , once again , erroneously believed the initial confrontation of Michael Watter came from them .

Please see the following link for detailed information on one Charles Pragnell :-

http://bit.ly/charles-report

I am sure our qualified mate will NOW see and accept that his abuse has been directed at a very knowledgeable man who is well qualified in the field of Child Protection . His continued abuse is misdirected however but that is “ QUINNIE’S  “ problem .

In Michael Watter’s case however , we are sure this information will not suit his quest for contributions by ill informed parties about the sexual abuse of his twin daughters .

To quote our friend “ QUINNIE  “ — and if you feel so strongly in your allegations – prove them to me today and I’ll fight with you!! PROVE everything you and the rest say is the case by coming, supported with documents and publicly know, there’s no fear of anything happening

“ QUINNIE  “ why don’t you take the time to READ all of the LEAKS 1-23 and we are sure , being the fair minded person you so obviously are , you will realise the error of your ways and boldly step forward to encourage ALL your mates to sign and share the petition we have going and demand a RE INVESTIGATION of this case ..

www.bit.ly/missingtwins

What do you say “ QUINNIE  “ ?

Maybe you would like to use this forum to further air your thoughts so that some of us ( who may not be that impressed with you ) may perhaps change our minds on the support you are giving your paedophile mate Michael Watter . WE may be wrong – just point this fact out to us with ALL the evidence and who knows you may get your way !

Failing that , we would expect you to stand up and be counted and be at the front of the queue SHOUTING for petition to be signed and shared ! In fact shouting for a RE INVESTIGATION would possibly assist . Now wouldn’t that be a marvellous gesture as it would help us to lessen our worries about the well being of YOUR children !

We hope all the readers of this LEAK are able to follow your obstacle course of an email . Plenty more LEAKS to come people WITH supporting documention which does not rely on any hearsay !

—–Original Message—–
From: RIAN QUINN [mailto:quinnieinaus@gmail.com]
Sent: Sunday, 12 July 2015 4:38 PM
To: Charles Pragnell
Cc: Dave McLaughlin
Subject: Meeting

Charles,

Haven’t heard back from you and I know you check your emails, your life is online?? I’m on my way to the airport, still in city but fly out of Tullamarine around 7:30 – are we going to meet and have a chat as proposed? I’m happy to meet anywhere between the city and airport but I’ll get the coffees and food or coffee only, no worries.

I’m hoping you can make it and we can chat, face to face is so much better for everyone, keyboards are not an avenue to really continue on with this whole saga. There’s nothing left to type but face to face, the truth isn’t hard to find!! I say this with body language and facial expressions – let’s try and work this out and together team up to get the case of Watter vs Watter sorted, together we can fight to make the truth become the driving force and if you feel so strongly in your allegations – prove them to me today and I’ll fight with you!! PROVE everything you and the rest say is the case by coming, supported with documents and publicly know, there’s no fear of anything happening?? Pick the place and go there, give me half an hour but go as you let me know and wait and see me come and make sure I’m alone, the moment you pick any place, make sure you’re there so you can see everything and know it’s just you and me and coffee:-)

Cheers

—–Original Message—–
From: RIAN QUINN [mailto:quinnieinaus@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, 11 July 2015 10:01 AM
To: Dave McLaughlin; Charles Pragnell
Cc: Michael Watter
Subject: Fwd: Beware Mr Quinn

So Dave,

In the light of the other nights email to you and Charles, both quite different from each other but all obviously regarding the one and only reason, M Watter and Cassie Watter who without getting into it, brought all of us together in a hurricane style fashion. Now that we have had the serious misfortune of crossing paths and rapidly getting to the stage we are at now, all due to these many different version of events and ideas and claims by a myriad of people being so dead set in their belief that THEY KNOW THE FACTS????
Now, Dave I could’ve gone with your method and copied it –  replying – point by point, accusation by accusation BUT it’s not what I felt would serve my purpose with anything really good, until I had my window to do so, well the time is now but YOU still remain in the dark and claim to be someone you’re not, so this will be the email to point out who I am and what you are, it’s far easier to assume you are that guy, who just won’t stop until you feel your job is done?? That’s all good in theory but seriously, I’m of the opinion that you are just a plain and simple “keyboard” warrior with a vendetta to right the wrongs of your child hood experience with your “problem”? Right or wrong it doesn’t change anything but let me try show you why you’ve got these opinions of me, seeing me for someone who does think or isn’t emotionally stable bla bla bla whatever, my direct actions have enabled us to establish A) you’re behind the emails of many sent to “many” people (not nearly the numbers you quoted but lets move on) and the gmail accounts as secure as an IP as you think they are, simply put is bullshite!! B) the best way to emotionally open someone up in order to see through them and have them show you more than they wanted too, is to act dumb, appear in the grey area, reply in a variety of emotional and questionable formats and make the receiver think he’s the one in control – simply put Dave we’ve been applying quite an easy formula to every bit of virtual correspondence and then using that to compare against other accusations etc and can you believe, we know now why this is and has occurred. Clearly a rhetorical question, so no need to answer.
“There are none so blind as those who will not see. The most deluded people are those who choose to ignore what they already know ” — John Heywood 1546 –
Please no need to seek this type of poetic approval (religion is man made, so not for me – we manipulate and I can’t follow anything that try’s too – but I do follow MY higher power, ME)  this verse is tricky because you have seen the delusions of others, using your brain to convince the fact your eyes, never saw it at all!!! Deluded is an understatement but again, I digress……next
See the letter Quinn  has written. A big BTW: his recipient has absolutely nothing to do with our attempts to bring Michael Watter to book. We remain anonymous for obvious reasons, and the recipient of Quinn’s email is completely uninvolved.
On Sunday, June 21,
PLEASE I beg of you, just look at this and take notes for your future email threats!! It’s not the fact you actively write about the “recipient” not being involved that bothers me, based only on the fact it’s NOT true BUT it’s not something someone would care about or say if the cause they were fighting was undoubtedly true and legally and morally justified!! That alone should warrant a “don’t give a shit attitude because of the irrefutable legality of the guilty parties, who you will be doing your best to put to trial etc etc” BUT to bring to attention this need to uninvolve an involved person is quite unusual, you do know by receiving and sending of anything tangible/virtual/3rd dimensional is involving yourself with the recipient and therefore the entire action of “sending” increases the level of everyone’s involvement and not just those two who are directly communicating?? So, next time just know we are all so neck deep in this already and it’s no ones fault and not any conspiracy etc, it’s the truth of the consequences to meddling in areas of uncertainty and trying to play the part of judge and jury with no real factual evidence or substantial proof, that this actual person who’s being accused is guilty or the person committing the abduction is truly innocent,  no one?? -anyone emotionally invested in a topic that’s so sensitive and raw as child abuse, is and has a huge possibility for active persuasion techniques to be cunningly used to gain sympathy and create cases for future plans to be seen as “what else could be done, it’s come to that or I don’t blame them, from what I’ve heard over the last few years, she/he is better off doing this”??
Jesus isn’t it that simple, meaning simple to accept that people are liars and people are bad, so trust is NOT AN OPTION in certain fields, detachment is easy but attachment is far easier to project than accept!!!
IT IS NOW PERHAPS TIME FOR YOU TO UNDERSTAND A FEW BASICS ABOUT MICHAEL WATTER. If you do not understand that your continued association with this maniac will result in the world branding you as being the same, then so be it – or are you the same Quinnie? Did he offer you his twins too, like some of his other mates?
WORLD BRANDING????????Grandiose delusions – Grandiose delusions (GD) or delusions of grandeur are principally a subtype of delusional disorder that occurs in patients suffering from a wide range of mental illnesses, including two-thirds of patients in manic state of bipolar disorder, half of those with schizophrenia and a substantial portion of those with substance abuse disorders.GDs are characterized by fantastical beliefs that one is famous, omnipotent, wealthy, or otherwise very powerful. The delusions are generally fantastic and typically have a supernatural, science-fictional, or religious theme.
There is a relative lack of research into GD, in contrast to persecutory delusions and auditory hallucinations. About 10% of healthy people experience grandiose thoughts but do not meet full criteria for a diagnosis of GD – PAGING DOCTOR……..I’ll cover that shortly in fact,
THIS WAS A CRACKER, seriously the offering of the twins to me, like his other mates is just the most ridiculous piece of wording I’ve ever had sent to me, in the attempt to make a statement sound credible or appear with any credibility at all, it’s quite hard to explain about how I really feel or hard to describe?? I’ll ask rather, when you wrote this that very moment you completed your sentence, did you have any split second doubts or guilt in any way?? I ask because I can’t type that in the aim to achieve  any form of “PROOF” or “FACT”
emotion, it’s far too unbelievable and so far from the reality I live in and also know is the same for my circle, inc MWatter – that it doesn’t compute, it angers me if anything, that you have the ordacity to even go there, shows true character there Dave, depths of evil places and back for you Dave, continue with that in a bit….
Interesting that you can engage in this deceit, admit the lies, and then still write about yourself as an “honest, straight up person with high morals and ethics”.  It doesn’t seem you have much insight into what it is that you are doing.
So before I go on, no need to cover the Ol “over shoulder looking cobber part” right? Good!!
Interesting is good, engage not so much. Engaging means there are two or more objects which actively create an equal moment, through physical movement or higher senses making way and essentially stopping the common autoblock for emotional detachment – something our brains activate without our “knowledge” effectivley, it is a decision to avoid engaging emotional connections, rather than an inability or difficulty in doing so, typically for personal, social, or other reasons. In this sense it can allow people to maintain boundaries, psychic integrity and avoid undesired impact by or upon others, related to emotional demands. By allowing access the back and forth and shift that momentum gains CREATES TRUE ENGAGEMENT IN ‘THE ACT” – you haven’t done that once but you have accused us of being deceitful and using multiple email addresses, right? Think about that…………….. Morals and ethics are easy for me, they are harder for someone with an agenda and a self obsessive need to feel achievement in this kind of way, it’s not normal to continually threaten and lie to those around the problem in the fashion you have done, especially being half way across the world, so….. ethically and morally YOU have a lot to answer for, you haven’t been truthful and explained you’re reasons for this purpose YOU feel is your life’s work, you haven’t given yourself anything to feel as strongly about except this, obviously because it’s consistent and never ending, had you something else to do, you wouldn’t have this drive you’ve maintained and shown us, YOU ASKING YOURSELF ABOUT NOW……..WHY HAVEN’T I DEALT WITH MY SITUATION PROPERLY? I’M NOT GOING TO BE SATISFIED WHEN THIS ALL FINISHES, ITS ONLY TEMPORAREY NOT PERMANENT, MY MENTAL SCARS ARE NOT HEALED AND I FEEL I NEED ANOTHER CAUSE, CYCLES OF THIS I ONLY HOPE DOESN’T HAPPEN BECAUSE I HAVE TO WORRY FOR YOU AND SHARON AND THE KIDS  – It’s natural to worry, you will see what I mean a bit further down – Human Emotion Dave, not anything but a real, honest well positioned concern ANY TRUE SELF RESPECTING PERSON WOULD SEE AS NORMAL  -Anyways, had you something else to truly do……easy to say but to know how this is truly on point is explained simply by your compulsive need to come back to this, you have NOT fought your own demons in the way of self belief in knowing you understand your problem and no matter how hard it is to accept that the past has no way of changing, you need to accept you have moved on, tough but seriously, I truly say this with all my heart, get help Dave, your tragic tale of what you went through, I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy BUT I would advise my enemy to seek the help needed to “feel”
again, for yourself and not for causes surrounding your problem because an enemy who is mentally unwell, isn’t an enemy at all, they become the victim and they always have been the very people I support and not those I want to fight!!
I hate sounding like a fair and kind bloke because you will see, just a bit further on – YOU have given me a cause and with all your many mistakes which could so easily be swept under the rug, won’t even be a memory for us soon BUT the line you so freely used, has been quite well digested now – you’ll see shortly, not much more promise.
In life we are defined not so much by what we are, but by what we do , so maybe you should consider the matter more closely , you should read the emails we have been sending out whereby the facts are taken from official court documents, and NOT Watter lies.
It just gets better and better, you seriously want to try and convince me or anyone else that the allegations you so firmly believe are true, are IN COURT DOCUMENTS as PROOF IN WAY OF – FOUND TO BE TRUE OR DOCUMENTED IN COURT – AS THE COURT IS OBLIGATED TO DO, I CAN GO TO COURT FOR SPEEDING AND USE DEFENCE “I HAD TO GET AWAY FROM A 3 HEADED DRAGON AS FAST AS I COULD OR I WOULD BE KILLED”
This statement would be in the court documents for all to see if they wanted BUT the judge would NOT in anyway rule that as a fact and allow me to walk Scott free!!! You try word your approaches cleverly but you do KNOW that they are filled with holes, let’s continue on shall we!!!
So let’s give you the benefit of the doubt for now , maybe you have been blindsided by Watter, and then see WHAT YOU DO, and if you are still supporting Mikey after this, then everyone I have copied this correspondence to will know exactly what you are , and Sarah and Beth will have good reason to be seriously concerned about you .
I don’t need yours or anyone for that matter, who doesn’t know me to give me anything…. the benefit of the doubt is something you need to be able to offer as an avenue to someone who has clearly misrepresented or completely mistaken a friend/known person/situation with direct involvement/business entity and management structure or just plainly a mistake by not having all the facts about a sitiation DIRECTLY involving a person and another entity known to them – YOU have no right to give that to me, YOU DON’T KNOW ME, YET ASKTO EXPLAIN MYSELF?? TWISTED MAN DAVE, YES I HAVE YOU PEGGED – so I think you’re offering me a line that seems appropriate to gain standing in an area needing more than one in the hierarchy or more than one leader?? Lets be totally honest and explore this DAVE, you have not met Michael Watter, you have not met me, you have NOT met CASSIE or the TWINS either??? WHO AND IN WHAT WORLD DO YOU FEEL YOU HAVE THE RIGHT, TO STAND BY YOUR CONSTANT OPINIONS OF A MATTER YOU ARE AND NEVER HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN????? Blindsided by WATTER, you arrogant, self obsessed freak!! You have been blindsided Dave, you and others who have got involved so deep  in this emotionally, you have no place in our world (OUR WORLD – FRIENDS of MIKE and CASSIE and for over 15 years have known the person you feel has done these horrendous things to his twins and we’ve climbed in) YOU Dave have the choice to involve yourself in a case of this magnitude, by choosing this willingly and openly knowing the facts of someone you HAVE NEVER EVER MET????DELUSIONS OF GRANDEUR DAVE, you are the one we should be giving the benefit of the doubt to, you are the one we should ALL be standing up to and saying “what are you doing mate, you are not the person equipped for this in any way shape or form, being you have not seen it with YOUR EYES EVER!!!” YOU WOULD BE MADE OUT TO BE THE BIGGEST SUPPORTER FOR  CAUSE THAT HAS MERIT BUT IN A CASE YOU HAVE THE VERY REAL POSSIBILTY OF DESTROYING AN  ACTUAL OUTCOME FOR ANYTHING TO HAPPEN, LEGALLY, MORALLY, ETHICALLY AND SO ON…….So we get IT, I GET IT – that is why you haven’t stepped up and said HI I’M here, lets chat……why??? because you have dug yourself an absolute unintended virtual burial spot!!! You hide behind these many emails and simply can’t be the advocate and supporter you truly could have been and probably wanted to be, you went guns blazing and too far to literally turn back – You have  yourself to blame for everything DAVE but it’s too late anyway……
My Wife and Daughter were named by your typical standard tactic of jumping in before thinking, you used my email to get their names which I was happy to accept, why wouldn’t I BUTyou say their name’s and feel in that same breath that you are in a position to “warn” them or anyone about ME? I am not going to entertain that comment, it has been THE ONE of all those many comments, you have put on emails to us THAT has brought you into the firing line of not just me BUT more of my “supporters” and friends that thought……..YOU WERE BORDER LINE CRAZY OR MENTALLY UNSOUND for even crossing that bridge??? WHY??? They KNOW ME and MY unequivocal need to be the best I can be for everyone I hold dear to me…….MY WIFE AND DAUGHTER I WILL DIE TODAY FOR DAVE, NO MATTER THE REASON – MY LIFE IS NOT MINE DAVE, IT’S THEIR’S AND YOU HAVE NOW PUT ME ONTO YOU, LIKE A MAGNET, THE LAWS OF ATTRACTION HAVE DEALT YOU THE HAND, YOU SO DESPERATLY NEEDED TO FEEL YOU HAD IN STARTING THIS WHOLE CAMPAIGN!!!! YOU HAVE THE CHOICES YOU THOUGHT WERE HANDY TO MAKE AVAILABLE TO ME, SO FIRMLY RETURNED TO YOU – I NEED YOU TO HAVE THE BEST CHANCE IN THIS BECAUSE……
I don’t threaten Dave, I promise and I NEVER have a timeline to deliver that promise because I am a firm believer that, the delivery is the Most important element and that’s a tactic and approach that for over 30+ years has served me and my battles, in a way where those who know me for ME will 100% confirm that if you don’t know the real Quinnie and feel you need to impart on me a form of self opinionated advise on my life/family/job/ or anything I HAVE DONE FOR ME and THOSE AROUND ME (not you stranger) they immediately “enlighten” that person of the fact, I must be approached by a request for a sideline chat, I never question what it’s about ot why we ha have the chat etc, I have the “OPEN BOOK” policy of – show me respect and criticize me on the side, no matter what the message or advice is I RESPECTFULLY reply with my opinion in a polite and evenly balanced manner…..
YOU COME AT ME LIKE A BULL IN A CHINA SHOP AS A STRANGER, THEN FEEL YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUDGE ME AND MY LIFE, FRIENDS ETC BY VERBALLY/ PHYSICALLY/ MENTALLY WHATEVER…. – I WILL WIN, NO MATTER HOW WRONG I MIGHT HAVE BEEN OR RIGHT THEY WERE, YOU WILL LOSE AND BE MADE OUT TO BE AN IDIOT FOR TRYING IT BUT ALL CREDIBILTY YOU HAD TO RIGHTFULLY GAIN FOR NOTHING BUT A HUMBLE GESTURE OR  HONESTY BEING REAL AND TRULY OFFERED – IT’S GONE FORVEVER, LIKE THAT DAVE……………YOU’RE GONE!!!!! YOU HAVE MADE YOUR MARK AND GOT YOUR RESULT BUT NOT HOW YOU THOUGHT YOU’D GET IT – YOU WANTED THIS DAVE BUT NOT LIKE THIS…..
YOU HAD SO MUCH TO GAIN HERE DAVE, SO MUCH TO ACHEIVE AND ALL FOR A GREAT CAUSE BUT………you took the wrong approach and now there is no way back…….sad!!! SO, I AM GOING TO MAKE YOU A PROMISE, NO TIME LIMIT OR HEADS UP ETC………….I WILL MEET YOU AND FACE TO FACE – YOU WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THEN TO KNOW EXACTLY WHO THE PERSON IS, THAT YOU SO VERY KINDLY OFFERED “THE BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO FOR NOW”
–  THE NOW IS GONE, THE DOUBTS ARE CLEAR AND ALL OF THIS MESS HAS BEEN CREATED BY A PERSON WITH NO FACTUAL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THEY THEMSELVES HAVE ACTUALLY TRULY CREATED EITHER??? YOU’LL FIND OUT THAT’S OBVIOUS BUT WHEN IS THE CERTAINTY……
Off to do my home work, it’s another part of my character that needs to really know the  facts and figures, that I work with and in – regardless of topic/subject/person it’s always been a work in progress  -getting better at it but we’ll see by the end of the weekend –
TAKE CARE DAVE,  – LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING YOU, NO SHIT OR LINES LACKING SUBSTANCE ANYMORE – I HAVE YOU QUITE HONESTLY AS A MOMENT TO LOOK FORWARD TO – GROW A PAIR AND USE THEM ON DECION’S CONCERNING ME, WATTER OR ANYONE I KNOW – FAMILY IS OFF LIMITS DAVE UNLESS IN AN APOLOGY, TEST THIIS PLEASE!!!!

KINDEST REGARDS

QUINNIE

 

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LEAK 22
This LEAK relates to that wonderful linguist Ryan Quinn ( friend of Michael Watter ) who so eloquently abused the two eminent people referred to in LEAK 19 . Below this narrative is correspondence written to website  http://www.friendsofcassiewatter.net/  by “ QUINNIE  “ .
This paedophile supporter has us genuinely worried about the health and well being of his own children and we sincerely ask that any of you who know him and his children to PLEASE keep an eye on their well being and report ANYTHING remotely suspicious to the Federal Police .
Yes it is difficult for you “ QUINNIE “ that we have picked on the father Michael ( Mick ) who “ is such a great guy and an amazing father  “
“ QUINNIE “ as you suggest , we would LOVE nothing more than to get this poor women and her kids out of hiding so that we can ( as per your suggestion ) ask THEM  !!
Is it NOT enough that these children have disclosed their sexual abuse to so many different people that YOU would need personally to ask them whether or not they have been raped , whether or not they have been asked to play with their fathers penis , whether or not their father has often played with their vaginas ?
Would you even believe them if they told you to your face that their father had raped them ? I do not think so given the fact that you have been so successfully groomed by the father or perhaps there is a deeper , darker , ulterior motive ?
Would you personally like to see the pictures of their vaginas that have been hurt so badly that they cry and keep asking SOMEONE – ANYONE to PLEASE tell Daddy to STOP TOUCHING THEIR VAGINAS ?
WE HAVE THESE PICTURESLet me tell YOU what is sickening !
  1. YOU make me sick !
  2. YOU and your blind support of the father make me sick !
  3. YOU and your emails , abusing good , honest people who want nothing but that this case be RE INVESTIGATED , make me sick !
  4. Have YOU even read these LEAKS from 1-21 so far ?
  5. ALL your relatives have , I am sure , as they have all had copies delivered to their facebook inbox !
If YOU see nothing that concerns you about the corruption and ineptitude displayed by the very people that are supposed to protect these children then “ QUINNIE  “ it is YOU that worries me more than anything else .
I worry for your children and your good wife and would like to sit down and talk to them just to make sure they are OK and that YOU have not picked up any bad habits from your mate Michael Watter who is such a great guy and such an amazing father !
We told you previously that we were giving you the benefit of doubt in this matter but in your wisdom you took it upon yourself to swear at , to threaten , and to continue to threaten good people !
Well “ QUINNIE  “ you are welcome to this forum to explain yourself and your actions ! PLEASE come forward as I am sure the Quinn and Hann family members would like to see you do so !
READ THE LEAKS “ QUINNIE  “ — WE BEG YOU TO DO SO !
By the way we have the correspondence referred to here below so that as/if/when the Federal Police decide to RE INVESTIGATE this case we will happily provide it to them .

I’m not sure who, what or why you would even have a website and email, that supports the actions of this Mother?? I can only imagine you don’t have a clue about the entirety of what has happened and what these kids have been through? Secondly, you obviously don’t know the facts nor have the whole story about this case because if you did, this wouldn’t be a website and this email wouldn’t have to be sent!! Take it from someone who knows both parties and has been and seen this right from the beginning, you are WRONG!!!! No two ways about it, I’m not supporting someone who’s alleged to have don’t these horrible things, I’m supporting him because he’s hasn’t and is being falsely accused!!! It’s sickening to see the hate being aimed at the father because Michael (Mick) is such a great guy and an amazing father!!! If you think otherwise, get HER out of hiding and ask the kids??? A year and a half is plenty of time to further brainwash these 2 poor innocent victims, Cassie has filled their heads and coached them before so, again let’s ask THEM!!!

People like you, who hide behind a website (of the poorest quality by the way) with “real testimonials” ha ha PLEASE?!?!? Are shameful, sit down with a reporter of your choice and give them your side of the story and what evidence you have to support it??? What you got to lose? You’ve got no credibility to start with so its only up from here!!!

Regards

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LEAK 22
Please Share and Sign This Petition (Click Here) . The Domestic Violence Order was issued against Michael Watter on 09/11/2011. Custody of Cassie’s twin girls Isabella and Bronte was given to the father Michael Watter by Judge Coker on 09/12/2011
RE INVESTIGATE THIS JUDGE AND HIS DECISION
Reasons for the DVO were that Michael Watter used verbal abuse , emotional abuse , financial abuse and wilful damage to frighten and control Cassie Watter .
In addition to the above friends of Michael Watter , Stephen and Sheree Heilbronn , revealed private information about Cassie’s prior sexual abuse to her parents .The parents were 76 and 70 years old at the time .
Stephen and Sheree Heilbronn had previously THREATENED Cassie by text that they were going to disclose this information to her parents as well as anyone else she knew and the Department of Communities .
Note the loving , caring , kind , unselfish little man’s words upon entering the house and swearing at his wife in front of the children by calling her a “ RUDE FUCKING BITCH  “ as well as calling her a “ STUPID FUCKING BITCH “ and “ DUMB BITCH “ in the motor vehicle whilst the children were present .
Note the kind , loving caring husband’s approach to the counsellor at Relationships Australia because he believed the counsellor was biased against him .
Note the mother’s protective action of locking herself and the children in the bedroom to protect themselves from further verbal abuse by Michael Watter .
Note the kind , loving , caring , husband’s verbal and physical abuse of his wife whilst she “ WAS NAKED AND COWERING IN THE CORNER  “ .
Note the COWARDS BULLYING PHYSICAL ABUSE OF HIS DAUGHTER in grabbing her arm so hard that she was crying and screaming for her mother to take her . Note the little man was refusing to let her go and HURTING his daughter for trying to protect her mother . READ the details of the DVO and SEE what kind of a person this little man is !
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Abusive police officers and Social Welfare ! #Leak20 #WikiDetectives

 

LEAK 20

This article we found to be VERY revealing regarding the actions of the Police Officer Rob Garnett and the Social Weflare Officer Merle McNulty . Dr. Pamela D. Schultz OAM has written this article relating to the interview of Cassie by the police and Child Protection . You will note from her correspondence that this good lady is NOT impressed with both of these officers , their method of questioning AND their evident bias !

For the ignorant NOT SO FEW including the little man who is so kind , loving , caring , unselfish and devoted to his children , please NOTE that this eminent lady is more than qualified to comment on the abuse by these officers of Cassie Watter . ( Just in case you feel her qualifications are needed you little man ! )

We understand there are no pictures ( never mind Maree , never mind Michael ) and the level of communication will be WAY ABOVE your understanding as we see it but it is evident that the individuals concerned with the interview of Cassie have a specific bias against her and use their bullying tactics to discredit her .

This information is then passed on to the Judge , who makes his recommendations , based on this information , irrespective of the truth of the matter. Never mind the IN YOUR FACE fact that there was a current DVO issued against this kind , loving , devoted little man !

 

http://bit.ly/pamela-report

On the basis of this document and the information contained therein there must be a RE INVESTIGATION HELP FREE THE WATTER TWINS AND THEIR MOTHER CASSIE .

 

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Bullies, cowards , paedophiles and the like ! #Leak19 #WikiDetectives

LEAK 19

The below detailed correspondence was sent to two individuals who are known to us . Please Share and Sign This Petition (Click Here) . I have copies of the correspondence for future use when and if the Federal Police decide to do something about opening this RE INVESTIGATION . Said correspondence relates to one of the first times we begun exposing this little man .

These little men Watter and Quinn , in their wisdom , erroneously thought , correspondence directed at Watter , had come from these two people . To their chagrin they have since found out the error of their ways , as this matter , has turned out to be BIGGER than the both of them and their threatening , bullying ways .

Said correspondence was sent from Ryan Quinn’s email address . Ryan Quinn is Michael Watter’s little supportive cricket friend . Oh , did I mention previously that ALL the LEAKS have been sent to every cricket club or organisation I found on the internet . Am still sending as there are so many .

We still have copies of further emails from Quinn in spite of his denials at ever having sent said correspondence .

He further informed these good people that he was washing his hands of the matter ( due to our diligence ) and then continued to support Michael Watter on his page .

I think the content of this email gives enough evidence of what type of person we are dealing with .

The trouble is he has two small children as well . Does the word LIAR come to mind ?

Does the word BULLY come to mind ? Note we have OTHER correspondence from these dear little men which will be of interest to you . Said correspondence having been sent to two eminent , well respected , experts in their fields of child protection and social work .

Note the threats !

Note the language !

We are told that swearing is just a lack of the use of good adjectives ! What do you think Quinnie ?

Note the illiterate level of spelling ! Note the levels to which these people lower themselves !

Why would we be surprised at this ? We ARE dealing with a child rapist and his little supportive buddy ! Don’t worry little Michael , your supporters are trying hard on our page BUT the story IS getting out there !

There will be a RE INVESTIGATION .

Hey Dave,

How are things in the coffee business? Hope the weather is better than last week, bit chilly for this time of year!!! Was interesting seeing you in the flesh but seeing your “special” kid was even more interesting, what happened?? Just a fair warning you sack of shit!!! You have been warned over and over about your recent behaviour and accusations!! We warned you Dave, no more and what did you do???? You emailed him and didn’t take it seriously Dave!!! You silly silly lowlife ball bag, now you’ve gone and aggrevated the 2 people you did NOT ever want in your shop, so this is what you are going to do, you will email your boyfriend and for the very last time, apologise for being a scumbag and explain that you will NOT be entertaining these tactical games you two so very poorly play, then you will delete his email, block him entirely and write to the people he has hurt the most [you know who we are talking about Dave] and accept the truth for what it is and explain it to them!!!! Print this if you need to Dave, you will NOT BE GIVEN ANOTHER CHANCE DAVE!!!! Tomorrow, when you’re sitting in your lounge and reading for your routine downtime, peak out the window a couple of times and the two Mediteranean looking gentleman who give you a wave, are waving for the last time Dave, your shop is the next visit Dave and I’m urging you to understand the enormity of this kind warning, your family needs you by the look of your retarded son HE needs you Dave, be there for him won’t you, wipe his drool and give him a high five but most importantly tell him how much you love him Dave, nothing worse you not getting those words in when you can!!!! Sleep tight You Low Life, Ignorant, self obsorbed, Fat and out of shape son of a bitch!!!!! Oh something else, your wife is not even worth a mention, you have picked the rotten fruit from a disease ridden tree there!!! Do you actually have lenses in those glasses or are they intentionally blurry to avoid having to see her….what were your words in an email you sent to a friend of ours?? OH YES her “UGLY MUG” ha ha ha ha, fucking loser!!! Your choices have repercussions Dave, please be a dear and grab those little shriveld balls of yours and FUCK off back to your hole!!! Sad lonely, abused as a child Dave McLaughlin people, in the flesh HOPEFULLY FOR MORE THAN ONE LAST TIME!!!!! Kindest Regards, Your Karma Biting Past!!! PS don’t let hating move to your shop online either, it’s an income source, unlike your boyfriend who has multiple forms and couldn’t care if you disappeared either!!!

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Do you trust the police viewed here ? We do NOT ! Video Interview 3 Part 1 #Leak18 #WikiDetectives

LEAK 18

Interview 3 Part 1—Bronte

The major part of this interview revolves around Bronte answering “ I don’t know “ and  “ NO “ to 99% of the questions asked  . It is apparent , that , unlike the first interview ,  Bronte is no longer trusting of the police !Note the father’s coaching may be picked up on many occasions amongst the confusion .

Note the disclosure around the 14.45 mark . Has Daddy ever touched you when you don’t want him to touch you and the child answers “ YES “ and when asked for more information replies “ I don’t know  “ — no coaching there hey Michael ?

28.55 mark . Note that when asked “ Would you like to go back to Daddy’s house “ there was a firm shake of the head !

When asked “ why not “ – answers “ I don’t know “

When asked “Would you go and visit Daddy alone with Isabella , would you like to do that ? “ A firm  “ NO  “

This poor child does not know where to turn !

Now WHY do you think these children do not want to go and visit their kind , loving , caring , considerate , unselfish and supportive father ?

I will give you one guess and if the answer involves child rape then YOU win the teddy bear !

Note the supporters of Michael Watter that have placed remarks on the page ! Note one of these supporters , Maree Harris who has such glowing testimony about this kind , loving caring , considerate , unselfish and supportive father on his “ Help Find Isabella and Bronte “ page  states that there is no medical evidence so it must be FALSE information ! It cannot be proven medically !

What an IGNORANT , SANCTIMONIUS and STUPID observation !

No wonder this cowardly bullying little man has gotten away with it for so long with the support of such ignorant individuals ! These people need to go back to one of the previous LEAKS and get someone to read it to them in a LOUD VOICE , in particular , the part about being BLIND because I did not draw any pictures for them — so very sorry !!

We are NOT looking for any support !

All we want is the TRUTH out there and a  RE INVESTIGATION

Help us FREE THE WATTER TWINS AND THEIR MOTHER !

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One perverted , sickening , little man ! Cassies Diary Part 2 #Leak17 #WikiDetectives

LEAK 17
CASSIE’S DIARY PART 2
There are no words to describe the horror these two children have been through with their perverted , rapist father !
THIS LITTLE , BULLYING, COWARD , WHO RAPES LITTLE GIRLS !! THIS PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A SO CALLED MAN !! NEVER MIND THE FACT ,  YOU , HIS SUPPORTERS ARE ALSO TO BLAME FOR THE CONTINUED RAPE OF HIS LITTLE GIRLS !!
SAY WHAT YOU LIKE AFTER HAVING READ ALL OF THESE LEAKS —  THERE IS NO LONGER ANY EXCUSES FOR SUPPORTING THIS VILE ,SICKENING , PERVERTED EXCUSE FOR A MAN !!
THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE ABLE TO , READ WHAT “GROOMING “  IS ALL ABOUT AND THEN TELL ME YOU HAVE NOT BEEN GROOMED !! YOU DISGUST ME ALMOST AS MUCH AS HE DOES !!
Note Michael Watter , that I personally , will MAKE SURE the information on this page is spread to every sports organisation there is in Australia, to every junior school and senior school , to every sports club , cricket club , cycling club ( for Heilbronn’s benefit ) rugby club and golf club that I can possibly reach .
Note also Michael Watter , that I personally will MAKE SURE the information on this page is shared with every and any physiotherapist , Doctor’s Associations and Nurses Associations .
Note also Michael Watter , that I personally will make sure that not only will this information be dispersed AGAIN to all your relatives , I will continue to share this UPDATED page with the Heilbronn families , the Hann families , the Quinn families and the Kearney families .
Note also Michael Watter , that I personally will update EVERY Rotary Club and Lion’s Club in Australia about your child raping tendencies .
Note also Michael Watter , as long as I am alive , I will continue pushing this issue so that the matter is RE INVESTIGATED so that the truth will be OUT about you and your paedophile mates .
Think about it Michael Watter – you can NO LONGER HIDE under the secrecy of the family court and the corrupt individuals therein !
ALL the revelations of what you have done are now out there with supporting documents and testimony and as and when more information comes in , be certain , I WILL continue to share it and I DO NOT CARE HOW LONG IT TAKES ME !
Diary continued
  1. Note the Heilbronns lied under oath . Perjured themselves . Really good upstanding Rotarians they are !
  2. Note Michael Watter’s continued verbal abuse and rudeness .
  3. This poor excuse for a human being shows what a BIG BRAVE MAN he is by abusing his children ( never mind sexually ) by playing mind games with them .
  4. He tells them their mother never wants to see them again .
  5. He tells them their grandparents never want to see them again .
  6. The children draw pictures for their mother and he throws the pictures in the bin – oh what a MAN !
  7. Michael Watter says to the children that Cassie is not their mother .
  8. Michael says to the children that Sheree Heilbronn is their mother .
  9. BIG BRAVE MAN playing mind games with 5 year old girls .
  10. Note how he always interferes with the children talking to their mother as he hates it so much .
  11. Note the continued lying by the father to the children about Cassie’s friends and the supervisors and will not let the children talk to them . .
  12. Note the father’s comments to the children that their mother only wants to see them twice a week .
  13. Note Michael Watter keeps telling the children that they have  NO “ safe people “ .
  14. Note the father says to the little girls that their mother Cassie is not safe and only he is .
  15. Note how often the girls comment on words their father keeps using to put words , thoughts and ideas into their minds .
  16. Note how often the girls say that the father calls them liars .
  17. Note Isabella says Daddy won’t tell the truth . That he gets angry when she tells the truth  and it isn’t fair because ne needs to tell the truth and he won’t and and he still “PLAYS THE RUDE GAME “ and he said you made us say it but it was a lie .
  18. Note the continued abuse and bias from Child Safety .
  19. Note how often the children beg and plead not to go back to their father .
  20. Note how often the children keep asking why they cannot go back to live with their mother .
Note the continued disclosures of sexual abuse by the children :-
  1.  Isabella says that one of her wishes came true in that Daddy does not play with her vagina any more .
  2.  Bronte said her wish didn’t and Dad was still angry
  3.  Note Isabella’s disclosure to Rae Greaves that Daddy “PLAYED WITH THEIR VAGINAS IN THE ROOM AND ON THE COUCH “
  4.  Note that Bronte disclosed that Dad “MADE THEM PLAY WITH HIS PENIS “ and that he tried to make Isabella do the same and she said NO .
  5. Note Bronte said that Dad didn’t play with them but that Dad “ MADE HER PLAY WITH HIS PENIS “
  6. Isabella disclosed again that Daddy “ USED TO PLAY WITH HERS AND BRONTE’S VAGINAS “ BUT DOESN’T DO IT ANY MORE — NOTE THE FATHER’S COACHING KICKING IN !
  7. Note the disclosure that “ THEY HAVE TO PLAY WITH DADDY’S PENIS IN THE BEDROOM AND THAT IT STANDS UP AND THEY FOUND IT TO BE SCARY SOMETIMES “
  8.  Note how Isabella discloses to Rae Greaves AGAIN  “DADDY STILL PLAYS WITH MY VAGINA “
  9. Bronte discloses the the girls “ HAVE TO PLAY WITH DADDY’S PRIVATE PARTS BUT ISABELLA SAID NO SO I LOCKED HER IN THE ROOM “ – HOW IS THE SHOW OF CONCERN FOR HER SISTER ? BRAVE LITTLE GIRL !
  10.  Note Bronte’s disclosure “ THAT DADDY PLAYED WITH HER VAGINA TODAY “ AND WHEN ASKED TO REPEAT THE DISCLOSURE SAID NO .
  11.  Note Bronte said she was not allowed to tell anyone “ THAT DADDY WAS PLAYING WITH HER VAGINA “
  12.  Note that Isabella said “ DADDY IS PLAYING WITH MY VAGINA AND WON’T STOP “
  13.  Note , Bronte humming to herself ( happy ) says that daddy “ ONLY PLAYS WITH MY VAGINA SOMETIMES NOW SO IT IS OK “ – HOW SAD IS IT THAT SHE WAS SMILING AS IF IT WAS THE BEST THING IN THE WORLD ?              k Note that the children’s “ VAGINA’S ARE SORE AND RED “
  14. Note Bronte said “ DADDY DID PLAY WITH OUR TUSHKAS AND ISABELLA “
  15.  Note the child’s disclosure at the dinner table in front of MANY people that “ DADDY CALLS BRONTE A LIAR AND HE PLAYS WITH OUR VAGINAS “ She then says “ DADDY IS GOING TO BE REALLY ANGRY WITH ME “
  16. Bronte whispered to Cassie that “DAD ASKED THEM TO PLAY WITH HIS PENIS “ and that she wanted to tell Rhonda ‘.
  17. Isabella then says that “HE PLAYS WITH OUR VAGINAS SOMETIMES TO “
  18.  Isabella discloses to Ginni Hall that Daddy calls Bronte a liar and that she is not a liar and “ DADDY PLAYS WITH THEIR VAGINAS “
  19. Note how often this BIG BRAVE MAN is rude to the supervisors .
  20. Note the fatherly consideration when Michael Watter dumps Cassie’s and the girl’s household goods outside the grandparent’s gate in the open .
  21. Note the BIG difference in the continued concern of the mother for the children and the disdain and lack of concern by the father :– He is the epitome of selfishness !
  22. Note how the father continues to hide the children’s phones and will not read them their messages and tells them they will not get any treats until they hang up the phone .
  23. Note the little girl’s wish at the wishing well :- that they wish they could be with their mother for ever and then Bronte made a wish that she would not have to go back to Dad .
  24. Note the continued selfishness of Michael Watter in keeping Cassie’s goods and furniture even though he contributed NOTHING towards the purchase thereof .
  25. Note the father took the children out of a Christian school and put them into a public school and note that he said the children could no longer attend religious lessons :- very apparent which side of heaven and hell this putrid little man is !
  26. Note how much time the children spend at the Heilbronn’s in spite of the lies told by the father about them being in his care .
  27. Note how the ICL discloses private and confidential information to Michael Watter and his lawyers .
  28. Note Bronte said she was in trouble for talking to Miss Ginny – one wonders HOW MANY times this coward threatened his own children ?
  29. Note the girls description of the father deliberately killing the dragon fly . That incident alone shows what type of person he is .
TAKE NOTE OF THE FOLLOWING PAGES
PAGE 124
Dear Terry ,
        Last Thursday 29th March , I moved into my new house . I was not supposed to collect the keys for the house until Friday , and very few people knew that I was staying at the house on the Thursday night . I did not even know myself until mid-afternoon when I had the basics moved in and decided it would be a good idea to stay there , unpack and organise . Also the previous tenants had not cleaned out the cupboards so I knew there was going to be more to do than I hoped .
        I had placed padlocks on the front gates , and I remember locking the front door before I went to bed . My parents , Aunty and Uncle had been over helping me move , and I padlocked the gates on their departure . My father had purchased the padlocks prior to me moving in to place on the gates leading to the undercover area of the house so that I could store things under there . I moved two of the locks from the rear doors to the area , and placed them on the front gates .
        I stayed up quite late unpacking , but do not remember what time I went to bed/went to sleep .
        At one stage during the night I woke up suddenly as a hand was placed over my mouth and partially covering my nose . I could not breathe properly . I remember smelling latex . My right arm swung up automatically and connected with what felt like an elbow . It then rebounded and hit the bed head . The hand covering my mouth was removed . My arms were then pinned to the bed . I took a deep breath in , and was told if I screamed I would never see my children again . I recognised Michael’s voice . I froze . While keeping my arms pinned he leaned in very close and aggressively but ‘ quietly  ‘ started talking . I do not remember clearly everything that was said . I do remember being told very forcefully that I was a ‘ fucking slut ‘ that needed to ‘ keep my mouth shut ‘ . I was accused of ‘ sucking up to that fucking childrens’ lawyer  ‘ and that I would ‘ pay for it one way or another – and if you don’t your precious little girls will ‘ . I just laid very still as I was terrified . I was frozen . At one point he released my arms and started poking the tops of my legs telling me to ‘ spread them ‘ . After a few times I did so . I thought he was going to rape me again . He fondled me gently which for some reason terrified me even more . He then laughed and told me that I was too old and fat and ugly and hairy that he ‘ preferred them in the single digits ‘ . I started sobbing . He made a snoring sound and stood up . He said that I could do what I wanted but he was going to win . He said that the police would never believe me now . He said they knew I was just another ‘ fucking psycho bitch ‘ . He said if I told anyone he would never let me see the girls again . He left . I do not remember much after that . I stayed in my bed and just shook and cried until it became daylight . I then went to the shower . I do not know how long I stayed in there but the water was cold and I still stayed there . Then I realised I still had to move things . I realised that my parents were expecting me . I knew that I could not tell anyone . I knew that I had a chance of seeing the girls that day and I could not do anything to jeopardise that . I took a valium for the first time in a few weeks . They had been prescribed to me by my GP the day my girls were removed from my care . Then I started moving again . I felt like I was moving on auto pilot . I did take photos of the bruises after a couple of days . I did not do anything with them . They are just on my phone . Then last night ( Monday ) when I received a message from Michael saying that if Rae didn’t contact him within the hour the girls would not be allowed to see me something in me snapped and I broke down . I was with Savvy and Ray Francis and they did not know why I was acting as I was . They had just given me some new glassware for the house . I came home . I stayed up all night again . I have not slept much since Thursday .
        I decided to tell you this morning because I don’t think it is right that the girls and I live like this . I don’t know if you are Christian but I don’t understand how God is letting this happen . Surely there is something that can be done to help us . I just don’t know what . Whenever I have tried to do something it has been the wrong thing and we have just been placed in more danger . I don’t understand . I know that you and Mr. Fellows have been helping but I don’t understand . This can’t be right . I have been a nice person . I have tried my best to protect them and have only ended up putting them in harms’ way . I left with nothing to try and protect all of us . I don’t understand how this is allowed to happen . I don’t understand why the people who are supposed to protect us do not believe us . I don’t understand .
        Cassie
THIS IS A FATHER AND HUSBAND WHO HAS RAPED HIS OWN WIFE AND RAPES HIS OWN CHILDREN !THIS IS A POOR EXCUSE FOR A MAN WHO SHOWS COMPLETE ARROGANCE WITH EVERY THING HE DOES ! THIS COWARD AND BULLY DOES THIS SORT OF THING BECAUSE HE KNOWS HE CAN GET AWAY WITH IT ! WHY DO YOU THINK HE KNOWS AND BELIEVES HE CAN GET AWAY WITH IT ?
RE INVESTIGATE AND PUT THIS PATHETIC EXCUSE FOR A SO CALLED MAN IN JAIL WHERE HE BELONGS !
Page 179
Note the children’s disclosure of the father’s actions in telling the little girls NOT to talk to Mrs.Rae or Ginni or the police ! He wouldn’t say why but just got angry , stomped around the house and locked himself in the bedroom and would not come out to feed the hungry children . Note the girls further disclosures that he left them ALONE often and left them HUNGRY often . He doesn’t listen when the children tell him they are sick and yells at them all the time .
  • WHAT A SELF SERVING , SELFISH , BULLY OF A MAN !
  • A TOTAL COWARD WHO THINKS ONLY OF HIMSELF !
  • DOES NOT CARE ABOUT HIS OWN CHILDREN !
  • ONLY CARES ABOUT HIMSELF !
  • USELESS GRUBBY INDIVIDUAL !
  • THINK ABOUT THIS ALL OF YOU SUPPORTERS OUT THERE !
RE INVESTIGATE AND FREE THESE CHILDREN AND THEIR MOTHER !
Page 209
Bronte said ‘ I keep asking Daddy to stop playing with my vagina but he won’t stop ‘ . Isabella heard and says ‘ What you do Bronte is you use your firm voice and you put your hand up like this ( and raised her hand , palm out signalling stop ) and you say NO STOP it Dad
How tragic is it that two young girls have needed to be taught something like this to say to their own father !
RE INVESTIGATE AND FREE THESE WATTER TWINS AND THEIR MOTHER !

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How strong is your stomach ? Cassie’s Diary Part 1 #Leak16 #WikiDetectives

LEAK 16
Cassie’s diary :- 12/09/2011 – 09/10/2012 Part 1
  1. Note this diary is for an 11 month period .
  2. Note this diary is 216 pages in length .  download Diary.pdf
  3. Note I have actually lost count of how many times the two girls mention and disclose to other people the sexual abuse by the father Michael Watter .
  4. Note it is actually VERY sickening to read this diary !
  5. Note how sickening it is to realise how much sexual abuse these poor girls have had from their father Michael Watter .
  6. Note this diary alone should have been enough to put the father Michael Watter in jail for a long time for sexually abusing his own twin daughters  .
  7. Note the different types of abuse , physical , emotional , controlling , verbal — you name it , he was doing it !
  8. Note how most of the time the girls were NOT happy to visit their father !
  9. Note how many times the children were forced to tears just thinking about having to visit their father Michael Watter .
  10. Note how the police officer Rob Garnett abuses and bullies the mother Cassie .
  11. Note how the Child Protection Worker Merle McNulty abuses and bullies Cassie .
  12. Note how quickly Merle McNulty passes information on what she has discussed with the mother Cassie to the father Michael Watter .
  13. Note the total lack of professionalism exhibited by Garnett and McNulty .
  14. NOTE both of these individuals need to be RE INVESTIGATED .
  15. Note how the children say that the father should draw pictures as well and to “ tell the truth  “ .
  16. Note how Michael Watter drives a motor vehicle just so he can intimidate his wife .
  17. Note how this pervert wanted his daughter to “ tickle  “ his penis .
  18. Note how the children mention his