Cassie Doubleday Twins

Time to have a look at this Mr. Turnbull ? #Leak 78 #WikiDetectives

 

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Why have the police never gotten back to the Grandfather ?

Why would Det Sgt David Miles refuse to take a statement ?

Why would Gaynor Williams from Child Safety do nothing ?

Why would she attempt to conceal her real name ?

Note this little man’s abuse and threats to an elderly couple ! Normally he only abuses little children ! Stepping up a notch was he ?

Why no reply from Commission for Children & Young People & Guardians ?

Note MICHAEL WATTER was able to access Legal Aid in spite of being on a salary of +/- $ 80 000 per annum – we the taxpayer had to foot the bill for this ! Is this not fraud ?

Note the infringements by MICHAEL WATTER and friends relating to instructions from the court and yet nothing done about it ! Nothing suspect about that is there ?

Note the competence of the police in Townsville when the domestic and office premises of the mother were broken into — on all occasions, only documents, relating to the children’s medical records, legal documents, a mobile phone and a couple of laptops were taken —  would be really interesting to read the police procedure and the success of their investigations on these cases don’t you think ?

Note the grandparents do not have a problem with the judiciary — we do  !

Note the mention of bruising around the mother’s throat , arms and legs – perhaps she tried to strangle herself MICHAEL WATTER ?

Note that this brave little man only abuses his own children , an elderly couple AND bashes the dog ! What wonderful attributes this coward has !

Note the efficiency of C.P.I.U. at all times – NOT !

You must be very happy to see how well your government departments are running Mr. Turnbull ?

It is good to see there is not a hint of corruption or inefficiency anywhere within the system ! What do you think Mr. Turnbull ?

A mother and two children in hiding Mr. Turnbull because YOU appear to be more than happy with the system !

 

No reason for a   PUBLIC  RE INVESTIGATION    Mr. Turnbull , is there ?

 

 

The Crime & Misconduct Commission

Ref: M1-13-2646-13/143078

24th April 2014

Att: Mr Bilsborough

 

Dear Sir,

As you are aware, we drove up from Warragul in Victoria, to deliver to yourselves evidence in relation to the allegations made by Bronte & Isabella Watter of their father’s sexual, physical and verbal abuse to them. We were not aware that the C.M.C. does not interview complainants. At the time, I gave a very brief outline of the case to you and was informed that the C.M.C. would contact me, thus expecting to be given the opportunity to present our evidence, in person, to someone. It was unfortunate that this was not the case. (Attached here is the evidence to be investigated.)

We have attempted to contact the police on five different occasions, to report abuse and on each occasion we were told that someone would ‘get back to us’, which never occurred. On 17th Jan 2013, I phoned Det. Snr. Sarg. David Miles, who again refused to take our statement, (The transcript of that conversation is attached).

Our attempts to contact Child Safety were also met with the same response, though on 17th Jan 2013, we had an interview with Ms Gaynor.(transcript attached) You will note that Child Safety refused to accept sexual abuse allegations by referring us to the C.P.I.U. I asked Ms Gaynor her name a few times and on each occasion she said it was Ms Gaynor. We found out later that her name is actually Ms Gaynor Williams.

We visited the Human Rights Commission, in Sydney, on 14th October 2013, who were extremely concerned but the matter was not in their Charter so referred us to the C.M.C. (copy attached)

On 1st October 2012 we complained to the Commission for Children & Young People & Guardians. We did not receive a reply. (Copy attached)

No doubt the C.M.C. is aware that Mrs. Watter has taken the children and disappeared, a crime that carries a prison term, which we accept. We had no idea of her plans to disappear or where she is at present.

On 4th April 2014 at about 6:30pm and after the police had been to our home to inform us of the disappearance of Cassie and the girls, I phoned Mr Watter only to be threatened with violence and jail, if we did not return the girls to his care immediately. I just told him that we didn’t know that they had gone until the police had informed us and also that we had no idea where they could be but he continued his verbal assault so I terminated the call. Mr Watter immediately phoned back to continue his threats of violence and abuse to my wife and I. These threats of abuse and bullying were reported to police. The police officer duly phoned Mr Watter and instructed him to cease the threats immediately.

Mr Michael Watter informed us, two years ago, that his position at Kinnect Health carried a salary of $85 000.00 P/A plus a car yet Mr Watter was able to obtained Legal Aid to subpoena us to Court. This was on two occasions for questioning over the disappearance of the children. In relation to the abduction, the C.P.I.U. or police have not taken statements from us or visited our home.

Mr Watter and his friends have embarked on a vicious campaign to discredit us, Mrs. Watter and her friends.(copies attached) Justice Tree of the Federal Family Court, made it very clear to Mr Watter and us that this case should not be aired in the public arena. Mr Watter, his family and friends appear to have gone beyond the Court restrictions on these matters, especially on social media. We believe this should be addressed and if appropriate Mr. Watter, as well as his family and friends should be charged.

On Sat. May 10th, the day before Mothers Day, we received a phone call from a florist who requested a suitable time for a delivery the next day for a ‘special’ delivery for my wife, Heather. I informed this person that we would be home in the morning but planned to be out for lunch and the rest of the afternoon. The caller seemed to be more interested about when we would be out, rather than home. We became suspicious and subsequently cancelled our arrangements for the next day. No flowers were delivered but, at 11:40am, a metallic grey Nissan X-Trail pulled up opposite our home and parked. When I walked out towards the gate the car sped off then, at 11:50am, Mr Watter came slowly past, whilst looking in. He was driving his red Alfa Romeo. When he noted that we were home he also sped off. Just after 1:00pm, the Nissan returned and pulled up, this time on our side of the road, at the entrance to our driveway and when I again walked out, it sped off. I reported these incidents to C.P.I.U. who simply said that they would talk to Michael.

Mrs. Watter’s residence at 48 Eyre Street North Ward has been subjected to break & enter offences, at least twice. Her business (Child Health & Development Centre) was also subjected to a break & enters offence where a bank safe was removed from its location, taken to another section of the building, and smashed beyond repair. On all occasions, only documents, relating to the children’s medical records, legal documents, a mobile phone and a couple of laptops were taken. No arrests have ever been made in relation to any of these offences.

We wish to make it very clear that we do not have a problem with the judiciary as Justice Tree has gone to extreme lengths to explain everything in minute detail to us and is always extremely polite and kind.

We have known Mr Watter in excess of 16yrs and have witnessed his mental state deteriorate. He is now extremely volatile and cannot control his emotions. We have witnessed bruising around Mrs. Watter’s throat, on her upper arms and legs, on many occasions, during the past few years. Even their dog could not be left at home alone with Mr Watter as he would bash it if it made the slightest sound. The dog was brought around to our place for its safety. Mr Watter has no empathy for anyone or any living thing.(attached is a letter from his maternal grandmother to us dated 20th March 2000, which was written a couple of days before Cassie & Michaels’ Wedding) It is self- explanatory and sadly, his behavior has worsened.

Recently a dragon-fly flew in through the window of Bronte and Isabella’s home. Mr Watter caught it and put it in a class jar, screwed on the lid and then made the girls watch its demise over the next few days and then said, ‘This is what happens to naughty girls!’

Attached, also, is a USB stick with evidence for your information.

Mr Watter has treated all Court Rulings in relation to us with contempt. Mr Watter has held these children in a hostage situation for over two years now, hence our call to the Human Rights Commission to report this and the children’s Human Rights being violated.

We were not aware that Cassie was not allowed to report anything of a sexual abuse nature to police, as they had threatened to charge her if she ever again made a complaint. (Also attached is a copy from Mrs. Watter’s diary entries on the day she told Michael that she was leaving him and some days after, QUITE FRIGHTENING!!)

The last time we saw the girls was on the afternoon 3rd April 2014, both were underweight, weak and with Isabella being very quiet. (She was normally a very chatty little person) Isabella wanted to go to the toilet. Michael took her to a public toilet where he stood just outside the door and refused to allow her grandmother to assist her. Isabella was in the toilet for a time in excess of 15minutes.

We have delivered our diaries, which contain sexual abuse allegations, by their father which the children have made to or in front of us to Child Safety

Since 4th April 2014, when the twins disappeared Mr Watter and his friends (Mr. & Mrs. Stephen & Sheeree Heilbronn) have been stalking us. These events have been reported to C.P.I.U. who said that they ‘Would speak to Michael.’ C.P.I.U. did not take a written statement from us.

To clear this case up, we are prepared to travel to Brisbane to be investigated by the C.M.C. and take signed statements from us.

Yours sincerely

 Arthur & Heather Doubleday

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MICHAEL WATTER , you are such a brave little macho man , but ONLY where babies are concerned !

Tough guy with little girls !

Why do you think your children did not like being with you ?

Let us answer answer the questions for you :-

They did not like being raped ?

They did not like your playing with their vaginas whilst on the toilet ?

They did not like you masturbating yourself ?

They did not like playing with your penis as instructed/ordered to by yourself ?

They did not like you tickling their tooshkas ?

They did not like you rubbing their tooshkas hard with your penis ?

They did not like your friends sexually abusing them ?

They did not like you hurting them ?

They did not like your hurting their mother ?

They did not like your teaching them crude language ?

They did not like you shouting at them ?

They did not like your making them cry ?

They did not like the way you referred to your wife , their mother ?

They did not like you continually hanging up the phone when they were talking to their mother or grandparents ?

They did not like you continually lying to them ?They did not like you playing explicit sexual songs to them ?

They did not like you refusing permission for them to visit their grandparents ?

You did not let them read texts or letters from their mother ?

You threw the letters from the mother in the rubbish bin ?

You are a disgusting , perverted , putrid , bullying , COWARD of a man, with NO saving graces , except , perhaps for the fact that one day you will be dead !

For the future safety of your children  , we would hope this happens sooner than later !

If you do not answer for your sins in this lifetime , and we pray you do , you will most certainly answer for them in the next !

You are a filthy , lying pig , MICHAEL WATTER !

 

PSYCHOLOGICAL DAMAGE & PHYSICAL HARM

 

Nigh on every time that Michael picked up the girls for access visits they would become very quiet and subdued often cry to the point of hysteria and keep stating that they didn’t want to go with him.

4th Nov.         Isabella left a message on our phone. She was sobbing but pleaded with Poppy to come and get her and bring her home to our place so she wouldn’t have to go with her father.

24th Nov.     Bronte told us that Daddy had said that they would be spending more time with him and she didn’t want to. Later both girls are crying and not wanting to go to school as they think that Daddy might pick them up from there after school like he did yesterday.

25th   Nov.      After an access visit, Isabella says, ‘While daddy was getting our lunch he said that husbands can do everything that wives can do but I don’t have a wife, I have a ‘beach’ (bitch).’

28th Nov.     Girls arrive back from access visit screaming. Michael had told them to scream to make out that they didn’t want to return to their Mum.

5th Dec.          Isabella quite sick with very red rash and high temperature. Daddy had given her milk & butter to which she is allergic.

7th Dec.          Both girls not wanting to go for access visit. Isabella states, ‘Daddy is silly because he gives me things to eat that make me sick like he did last time and I had such a sore tummy all night.’ That night Isabella all rashy & hot again.

9th Dec.          Michael awarded full custody of the girls.

11 Dec.          To Willows Markets. Isabella not wanting to return with her father then into Cotters markets where Isabella said that Daddy is still tickling their tooshkas

15th Dec.       Bronte says, ‘Mummy, daddy says that you have been really nasty to him and tried to get him into serious trouble.’

16th Dec.       Isabella, per phone, ‘Why won’t you let us sleep over? Daddy said that you don’t want us to.’ & ‘Daddy only plays with our tooshkas sometimes now, so it is okay!’ Bronte states that Daddy only shouts ‘medium time’

18th Dec.       Cotters Markets morn. Said ‘Hello’ to Michael. He didn’t respond but later said that he was taking girls home for a rest as Isabella sick. 5.30pm. Bronte phoned and wanted her Mum to speak with Isabella as she was really crying. After talking for some minutes as Isabella still crying it was explained that the girls had been out all day with no rest and Michael shouting at them. 7.15pm Bronte phoned and asked her Mum to find a new home as Daddy said that Nana & Poppies’ place was too noisy. Bronte said quickly, I have to go and phone went dead.

20th Dec         Girls arrive for access visit and we are off to a party and Isabella has no undies on. Michael arrives back some 20mins later with undies. We are all at Inclusion Works Office and Michael brings in pants hands them over without speaking to girls or anyone. Later! He late for pick-up and Cassie and I put girls in car and buckle them up. Once again never spoke to girls to even say ‘Hello’.

22 Dec.          On an access visit, Bronte swearing and using crude language which she didn’t do just 2 weeks prior.

24th Dec         Isabella phoned on her dad’s phone as he wouldn’t let her use hers and very sad again. Cassie able to calm and settle her.

25th Dec.       Christmas Day and Isabella phoned on Michael’s phone to say that again Daddy would not allow her to use hers but that Bronte was crying & wouldn’t stop as Daddy was yelling at her. Cassie calmed her. Around to our place and Bronte still very red eyed. Opened Christmas presents, Michael didn’t participate in the excitement but played on his phone. Told us that he had to stop the girls using their phones as it had cost him $80.00 in two days. He didn’t pay anything for phones as Cassie or Auntie Cherie did.

27th Dec          Juan to supervise but only did for 10mins then spent rest of time watching cricket and news on TV.

2nd Jan 2012.            Isabella said that Daddy said that Poppy was scary.

4th Jan.           Girls’ birthday and not able to reach them on their phones. Party at which 22 children plus parents attend and prepared by Cassie & Aunty Cherie. Michael did not participate or try to interact with any of the girls’ friends or parents. As leaving, stated, ‘Trying to buy the girls love with I-Pods!’ No thanks for giving the girls a great time.

10th Jan.        Isabella crying in the bathroom and when I went in she said that Daddy had told them that they could have a sleep-over and now he says we can’t.

15th Jan          After movies and girls clinging to Mum for ages and didn’t want to go back to father, he put them in the car and then Cassie quietly said, ‘Michael the girls aren’t happy. We need to talk about it.’ He instantly became angry and shouted at Cassie, ‘You need to sort yourself out!’ Cassie replied, ‘What do you mean?’ and then he shouted back, ‘You know what I mean!’ He jumped into the car, slammed the door and started to back out, nearly hitting a car coming into the parking area. Obvious that he is not intending to try to give the girls any happiness.

18th Jan          Bronte states, Daddy doesn’t like your family, Mummy so we should either.’ Later, the girls play their recorders to explicit sexual song which Michael is playing on his phone.

23rd Jan.        First day of school. Cassie asked Michael if he would take Bronte’s drink bottle and lunch out of her bag to be taken into the classroom while she did Isabella’s. He immediately became white with anger, snatching the bag, which dislodged the drink bottle which then fell to the ground below the verandah.

24th Jan.        Isabella says, in front of Michael, ‘Mummy, I only want to spend one night with Daddy and one thousand nights with you.’ Then Bronte says, ‘I want to spend one-hundred-thousand nights with you and none with Daddy. Daddy is just so nasty.’   Michael stomped off. At home, later. Isabella jumps up onto the lounge in view of Arth, Michael & me. She did not have any undies on and her vaginal area was so red and raw looking to the point of bleeding. Arth immediately suggested to Michael that he and Cassie take Isabella to the doctor but he refused saying that she didn’t need to. I went down the hallway just as Bronte was coming out of her bedroom. I commented to her about Isabella’s sore tooshka and she said, ‘That’s what happens when Daddy rubs us too hard with his penis!’ Short time later as the girls were stalling, as usual to not go off with their father, they were checking on the kittens when Cassie said that they would soon have to be given away. Isabella immediately started to cry and said, ‘Don’t give the kittens away. Then they will not have a Mummy, like us.’ Cassie received a text that evening to warn her that Michael’s ‘people’ would be watching her very closely, tomorrow.

5th Feb.          Arth & I visited girls at 20 Oldenberg Place Kelso. Asked how they were going at school and they wouldn’t answer. We went around to try and get Michael to agree for some access for us as grandparents but he wouldn’t discuss it but sent an e-mail a couple of weeks later refusing us permission to see the girls so they have been cut off from all family and friends.

From 9th Dec 2011 to 24th Jan 2012, Michael appointed himself as supervisor and during that time the girls came over to our place nearly every Tues & Thurs afternoon and again on Sunday mornings for a family bar-b-cue breakfast. In all that time very rarely did Michael ever engage with the girls and they certainly did not go near him and when Michael would stand up and go near the divider bench of the kitchen, as a sign that it was time to go, the girls would find all sorts of activities to do to delay their departure. Cassie, at first, would tell the girls that they needed to get ready to go but she ended up not saying anything to them as she felt that Michael could have just said something like, ‘Righto! girls, pack up as we need to get going.’ but he never ever did. If they delayed too much he would stand by the car, looking furious, but still never speak. There were never any words of encouragement or assurance from him to the girls.

30th. March 2012.            Court approved supervised access for Cassie & girls begin again today. Cassie has moved.

1st April.         Girls came over for a visit. So glad to see Poppy & I but a little reserved with everybody else except Clarissa who played with the girls and they all had a happy time together but were very reluctant to leave. They have lost weight as their little arms are just so thin.

8th April.        Girls over again today and wanted to stay here and didn’t want to go back to Dad as they said that the always so mean and nasty and always making them cry.

15th April       Isabella sick so moved from Rossiter Park to home ( with Michael’s approval) Again they didn’t want to leave and return to their father.

29th April       Have had Arth in & out of hospital for a couple of weeks and girls visited him there but today they are here at home and yet again found all sorts of thing to do to delay their departure and it ended up being a rush to get them back in time for the change-over.

Arth has been in hospital again and had to have a pacemaker inserted then had a few adverse reactions to same but seem ok now.

13th May       Mothers Day and had bought some gifts for the girls to wrap for their Mum. They were thrilled & so happy wrapping the gifts, signing the card and then giving the presents to their Mum.

3rd June.        Over to Cassie to have the delayed ‘Biggest Morning Tea’ with the girls. Was supposed to be last week-end and when I asked Bronte what had happened she just said, ‘Daddy wouldn’t let us come’.

7th. June.       Up at school and when time to leave, saying ‘goodbye’ to girls when Isabella states, ‘Tomorrow is Mummy Day, the next day is Mummy day and the next day is Mummy day. The good days are only Mummy days.’ I gave both girls big hugs and kisses but left with a very heavy heart.

8th June.         Visit girls at Cassie and they are sad because they will not be seeing Mum tomorrow at Relationships Australia as Michael has cancelled the Saturday access visit. One of the ‘Good Days’ taken from them.

14th June       Arth, Cassie & I at school as Cass & I helping in class. Girls arrive and Michael never spoke to anyone of the parents going into or coming out of the classroom and never said ‘goodbye’ to the girls. Cass had to leave and when Isabella discovered that she would not be back that day she started to cry.

19th June.      Sent the girls a text on their new phone. They had reported that the others had gone missing some weeks prior. They said that they had heard it come in but dad had not allowed them to look at it.

22nd June       Over to visit girls at Cassie’s with friends Christine & Wattie who know the girls and have always been ‘great mates’. The girls very distant with us all. Won’t let us hug them or even touch them in any way.

24th June       Girls not allowed access today.

19th July         Arth back in Hosp. Fluid around the heart.

22nd July        Girls visit Arth in Hosp. Very quiet and subdued and certainly not the little chatterboxes who lived with us last year. Very reluctant to give hugs whereas they were always cuddling up to us.

7th Aug.          Cassie & girls over for a visit and when told time to go, Bronte started to cry and didn’t want to put her shoes & socks on in preparation. 8 months after Michael given full custody and they still do not want to return to him. Poor Bronte looked just so deflated and defeated.

21st Aug.        Visit girls at Cassie’s and they wouldn’t give either Arth or I a hug and were very quiet with Bronte crying. Finally were given a reluctant hug as we were leaving but it just seems that they are scared to talk to anyone.

23 Aug – 1st Sept.    Have been over to visit the girls at Cassie’s a couple of times but they are scared to come near us and so keep their distance and won’t talk.

12th Sept.      Over at Cassie’s again and watching the girls play the organ (Cassie out in kitchen). Isabella looks up and sees me there and gets this look of sheer fright on her face. She sidled up the side of the bed, climbed over it and ran out to her Mum. What or who has made her so scared of her Nana?

In all the time that we have had the girls with us and since Michael has had them in his full care, I have never, ever heard them say anything nice about him. They only refer to him as angry, boring, naughty, not safe, silly, mean or nasty. There have just never been any positive comments with regard to their father but have heard them so often telling their Mum how much they love her and want to be with her.

 

PUBLICLY RE INVESTIGATE THIS CASE !!

 

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The first section highlighted in blue on this page we previously posted in Leak 13 .

See below the balance of the conversation .

This case is getting international exposure Mr. Turnbull – what exactly are you doing about it ?

See all the comments Mr. Turnbull !

Why not show the world you have a pair Mr. Turnbull and do something about the corruption in the police and child protection services in Townsville !

We know there are only a select few individuals that need looking at ,  but whilst you are at it , why not enquire about the Queensland Police Commissioner Ian Stewart who appears to have a problem looking at or listening to evidence pertaining to this case and yet has NO problem determining that the mother is guilty and that the children should be handed back to their father to be sexually abused !

Why not do that Mr. Turnbull and prove to us you are a man of action and not someone who supports these cover ups through inaction !

Help us to free the twins Mr. Turnbull !

 

 

https://www.facebook.com/SafeKidsInternational

 

Aussie Protective Mom Cathy Escapes into Hiding with Twin Girls!

Help Support Her and STOP the HUNT:
Call or email Attorney General Jarrod Bleijie
Email: Attorney@ministerial.qld.gov.au
Call: 324 79068

You can write your own email or copy and paste:

Dear Attorney General Bleijie,

Safe Kids International has made me aware of a serious injustice being committed within your jurisdiction. A mother who has been trying to protect her children from sexual abuse was not able to due to evidence being dismissed and concealed by the police, judges and safety officers.

Dismissal of evidence of sexual abuse and placement with paternal perpetrators is an international human rights crisis. See: www.RightsForWomenAndChildren.org.

The Royal Commission has even been petitioned by Bravehearts (http://www.bravehearts.org.au/

) and others to include Family Courts in their investigation of the cover up of sexual abuse.

Please do not be a party to this cover up and persecution of this wonderful protective mother and children who have thousands of supporters from all over the world. We are asking you to do the right thing and stop the hunt and dismiss the charges against her. You can see some of the mountain of evidence of abuse on Safe Kids International FB page: www.facebook.com/SafeKidsInternational. But of course you can get ALL the evidence on your own and see for yourself.

Please help save this mother and her precious children.

Thank you

The same pattern is occurring in PM Catherine’s case as has occurred in hundreds of thousands of other cases worldwide: mothers try and protect their children from abuse and custody is switched to the abusive father through false findings of alienating or coaching by mom. The mother is placed on supervised visitation to silence them about the abuse and the abuse continues.

The mainstream media has taken the father’s side in this case, as is so often the case when mothers give up on the system and go into hiding. So we present here, in social media, the mother’s and children’s side.
[Here is the one-sided “investigative” report: http://aca.ninemsn.com.au/article/8837023/three-weeks-and-no-sign-of-missing-twin-girls

]

EVIDENCE:

A report by a renowned expert in sexual abuse describes the abuse of KIDS in DANGER: Twins Bronte and Isabella, from the age of 2 years to the time their Protective Mom Catherine successfully escaped family court injustice and went into hiding this April. The girls are now nearly 8 years old.

For a period of eighteen months, the girls had been disclosing child sexual abuse to at least thirteen different people, pleading, “Please ask daddy to stop hurting my vagina/tushka”. At times, they described the appearance of their father’s sexually aroused penis and they also exhibited inappropriate sexual behaviours. A child psychologist confirmed the belief that the children had been abused but police ignored her AND the twelve other witnesses.

The child safety officer seems to have missed these interviews with the children. It would appear that she’d already decided that the mother, the director of a paediatric health centre, was “training” the children to make false reports against the father for vindictiveness and, as a result of the officers’ opinion, the children were removed by the Family Court and placed in the care of the accused father. The children then had restricted, supervised contact with their mother.

Complaints about the father’s behaviour continued subsequent to the interviews. Amazingly, police and safety officer concluded that one of the twins DREAMT having sex with her father when she was only two years old and although she cannot remember the dream, this is the explanation they give for all the complaints made over an 18 month period by both girls when they were aged 4-6. It is significant that the reference to a dream was actually introduced by police.

Police instructed the mother to dismiss future disclosures of sexual abuse by the children, banned the mother from reading a child protection story book that is published by a government funded organisation and recommended by the child safety organisation, told the mother that future allegations of sexual abuse will not be investigated, threatened the mother that if she examines their genitals when they complain of soreness, she will be arrested.

The list of persons receiving the reports of abuse includes a psychologist, a psychiatrist, an occupational therapist and five different contact supervisors none of whom appear to have been interviewed. The sexually abusive behaviour was described as: the father rubbing his penis against the vaginas of the 5-year old twins and making them sore; the father “playing” with his penis; his penis went stiff when the child had to play with it; the father telling the children that the game was a secret; the father telling the children that police cannot be trusted; the father being angry because the girls had reported being abused. The children were examined by a GP who made notifications of abuse to the Department. Vaginal cystitis, sores and prolonged vaginal pain were reported.

Police ignored the reports made by professionals such as the psychiatrist and psychologist, a former employee of the Child Safety Department who reported child sex abuse to the authorities and sent a copy of a child’s sexually explicit drawing with the child’s statement that daddy placed his penis between her legs. The psychiatrist pointed out that “the father had custody of the children for more than 95% of the time and it seems strange that the Department is pointing the finger at the mother for her children’s abnormal behaviour given that she has had relatively little time with them.”

The explanations police gave for the disclosures of abuse were contradictory and so unprofessional that Australia’s leading experts on child sexual crimes and discourse analysis were invited to analyze the documentation. As a result of their findings, a formal complaint was lodged with Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission, which appointed a police inspector to investigate the handling of this case by police.

Local police banned PM Catherine from making further reports, so in April, after years of trying to protect her precious daughters, she fled into hiding. When she is located, she will be imprisoned and the children will be returned to the father. Unless Attorney General Jarrod Bleijie stops this injustice. Please email or call him and ask him to help protect them.

*We at Safe Kids International support PM Catherine in her act of civil disobedience.

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Julie Olson Protect those kids! ! The courts won’t!

9 August at 11:04 · Like · 7

Tina Parsons Neither will the Attorney General or any other politician. Who do you think appoints these judges (against our Constitution)?? They are all in it up to their necks. We have much evidence of all of this now (check out the many posts on my timeline).

No, We the people MUST help each other!! Start an underground movement & take it OFF of facebook!!!

9 August at 11:37 · Like · 15

Linda Bennett Victims are NOT protected in Australia

9 August at 12:10 · Like · 6

Donna Parker I can’t do this right now (on a mobile device) but want to be able to find it when I get to a computer. Could you please e-mail this post to me at Luke.Kirschmann.Foundation@gmail.com?

9 August at 12:18 · Like

June Wiest I too am mobile
Please pm me the post. My message box is open. Thank you!

9 August at 12:55 · Like

Tina Parsons Donna & Julie, FB has a new feature (in your left hand bar) to allow you to save links etc for later browsing

9 August at 13:30 · Like · 1

Donna Serna This whole ‘parental alienation’ accusation has become a pedophile’s absolute dream come true. I was also accused and found “guilty of severe alienation” by two whores of the court, paid for by… guess who? He often likes to brag that he “paid $60,000 for those reports!” I firmly believe it’s the only true statement he’s ever made. I like to call and write on behalf of other moms going through this. I pray she is not caught.

9 August at 14:48 · Like · 10

Lena De Beer Trichardt Yes they are where they are supposed to be!

9 August at 15:22 · Like · 1

Rhonda CaseKristi Kernal

9 August at 16:03 · Like

Rita Philomena I will be sharing and sending my request to the AG

9 August at 20:02 · Like

Rita Philomena We are praying that she isn’t found.

9 August at 20:02 · Like · 1

Suzi Martin email sent

9 August at 20:39 · Like

Gracee Moon I hope she is never caught. Family Courts are a joke they say they are for the best of the child, but that is a crock. Good Luck to the mother Catherine and her girls.

9 August at 20:43 · Like · 7

Raven B Echo Omg I cannot understand this system we have! It’s disgusting! I pray they stay hidden and I pray that one day the underground will be more available to those in need. (I wld love to know how to disappear)

9 August at 21:47 · Like · 1

Stop Emotional Child Abuse It is about time that judges start handing down stiff penalties for access and visitation denial. If a father doesn’t pay child support then he can lose his drivers license, business license, and go to jail. But if visitation is denied virtually nothing happens. Emotional support is crucial to the health and well-being of children !! Family Courts are injuring “fit” parents by allowing false allegations of domestic violence strip a father’s right to access his child. There are several well documented “Family Court CAUSED” Post Traumatic Stress Disorder cases logged with the Florida Department of Health. To make matters worse the children are hurting because of the lies. False allegations of domestic violence IS domestic violence. AND Parental Alienation is CHILD ABUSE!!! These lies are formulated by attorneys, recommendations to the clients to file FALSE POLICE REPORTS (Information Only Reports). Parents are unjustly denied access because of the PTSD injury the “Family Court CAUSED”; believing accusations without REAL evidence, not an “Information Only Police Report”. Ironic? YES and ILLEGAL!! (USC Title 18 Section 242) Furthermore it’s DISCRIMINATION by a Family Court Judge who has “Absolute Judicial Discretion” in an EMPTY COURTROOM!!! So lets say you walk into family court to do the right thing, as a petitioner, asking for contact, responsibility, “to pay” child support; then the Judge hits you with her mallet and cripples dad. Then, dad enters limping back into Family Court, the Judge says “you cannot see your child because you’re crippled”. Then the Judge removes herself from the case when dad (petitioner) tells the Florida Bar AND the Judge about the ILLEGAL POLICE REPORT AND PERJURY BY MOM. The requirement and Standard for Preponderance of Evidence to separate a child from a parent IGNORED!!! 08-29595 American Fathers Liberation ArmyChildren’s Rights

10 August at 00:11 · Like · 2

Sherry Jeu email sent. praying

10 August at 03:21 · Like

Genevieve Peace Friedman praying she isn’t found…. though, as a former ‘hider’…. I know its a tough life with children to stay in hiding for a long time…… someone grow some gonads and DO THE RIGHT THING…… this is NOT made up.

10 August at 11:56 · Like · 4

Warren Rusty Wilson Instead. Just go hunt down the pedophile “father” and beat him sense -less and show him the kind of thing that will happen to him if he continues with the HUNT… I am willing to do the deed. Show me where he is !… ,I am S I C K of these pedophiles ! ….SICK to my stomach…..

10 August at 23:30 · Like · 4

TarneaSwanwick I pray that these girls never have to see their ‘father’ again! Good on the mum for taking that leap to protect her children when the justice system wouldn’t

11 August at 07:48 · Like · 7

Emma Pogonoski I applaud this courageous mother. May I never have to fight like she is, and so many others in her position.
Read this Dimitra Pantazis and tell me if you think authorities will do anything to protect that baby girl whose vile parents were on 60 minutes last night. Children are court ordered to live with their abusers more often than they aren’t in the family courts. It’s a disgrace and the whole family court needs investigating and overhauling.

11 August at 12:40 · Like

Anne Cole How come this information has not been made public

11 August at 14:51 · Like · 6

Trace-Anne Mallardi At last ………………..

11 August at 17:22 · Like · 3

Anne-Marie Murray Backwards.Grrrrrrrr

11 August at 17:23 · Like · 1

Deborah Camacho Oh my god!!!!

11 August at 19:01 · Like · 1

Karen Rowe OMG this is awful. Praying the mother and children won’t be found

12 August at 09:02 · Like

MuzLaufer The system ….

12 August at 11:06 · Like

Tracy Kepper I was told their mother asked the family courts for their father to have full custody. Also these are pretty serious allegations against any parent.

12 August at 12:21 · Like · 7

Kylie Phillips How did the father end up with full custody?

12 August at 17:18 · Like · 2

Corinne BaileyRachael Armstrong

12 August at 18:07 · Like · 1

Emma Mcnaughton Wow!!!! Knew there wS more to this story

12 August at 18:53 · Like · 4

Martina Halamkova God protect you and your children through all this.Love m

12 August at 19:39 · Like

Jialin TanSim ChesherRenee Perkins what is going on here?!

12 August at 21:17 · Like

Renee PerkinsWtf? Why would she sign over full custody? These poor girls.

12 August at 21:24 · Like · 1

Jialin Tan I don’t know. I don’t know what is true but for the children’s sake I hope it gets sorted. Abusers are masters of deception. At the same time these are terrible and unsubstantiated allegations. This situation just stinksRenee.

12 August at 21:29 · Like · 3

Renee Perkins Either side of this case is so detrimental to the kids. What sort of a life will they lead when both sides are being so vile about the other. They brought these girls into the world together. So much for what’s in the child’s best interests. I agree Jialin. It stinks.

12 August at 21:33 · Like

Trish Hutton It’s good to read two sides to this story. One must also be mindful of the fact that people who do have a mental illness and become unwell very often are discriminated against. Even when they are well again. She could be telling the truth, she could be telling lies. I reakon a full investigation needs to be held.

12 August at 23:09 · Like · 2

Tracey Keeley You go Catherine! Fierce love & protection for your children is the utmost maternal instinct. Safe travels for you and your girls xx

12 August at 23:49 · Like · 3

Margaret Howden Surely if this was the case they would of been examined by a doctor at some point and you would think that if there was evidence of sexual abuse the doctors would of reported it. I don’t know all the details but sound odd to me.

13 August at 06:30 · Like · 9

Donna Ryan Glad this has finally come to light.

13 August at 08:21 · Like · 3

Sonja HughesAmie Mummy Hughes…..sounds like what’s happened to you….your son comes home with burns on his arms from his fathers house and now both your kids are in his care….despite all the evidence and the witnesses!!!!

13 August at 08:44 · Like

Sonja Hughes The law in Australia is ” even though the mother didn’t abuse her children she failed to protect them from abuse, even if she didn’t know it was happening”…,yes it’s an actual defence!!!! It’s a bs one but it’s one that’s widely used!!!

13 August at 08:46 · Like · 1

Laura Andrew What the …….. How about the parents think about the kids for once and get this sorted for the girls sake couldn’t imagine what they are thinking

13 August at 08:47 · Like

Sonja Hughes Renee Perkins….you don’t have a choice….either you sign them over or they get taken from you in the most horrific way!! This has just happened to MY daughter and her children!!

13 August at 08:49 · Like

Kylie Wilson-Phalmer Because Anne Cole the police, Judges, child welfare and media have been on the fathers side!

13 August at 11:42 · Like · 1

Amy Johnston They won’t intervene, I know this from first hand experience. Due to it being a Family Court matter the Attorney General will send a generic response and state it’s out of their control.

13 August at 12:43 · Like

Jess Whittington Disgusting

13 August at 14:58 · Like

Natalie Woods The whole justice system sucks it’s a joke my ex has custody of my son even though he physically abused him and I can’t so squat

13 August at 15:58 · Like · 2

Amie Mummy Hughes I know how you feel, as I toam currently doing this only I wasn’t successful

13 August at 18:36 · Like

Amie Mummy Hughes I hope you can keep those girls safe

13 August at 18:37 · Like

James DanielsTrent Johnston, look at the allegations. I

13 August at 21:19 · Like · 1

Mary Beth SussJodi Dody Jolie remember we discussed this case

21 hours ago · Like · 1

Jodi Dody Jolie Yes I do Mary Suss, all good

21 hours ago · Like · 1

Mary Beth SussAustralian Missing Persons Register, Australian Missing and Endangered Children

21 hours ago · Like · 1

Jodi Dody Jolie If this is in fact true, then keep running mum. Far from that monster.

21 hours ago · Like

Stevi Ann KinmanDesleyWyburg

20 hours ago · Like

Kylie Joan the people that are suppose to help us can be totally the people we run from ! Why is there one rule for one and then they change the rules to suit themselves. Bring in the investigations on all the police officers involved ! ! There will be mistakes made and this women should keep her kids !

18 hours ago · Like · 2

Charlie Clark So sad… Both sides of the story differ greatly. I hope Isabelle & Bronte are safe where ever they are xoxo

18 hours ago · Like · 1

Bren MG I hope they are never found until the dirty dog has been locked up and the police should be looked into as well as the child safety .To often we hear that Child safety has let down kids and not protect them from harm . I hope he his followers that are being so easly brainwashed from his lies is reading all of this

18 hours ago · Like · 1

Fiona WilliamsonLaura / Tanya – can you tag Storm for this?

18 hours ago · Like · 2

Laura BullimoreStorm Cody!!!

18 hours ago · Like · 1

Storm Cody Could not of said it better liam! People who don’t know the fact really should not comment nor become involved.

17 hours ago · Like · 3

Jude Townson Why has the press allowed us to believe that the father is the victim in this.. I am disgusted.. Shame on u bulletin and the FB page asking us to dob the mum in.. If a mother can’t protect her kids …. Who will? Certainly not the child protection agency who are suppose to be keeping our kids safe.. Hope all three are safe and happy.

17 hours ago · Like

Kimberley Henderson I help her hide and I will fright to catch their girls from harm catch hiding mum we are all backing you

17 hours ago · Like

Miette Ophelie Keep running!! The father sounds like a disgusting pig!!!!!

16 hours ago · Like

Jodi SteffWas the court case and all the investigations done in T’ville?? The way its been handled and what happens is true and this is not an isolated case. Child protection laws need an overhaul and ppl dealing with it need to be re trained because at the end of the day you prove over and over again that you have no idea and dont care and in 15+ yrs to come when these kids start taking their fathers to court and want everyone who dealt with it held acountable for not protecting and ruining their lives and the fact the missed out on their mothers you will all loose you jobs.. i see this as the same as the stolen generation, no one wakes up untill the damage is done. KEEP HIDING MUM, THE GIRLS WILL BE OLD ENOUGH ONE DAY TO TELL THE TRUTH.

16 hours ago · Like

Joel Thomas When found, this woman will be going to gaol and will have no contact with the children. Regardless of the veracity of any of the above.

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Press Statement 13
This will apply to Cassie Watter if she is found .
She should demand the right of trial by Jury !!
                                              A PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION IS NEEDED
Letter To :-
Prof. Sir Nigel Rodley ,
President,
ICJ- International Commission of Jurists ,
Rue Des Bains 33 ,
P.O.Box 91 ,
1211 Geneva 8 ,
Switzerland .
Dear Prof. Sir Nigel Rodley ,
Re:- Australian Judges’Abuses .
1. Disregarding Legal Rights :
Throughout Australia it has become the practice in all courts . from Local Courts to the High of Australia itself , to disregard the most important Right that defines being free and it is immortalized in the Magna Carta of 1215 that says “ Nullius liber homo capitur vel imprisonetur , aut , disseisiatur , aut utlagetur , aut exaletur , aut aliquo modo destruatur . nec super eum ibimus , nec super cum mittemus , nisi per legale judicium parium suorum vel per legem terrae .  “ – translating to “” No free man shall be taken indeed imprisoned , or dispossessed , or outlawed , or exiled , or in any manner destroyed , nor pass over him . nor send over him , except by means of the lawful judgement of his own equals which is the law of the land ,  “ – and has established Trial by Jury as an inalienable Right .  “ granted for ever  “ ,  and confirmed many times over the centuries in Acts of Parliament following that Common Law Writ sealed by King John at Runnymede on the 15th June , 800 years ago .
The Commonwealth of Australia is a Common Law Jurisdiction and that all the Courts of Australia are Common Law Courts where Free Men can exercise their inalienable Right to Trial by Jury .
So essential to the preservation of Truth , Justice , Freedom and Democracy is the Right to Trial by Jury , that any denial of this Right constitutes Treason against the People of Australia because it is an act intent on overthrowing the Sovereignty of the People to be “ the ultimate authority to make and impose laws  “ . No Federal or State Parliament can abolish or diminish this Right protecting Life , Liberty and Property because it is the duty and responsibility of Jurors to judge the facts and law presented to them , so that they can administer Justice to all parties in any action . In any action , unless a Court obtains the clear and unequivocal consent of all parties to be without a Jury , that Court has no jurisdiction to proceed summarily and any such awards , doings and proceedings shall be held to be null and void .
This denial of the Right to the “ Palladium of Liberty “ in Australian Courts , contravenes the Vision and the Mission of the International Commission of Jurists as  set out in your website of  http://www.icj.org/about/ .
2. Denying Legal Procedures :
“ Once jurisdiction is challenged , it must be proven . “  ( Jagens v. Levine , 415 S.Ct.768  ) .
“ Jurisdiction can be challenged at any time , even on final determination .  “ ( Basso v. Utah Power and Light Co , 495 2nd 906 at 910 ) .
“ Where there is an absence of jurisdiction , all administrative and judicial proceedings are a nullity and confer no right , offer no protection . and afford no justification , and may be rejected upon direct  collateral attack .“  ( Thompson v. Tolmie , 2 Pet. 157, 7 L.Ed . 382 ; Griffiths v. Frazier , 8 Cr . 9 , 3L . Ed . 471 ) .
By Australian Judges disregarding the consent of parties to have proceedings conducted summarily , they deprive the court of jurisdiction and compound the wrong by disregarding the Legal Procedure of Challenging the Jurisdiction of the Court in typical “ Star Chamber  “ or  “ Kangaroo Court  “ fashion .
3 . Denying Access to Courts :
To protect themselves from exposure and being held accountable , the Australian Judiciary has taken to denying People the Right of Free Access to Courts , as per the Free Access to Courts Act 1400 , by having Registry staff not processing properly , written papers such as Statements of Claim , Summons and accompanying Affidavits to initiate an action seeking resolutions to situations . The staff in the Registries are told to refer such applications to a Judge who then gives a direction in writing that permission must be given by a Judge before they can be filed . This means that a Judge has assumed the power to arbitrarily prevent someone even going to court—let alone having equality before the law . This is Tyranny in the extreme . This is the deprivation of the most primal quality of being human . It is exclusion and Slavery .
It ought to fall to the Sheriffs “ to ensure that people can exercise their rights in court in safety  “—but the Australian Judiciary have corrupted them by intimidation to physically assault and either remove someone demanding their Rights from the court and either out into the street or into a prison cell “ to teach them a lesson  “ in servility .
Should a dissenter maintain their position of demanding their Rights , Australians Judges charge them with “ Contempt of Court  “ and summarily punish them . This is another example of how the Australian Judiciary regard themselves as superior to the People because , in 1988 , a National Referendum to alter the Australian Constitution to exclude Trial by Jury from Contempt of Court and Courts Martial was resoundingly defeated – and Australian Judges have chosen to disregard the Will of the People to continue to summarily punish ( many times by imprisonment ) anyone who dares to challenge their authority .
4, Practitioners of Slavery :
A Slave has no Right of Consent
A Slave has no Right to Property .
A Slave has no Right to Trial by Jury .
Australian Judges have assumed absolute power over People while adopting a “ Doctrine of Immunity  “ for themselves .
TO CONCLUDE THIS LETTER
Ecclesiastes 3 ; 16  “  Moreover I saw under the sun : In places of judgement , Wickedness was there ; And in the place of righteousness , Iniquity was there .  “
Yours sincerely ,
John Wilson
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LEAK 75

We have a BIG problem with Queensland Police Commissioner Ian Stewart !
The attached news report is an indication of the type of person who has been elected into office and this is only a part of the problem !
This so called “ leader  “ is a law unto himself and is NOT doing his job !
A man in his position who has the attitude of “ it is my way or the highway  “ is someone totally lacking in leadership qualities !
We also call into question his professionalism ( or should we say – lack thereof ) and call on him to step down off his pedestal , admit to the fact that he is exhibiting qualities that do not match those expected of a policeman in his position .
How can someone who professes to be a professional policeman MAKE A JUDGEMENT on a case where he admits to :-
NOT having viewed tapes of a police interview between one of his officers , child safety and the mother ?
NOT viewed the interview between the children and the the police ,child safety ?
REFUSES to accept the analysis by a qualified individual of the interview , said interview not having been watched by himself ?
NOT having read any of the supervisor’s reports of abuse by the father ?
NOT having viewed ANY of the other police and child safety interviews of the girls ?
What an abject display of ignorance by this so called leader Ian Stewart !
The fact that a child , YES A CHILD , Ian Stewart , has a sexually transmitted infection and a bleeding anus is of NO concern to you , says it all doesn’t it ?
We invite the Queensland Police Commissioner to view the evidence we have referred to !
He is welcome to use this platform to respond to our comments as we stand to be corrected on villifying this man !
We also know he will not do so as he thinks he is beyond reproach !
You are a disgrace to your uniform , the public whom you serve and those who serve under you !
We also have a problem with Minister for Child Safety Hon Shannon Fentiman MP and Michael Hogan the Director General of  Communities ( including Child Safety ) who promise to do something and then do nothing to fulfil their promises . Indicative of all that is wrong with the child protection system !
You are both a disgrace !
And now we wait to see what Malcolm Turnbull , Bill Shorten and  AnnastaciaPalaszczuk  do to make amends and look into this matter ?
A PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION is what is needed Mr Prime Minister !
A Townsville Community Cabinet Meeting was held on 29/03/2015 .
Re Bronte and Isabella Watter
In attendance ,
Yvette DÁth MP
Jo-Anne Miller MP
Shannon Fentiman MP
Queensland Police Commissioner Ian Stewart
Director General of Communities ( including child safety ) , Michael Hogan
Regional Director of Child Safety Nicola Jeffers
North Queensland Regional Director for Communities
Main concern for the meeting – is that the Watter twins , if found , will be returned to their father MICHAEL WATTER’S care without any new and thorough investigation being carried out , taking into account and recognising the inadequacy of the previous investigations .
Major concerns
1. Inadequacy of investigations to date by Police and Child Safety
2. Failure of the Independent Lawyer for the children ( Joanne Meade , employed by Legal Aid in Townsville ) to place a prime focus on the needs and interests of the children ,
3, Biased , negative mindset of all the government employees – Police , Child Safety , Independent Lawyer for the children , against the mother and ALL witnesses to disclosures made by the girls .
4. Failure of the government employees to consider that they may have been charmed ( groomed/conned ) by the father . This is a serious omission , given that “grooming “is well-documented in research on child sexual abuse .
Elaboration of these concerns
Inadequacy of investigations by Police and Child Safety
1. Failure to consider all the evidence re Child Sexual Abuse ( CSA ) and , in particular
    a. Reports submitted by contact supervisors
    b. Statements submitted by all other people who heard the girls make disclosures
    c. A notification that one of the girls had reportedly been diagnosed with an STI and a torn anus
2. Disbelief accorded to disclosures made by the two 5 year old girls in interviews with Police and Child Safety . This was particularly marked after
    a. Isabella retracted her disclosures after 3 nights in a foster home , saying “it was a dream “. This is consistent with research on young children’s pattern of reporting disclosures but the government professionals appear to not have this knowledge and appear to have been predisposed to accept the retraction at face value , possibly on account of the bias they held in favour of the father .
    b.Isabella tells the police interviewer that mummy told her to tell the police about what Daddy does to her and her sister . This was misinterpreted by the police as mummy having coached Isabella in what to say whereas , from the contact supervisor’s reports , it is clear that mummy simply encouraged the girls to tell other people what they had told her .There is NO evidence of coaching in the contact supervisor’s reports , it is clear that mummy simply encouraged the girls to tell other people what they had told her . There is NO evidence of coaching in the in the contact supervisor’s reports and , indeed , the complex detail in the disclosures made to the police by the girls could not possibly have been coached at all – let alone by a mother whose total contact with the girls was supervised .
3. Failure of the Child Safety staff present in the interviews with police to act on the balance of probabilities that the children had experienced harm and were at risk of future harm if left in the care of their father . The Child Safety staff appeared to have deferred to the Police who need to assemble evidence beyond all reasonable doubt in order to lay criminal charges . In this way the civil principle of the best interests of the child was subordinated to the interests of police re criminal charges . This indicates failure on the part of Child Safety staff to
    a. Believe what young children say about abuse , against all advice of child sexual abuse literature .
    b. Prioritise concern for the protection of young children , especially in a “ Family Court case “ . In such cases research research has demonstrated how professionals continue to give precedence to a ‘scepticism paradigm ‘rather than to child protection .
    c. Consider the possibility that they , the professionals , may be being groomed by a perpetrator of child abuse – grooming by perpetrators is well documented in research on child sexual abuse .
    d. Value the efforts of a protective mother , rather than misinterpreting her behaviour and deeming it to have caused “emotional abuse “ to the children without double checking their assumptions against the contact supervisors’ reports .This is a key failure in the investigations by police and child safety and contrary to all recommendations emanating from CSA research .
4. Restricting the mother
    a. From making any further reports of possible abuse ,asserting that : they would not be investigated ; charges would be laid against her , and they , the professionals , would recommend to the Family Court that she lose all contact with the girls .
    b. From reading a child protection book with the girls , despite the girls enjoying both the verse and the little black cat . Astonishingly , using this book was perceived by police as tantamount to ‘coaching ‘even though it’s use is recommended by police and Child Safety .
    c. From looking at the girls genitalia , even when , on supervised contact visits , they complained about being sore in that region of their anatomy . If she did she faced arrest .
Failure of the Independent Lawyer for the children ( Joanne Meade , employed by Legal Aid in Townsville ) to place a prime focus on the needs and interests of the children .
1. Failure to forward all supervisor’s reports which contained disclosures of CSA to the Police and Child Safety .
2. Failure to submit all the supervisor’s reports to the Family Court .
3. Attempted—at the father’s request – to influence a psychiatrist to revise his assessment of the mother’s mental health .
Biased , negative mindset of all the government employees, Police , Child Safety , Independent Lawyer for the children – against the mother and all witnesses to disclosures made by the girls .
1. Statements by the police and child safety staff that the mother is mentally ill have been made with no evidential foundation and contrary to the assessments made by 2 psychiatrists and 4 psychologists .
2. Claims by the police and child safety staff that the mother has fabricated allegations of child sexual abuse , seemingly based on a glib assumption that “ this happens in Family Court Cases  “ . Such scepticism on the part of professionals is based on the now discredited theory of parental alienation . This out dated knowledge base is a serious concern since it can lead to failure to protect children from harm .
3. Claims by the Police , Child Safety staff , and the independent lawyer for the children , to take seriously the statements of all persons ( contact supervisors and others ) who heard the girls make disclosures of CSA , despite the complete lack of evidence in the contact supervisor’s reports that this happened .
4. Failure by the police , child Safety , and the independent lawyer for the children , to take seriously the statements of all persons ( contact supervisors and others ) who heard the girls make disclosures , on the grounds that the girls had been coached by their mother . This is despite the complete lack of evidence of ‘behaviour that is of a sustained and repetitive nature during contact with the girls ‘ as claimed in a notification to Child Safety dated 17/07/12 . How this could have been substantiated by child safety without considering the contact supervisors’ reports and interviewing the supervisors is simply incredible .
Failure of the government employees to consider that they may have been charmed ( groomed/conned ) by the father. This is a serious omission on their part , given that ‘grooming ‘is well documented in research on child sexual abuse .
1. The bias of police , child safety staff , and the independent lawyer for children in favour of the father and against the mother ( and against all witnesses to the girls disclosures ) has been palpable throughout this case and , once entrenched , has not been exposed to critically reflective scrutiny . Or , if it has , there has been a built-in inclination to not revise their professional judgements and admit to having been wrong .
2. In this regard there appears to be an implicit assumption that while the girls and their mother are missing this critical scrutiny is not necessary and that , when they are found , it will continue to be not necessary as the mother will be incarcerated and the girls will be returned to their father’s care .
Conclusions and Recommendation
This latter outcome – return of the girls to their father’s care – is our greatest concern . It is our belief that if this happens the girls would be at risk of serious harm in their father’s care and the authorities would be guilty of failing to act to protect young children from harm .
In our view , it is essential that if , or when , the children are located that they be placed in the care of loving family members , or close family friends , rather than strangers such as foster carers !
Due to the fact that the paternal grandmother , Mrs Patricia Watter , lives with a serious mental illness and also suffers with many physical health issues . In our view it would be in the best interests of the children to be placed with the maternal grandparents , Heather and Arthur Doubleday . Heather and Arthur are Blue card holders and they still have the children’s bedroom as it was when they lived at their home in 2011 , with some of their animals also there for for them to play with . It would be very familiar to them and would afford a sense of security .
RESPONSE FROM THE MEETING
From : Arthur Doubleday
To: Freda Briggs
Cc: Recipient 1 , Recipient 2 , Recipient 3 , Recipient 4 , Recipient 5 .
Dear Freda ,
on the afternoon of Sunday 29th March 2015 , we organised a deputation to meet with some ministers in the new Queensland Labor Government :-
Attorney General etc. Hon Yvette DÁth MP
Minister for Police etc. Hon Jo-Anne Miller MP
Minister for Communities etc. Hon Shannon Fentiman MP
We were allotted a time slot of 2.45 pm with the Hon Jo-Anne Miller MP the Minister for Police etc.only .
Our deputation included Heather and I , Emeritus Professor Rosamund Thorpe , specializing in Social Work and Community Welfare , with over 45 years experience , Ms Virginia Hall , Adjunct Senior Lecturer Community Welfare , Mrs Rae Greaves , Dip. Community Welfare , worker for many years at Sera Womens Shelter and volunteer at Domestic Violence Service Centre Townsville and Mrs Rhonda Lane . The last three ladies were registered supervisors of Cassie while with her daughters Isabella and Bronte Watter . These supervisors were approved by the family court , Independent children’s lawyer , Ms Joanne Meade and Mr Michael Watter . These supervisors and ourselves had been told by Bronte and Isabella , allegations of sexual , physical and psychological abuse perpetrated against them by their father , Mr Michael Watter .
The Minister for Police was assisted by the Queensland Police Commissioner , Ian Stewart and another high ranking police officer whose name escapes us .
From the outset , the Commissioner ‘took the floor ‘ , was not interested in any evidence we presented , as he stated it was only ‘hearsay ‘or anything we had to say . He kept repeating that we should let Mrs. Watter , Cassie , know that she should be brave enough to come forward and state her case and allow the children to be further interrogated , as it was the only way that the case could be solved . He also stated that the police had been away from their father too long .
The Commissioner admitted that he had not viewed the the tapes of the Police interview between Det Sgt David Miles , Constable Michelle Faint , Child Safety and the children . He also admitted that he had not viewed that interview of Cassie with David Miles and Child Safety and refused to accept the analysis of that interview by Dr Pamela Schultz , that he had not read any of the supervisors reports of abuse by the father against the girls or viewed any of the other police interviews of the girls with Police and Child Safety .
The Commissioner continued to ‘ shut us down ‘every time we attempted to speak , repeating his line that nothing could be done until Cassie returned with the children . He inferred often that we knew where she was and would be able to contact her , even saying that her brothers and sister would surely be in contact with her on social media .
The Hon Jo-Anne Miller MP sat throughout all of the dialogue , saying very little and often with her mouth agape as she appeared quite horrified . She did say, on at least three occasions , that we should be speaking with the Minister for Child Safety .
Bear in mind that if Cassie and the girls were ‘brave enough ‘to come forward and be interviewed by Police and Child Safety to only be told , yet again , by Det Snr Sgy David Miles that she was a liar and he did not believe her or the children , she is not likely to come forward .
A short meeting was arranged with the Minister for Child Safety Hon Shannon Fentiman MP and even though though we had to sit and wait for sometime , we feel that it was worth the wait . This delegation included , Michael Hogan , Director General of Communities ( including child safety ) , the new North Queensland Regional Director for Communities , Sandra ( ? ) and the Regional Director of Child Safety Nicola Jeffers . We had been informed that the Review being conducted by Child Safety for some 10 months had been finalised but Mr Hogan informed that the Review , our statements , interview tapes , and all other relevant material .This was encouraging . He informed Heather and I that he would be arranging for us to be interviewd , in the near future and that we should present all evidence
I let the ‘dust ‘settle before writing this as we were all breathless by the ignorance shown to us by the Commissioner .
We will keep you up to date .
Yours sincerely
Heather and Arthur Doubleday

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LEAK 74
Mr. Turnbull ,
    we have in our possession a letter which states that both of the girls spoke “ about gunk coming out of their vaginas  “   and the fact that one had blood coming out of her anus !!!!!

    What do you think the “ gunk  “ was Mr. Turnbull ?

     Maybe MICHAEL WATTER would like to answer that question ! The children , after all , were in his custody !

    Would that type of disclosure not horrify you Mr. Turnbull ?
    WHY do you think this evidence/disclosure was NOT presented in court Mr. Turnbull ?
    All of this was reported to the authorities concerned and yet NOTHING WAS DONE TO PROTECT THE CHILDREN !
    If your child had a sexually transmitted infection , wouldn’t you want to know where it came from and WHY the question was not asked in the court ? Particularly when that same infection had previously been passed onto the mother by the father MICHAEL WATTER !
   Answer us that , please ,  Mr. Turnbull !
   Does it not sound strange to you that NONE of this was disclosed in court Mr. Turnbull ?
   Does the fact that the mother was cross examined in court for FOUR days and the father less than ONE day not raise your suspicion that something was amiss Mr. Turnbull  ?
    Why don’t you tell us ,  Mr. Turnbull , how you would react to a court and it’s findings where all of this happened ? Do nothing ? Sit back and accept everything ? Or stand up for your rights and continue to do so until there is a
                                                         PUBLIC   RE INVESTIGATION 
We await your urgent help and advices with great interest !

Help to Free The Watter Twins , Mr. Turnbull  !

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LEAK 73

Note there were five entities this letter to the Premier was copied to !

You can run but you can’t hide Premier !

All the way with this investigation there has been nothing but cover ups !

All the way with this investigation there has been nothing but GROSS NEGLIGENCE !

All the way with this investigation there has been nothing but inaction !

All the way with this investigation there has been nothing but GROSS INEPTITUDE !

All the way with this investigation there has been nothing but threats from the police to the mother !

Illegalities all round by the police !

The collusion between the police and MICHAEL WATTER is plain to see ! Disgusting !

There is a deep rooted corruption here !

The Commissioner of the CCC has done NOTHING !

The Premier has done NOTHING !

The Queensland Police have done NOTHING !

The Federal Police have done NOTHING !

 

The Prime Minister has done NOTHING – YET ?

 

 

How many times do we have to tell you – THE ONE CHILD HAD A SEXUALLY TRANSMITTED INFECTION ! THE OTHER CHILD HAD A BLEEDING ANUS !!

 

The sooner there is a

PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION

the better !

 

 

 

Letter to Premier

 

From: Freda Briggs ( Freda.Briggs@unisa.edu.au )

Sent: Monday 10 November2014

To: Recipient 1 , Recipient 2 , Recipient 3 , Recipient 4 , Recipient 5 .

 

Dear Premier

 

It is some time since I wrote to you about the Watter twins who , for about eight months have been in hiding with their mother . Can I remind you that I lodged very serious complaints against Townsville Police Det Sgt David Miles , Michelle Faint and the child safety officer who ignored the children’s disclosures of sexual abuse by their father , bullied them and their mother and left the  5 year old children alone in a room for an hour .. all of this captured on CCTV . The mother fled with them because police ( illegally ) banned her from making further reports of abuse ( ignoring my reports ) threatened to arrest the mother for examining her daughter’s genitals and ignored a sexually transmitted infection and torn anus , reporting abuse by the father and his influential friends to 12 witnesses who were never interviewed . Lawyers asked me to critique the DVD’s of interviews . The bullying of the mother was so serious ( 46 pages of transcript ) that I had the language analysed and an article was published by Cambridge University Press in the recent edition of Children Australia . It will also appear in a law journal . We are about to analyse and publish the language used with the children  . It is now 18 months since my complaint went to CCC who sent it to another police officer ( who is not an expert in child development ) to investigate themselves . The relationship between police and the father is such that the father received a copy of my complaint ( which was not about him ) , put it on the internet and wrote offensive emails to me . I met the police officer responsible for the inquiry 3 weeks ago and he said that his report was completed at the end of last year . It has disappeared . The Commissioner of CCC said that he would trace it and contact me 3 weeks ago . He didn’t . With Hetty Johnson ( Bravehearts )  I met the advisor to the Attorney General . We would like an inquiry into the handling of this case . You suggested some time ago that I should meet your Minister responsible for children . She refused to see me on the grounds of ‘privacy ‘. I have been told by a reliable source that she proclaims that ‘ the father is innocent ‘ and the mother is mentally ill . I said I wished to discuss my complaint , not the case in question . She refused . In the meantime Det Sgt Miles has appeared on TV as the officer still responsible for child protection in Townsville and he was said to have been working in Brisbane advising on handling family violence , which , given his history , is ludicrous . Given the time that has elapsed, I am left with the conclusion that state authorities are ignoring the serious allegations in the hope that the children will be traced . The Family Court Judge has already said the mother will be jailed and no doubt she will be banned from seeing the children until they are 18 , which has happened in similar cases . You can then all blame the Family Court when the real problem lies within state services .

I hope that you can take some action in this case because right now Queensland’s reputation for protecting children is in jeopardy .

 

Yours sincerely

 

Professor Freda Briggs AO

Emeritus Professor in Child Development

University of South Australia

Magill Campus

SA 5072

 

 

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LEAK 72

Professor Freda Briggs encapsulates in one statement what we feel about Sgt. Miles and the subsequent police actions – asking whether this –

  “ Sgt. Miles is a liar or imcompetent or an incompetent liar “

Why would this type of statement even need to be made unless there is something seriously wrong in the State of Queensland !!

Sgt. Miles denies having been made aware of the child sexual abuse and went on to tell a reporter that the children had not told anyone else about the father sexually abusing them ! Further to this Miles ( after having been read the statements of the people the sex abuse was reported to ) said that the police did not have any of their statements as he would have seen them in the documents sent to him by Cassie’s ( useless )  solicitors !

Even if one was to accept as Gospel what Miles had to say , the question needs to be asked , WHY did he not then follow up on this , dig deeper , and do his job ?

We accept that Freda’s comments on Miles appear to be 100% correct !

Note the response from the Minister’s office . Everyone on the back foot , covering each other’s backsides ! Too scared to talk ! Too scared to tell the truth and yet the health and well being of the little girls is not on anyone’s agenda to fix !

When told that one of the children had a sexually transmitted infection and the other child a damaged anus we see no one jumping up and down expressing shock and horror ! All one gets is cover up after cover up after cover up !

 

All of this should and MUST lead to a

PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION !!

 

See below further correspondence from Freda Briggs in relation to Minister and Premier ‘s departments :-

 

From: Freda Briggs

Sent: 17 August 2014 12:02:46 AM

To: Recipient 1, Recipient 2 , Recipient 3 , Recipient 4, Recipient 5 .

Cc: Recipient 1 , Recipient 2 .

 

I had a call from the office of the Minister responsible for children on Friday

Late last year I received a letter from your Premier asking me to make an appointment to see her . As I will be in Brisbane for a day next moth and for several days in October I asked for an appointment .

The caller asked why I wanted to see the Minister and I said “ Because the Premier suggested it “ .

She said , “Well the Minister won’t be able to discuss the Watter children “

I said “Why not ? “

“Because the matter is being investigated , there are issues of confidentiality and you need to report your concerns to the Crime and Misconduct Commission “.

I said that I was the one who lodged the complaint in the first place and I only wished to discuss my complaint . Furthermore I lodged the complaint to the CMC about 18 months ago and all they did was appoint a policeman to investigate the inappropriate interviewing of 5 year old CSA victims by police . Is a male Police Inspector in Brisbane likely to be an expert in the use of developmentally appropriate language for 5 year olds ? I doubt it .

She then said it was a matter for the Minister of Police

No , I said , it’s a matter for you because child safety was involved . And as a result of this tardiness ( now with accusations of possible corruption ) there is a risk that the children will be found , the judge has already said that the mother will be jailed and the children will be automatically returned to their father who is accused of abuse . And all that the interviewing officer has said so far is is that the mother should have mediation with these cowboy police in Townsville .

I told her that I had also personally reported child sex abuse — the STI and damaged anus to Inspector Craig Weatherley and therefore it is a child protection issue .

I hit a brick wall and finally told her that the Australian and Courier Mail had contacted me and in my view , the child protection sustem in Queensland is a disgrace .

She said “You have made that very clear Professor Briggs “.

I am sick to death of buck – passing bureaucrats .

We are having a Royal Commission and a Select Parliamentary Inquiry into our incompetent child protection services but complaints tend to relate to social workers , not police . Our police do not usually interview children under eight .

 

Freda

 

 

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Leak 71

 

Freda Briggs clearly shows her views on the police and in particular Inspector Craig Weatherley here !

Craig Weatherly demonstrates that one needs a shovel and a wheelbarrow when dealing with his emails !

Your children are sick Craig Weatherly whilst Cassie’s children were getting raped by their father !

Tell someone who cares !

It is OBVIOUS to many of us that there is/was collusion between the police and Michael Watter – NO other explanation is there ?

This PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION needs a close look at you and the cover ups within the police department on this case !

The only closure we want from you Craig Weatherley is that the charges against the mother are withdrawn and the case PUBLICLY RE INVESTIGATED so that many of the questions being asked about the cover ups and corruption in this case may be answered ! The children may then receive the counselling so desperately needed and you can go back to your sick children and the twins may continue knowing that they are safe from further sexual abuse !

WE are not asking for much Inspector Weatherley and if you were an honest man you would be calling for the same would you not ?

 

From: Freda Briggs ( Freda Briggs@unisa.edu.au )

Sent: Wednesday , 6th August 2014 9:30:51 PM

To: ————————–

Cc: —————-   ———————

 

Michael Watter said police were trying to trace the origin of the document so who told him ? Police of course .

 

Dr Freda Briggs AO

Emeritus Professor in Child Development

University of South Australia

Magill Campus

SA 5072

 

—- Original Message —-

From: Weatherley.Craig@police.qld.gov.au

( mail to: Weatherley@police.qld.gov.au )

Sent: Wednesday , 6 August 2014 9:59 AM

To: Freda Briggs

Subject: RE; Facebook slander

Hi Freda,

My apologies for not responding sooner . I can give you my unequivocal assurance your complaint , personal details and the like have not been given to or discussed with Michael Watter from my end . The report was sent to the Ethical Standard Command back in January and I have undertaken more interviews in recent weeks . I have added these interviews to the original report and , provided the ESC / CMC agree with and recommendations , I am hopeful there will be some closure to the police conduct side of this matter sooner rather than later .

I’m aware the facebook profile is a fake one and the regional policing are investigating that aspect of it .

Again , please accept my sincere apologies for the delay in responding to you on this occasion . Work commitments have been unprecedented lately and my children have been sick , hence some time away from the desk .

I will update you as soon as I hear from ESC and the CMC ,

 

Kind regards

Craig

Craig Weatherley

Detective A/Inspector 8249

Governance and Renewal

Office of the Deputy Commissioner ( Strategy , Policy and Performance )

 

From: Freda Briggs

Sent; Sunday 27 July 2014 10;23;05 PM

To; Weatherley.CraigI(Spp)

Cc: Michael Watter

Subject: RE: Facebook Slander

Craig I have just had an angry phonecall from Michael Watter .

Who gave him my phone number ? It obviously wasn’t Cassie Watter.

I did not put this on the internet. I wouldn’t know how .

I avoid facebook .

I don’t know anyone of that name .

I do know that you said that the report would be published last November and it’s now the end of July . Furthermore the subject of the complaint is still appearing in the media as being responsible for child protection .

And given that my complaint to the Crime and Misconduct Commission was about the behaviour of police , not Michael Watter , can you please explain why a copy of my complaint was given to him .

Yours sincerely

Emeritus Professor Freda Briggs AO

 

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LEAK 70

This email from the Late Freda Briggs to the Minister once again amplifies the need for a RE INVESTIGATION into this case !

NO action was taken AGAIN by the Minister !

As Freda quite correctly states – “ what exactly does one have to do to protect these poor children from sexual abuse in Townsville “  ? A fair question under the circumstances !

Freda quite correctly states that the evidence suggests that the police are not – and shouldn’t be allowed to be anywhere young children and yet the authorities proceed along their own merry way regardless , whilst the children in this case continue to be sexually abused !

NOTHING of substance from the Minister ! WHY ?

 

WAKE UP AND HELP FREE THESE CHILDREN MINISTER !!

 

From: Freda Briggs Freda.Briggs@unisa.edu.au

Date: Sunday.May 11, 2014 1.33 PM

To; aspley@parliament.qld.gov.au

Cc: ———————

Attach: Child Safety Interview 3rd March 2013.docx ; ————–call to Detective Sergeant David Myles on 17th Jan.docx

Dear Minister

I forward the email I received from — ——– ———— — — —— —– referred to in my previous email .

I am staggered by the attitudes displayed by these persons whose roles are supposedly to protect children .

Det.Sgt Miles refers to the interviews with the children which are the subject of my complaint to the unresponsive Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission .

This leads me to ask , what exactly does one have to do to protect children from sexual abuse in Townsville ?

It is unfortunate that while schools teach children to “tell and keep on telling “if someone molests them , when they do tell ,their mothers are accused of “training n”them .

I cannot begin to imagine the psychological harm that this causes .

I saw the before and after DVD’s of the children being interviewed and you would not have recognised them as the same children, such was the change in their appearance and demeanour .

I have had contact from another mother from another Townsville mother who is taking civil action against the department for failing to heed her children who are now over eighteen and suffering from PTSD as a result of their abuse .

I do hope that you can take action to stop the bullying and ensure that professionals in this field are adequately trained . The evidence suggests strongly that they are not – and shouldn’t be allowed to be anywhere near young children .

 

Yours sincerely

Professor Freda Briggs AO

Child Development

University of South Australia

Magill Campus

SA 5072

 

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You gave your daughter a sexually transmitted disease MICHAEL WATTER !!! #leak69 #WikiDetectives

LEAK 69
MICHAEL WATTER – you are a pig of the first order !
Not only do you infect your wife with a sexually transmitted disease you piece of scum you do the same to your daughter ! The other daughter bleeds from her anus ! Where exactly does your depravity stop ? Is the dog safe you perverted piece of dirt ?
Is it any wonder the mother ran away from you , foregoing her home , her car , relatives , friends and employment ? What else could she do to stop you from fornicating with her daughters !
The actions of the police in this instance are horrifying ! Gross ineptitude ! Gross incompetence ! Cover ups at the top !
No wonder the desperate mother ran away with her children – any person worth their salt would have done the same thing !
Miles and Faint without any shadow of doubt enabled MICHAEL WATTER to continue to sexually abuse his twin girls thus resulting in one of them catching a sexually transmitted disease – you must be so proud of yourselves Detective Sgt David Miles and Officer Michelle Faint !
To compound this negligence , Miles then gives the father free reign to continue fornicating with his daughters by telling the mother the police would not investigate any further complaints of sexual abuse ! That must have made MICHAEL WATTER ’s day to know that he was free to do as he pleased with his little girls ! An open licence to fornicate with his two young girls to his hearts content !
We have previously reported on Dr. Pamela Schultz ( UniSA’s expert in discourse analysis ) publishing her thoughts on the police interviews in a journal which shows you how bad she thought it really was and yet nothing concrete was done about about it by the police ! To add insult to injury the police in their wisdom employ one Inspector Weatherly to investigate Miles and Faint . From the further evidence and paper work at our disposal it is evident Weatherly was about as useful as a pork chop in a synagogue ! We will provide this paperwork in due course .
The Queensland Police do NOTHING of consequence and leave an incompetent individual in charge of child protection in Townsville – says it all doesn’t it ?
Is it an wonder the mother is now wanted by the police ?
Is it any wonder we are calling for this matter to be publicly looked at ?
A PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION IS URGENTLY NEEDED !!
These cover ups must STOP !
From: Freda Briggs
Sent: Tuesday, 6 May 2014 10;50 PM
Subject: Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission
Dear Premier ,
Thank you for your letter inviting me to meet your colleagues . I expect to be in Brisbane briefly for a day early in September and will see if arrangements can be made then .
Unfortunately , I have to report a very serious concern that I feel obliged to to bring to your attention as other avenues have failed . This concerns the unprofessional behaviour Townsville Police and the ineffectiveness of the Crime and Misconduct Commission which has led a Townsville mother , Cassie Watter , to abandon her home , car , relatives , friends and employment to go into hiding to protect her twin daughters , thereby breaching a Family Court Order . When located , she will most certainly be jailed and banned from contacting her children until they are eighteen – as happened in a Sydney Family Court last week .
In October , 2012 , I was asked by Townsville lawyers to examine the DVDs and transcripts of police interviews of ( a ) Cassie Watter’s twin children , then aged five and ( b ) a police interview of the mother . The transcript of the latter was about 46 pages long . These showed that police failed to investigate allegations of child sexual abuse and operated at the outset from the premise that the mother had trained the children to make false reports . The father had already been given residence of the children by the Family Court . The 5 year old children had sought help from 12 people , including a psychologist none of whom were interviewed . Although the mother only had supervised contact with her children , police accused her of “training “ them to make the reports . Detective Sgt David Miles and Officer Michelle Faint bullied the mother , told her that the father had never abused the children and never would ( an assurance that no responsible professional would ever give ) . They acted as quasi-psychologists and threatened to charge the mother ( who was director of a paediatric health centre ) , with an undisclosed offence if she examined her daughters genitals . Miles said that police would never investigate any further disclosures of abuse , as a result of which the father would know that that he could do whatever he liked and police would not intervene . Detective Miles ordered the mother to respond to future allegations of abuse by telling the children that it was ‘just a dream ‘. He suggested that the allegations related to one of the twins having a dream about having sex with her father when she was only 2-3 years old . I produced international research evidence showing that a child would not be able to recall a single dream that she had at the age of 2-3 when she was five and she would not have dreamt about sex unless it was based on an experience . It was later revealed that the idea of the dream came from police , not the child and , furthermore , both of the twins disclosed sexual abuse .
Dr, Pamela Schultz . UniSA’s expert in discourse analysis analysed the police conversation which is being published ( attached )
Shocked by the bullying , the unprofessional behaviour ,and the very serious consequences of this , I lodged a formal complaint with Queensland Crime and Misconduct Commission ( attached )  . The complaint was accepted but I was somewhat concerned that a Brisbane Police Inspector , Craig Weatherly was appointed to investigate my complaint against fellow police  . I was concerned that the inspector was unlikely to have the expertise to judge the developmentally inappropriate language that was used when interviewing children of this age .
Fourteen months later , Cassie Watter contacted me with the news that one of her children had a sexually transmitted infection which the father had previously passed onto her . She also found that one of the girls had a damaged and bleeding anus . The mother was desperate because only the father is allowed to seek medical help for the children and the mother was banned from reporting child abuse . As I am a mandated reporter , I reported this to Brisbane Inspector Weatherly .
His response to me was that he was trying to arrange mediation for the mother and Detective Miles while admitting that this was unlikely to be successful . More than a year after making the complaint I was astonished to find that Detective Miles is still responsible for child protection and he was the spokesperson responding to media when the mother and children disappeared .
I find it astonishing that well over a year ago , the complaint was accepted by Queensland’s Crime and Misconduct Commission and the failure to take any action has resulted in a mother risking imprisonment to protect her daughters . I also questioned the value of employing a police inspector to investigate a complaint against his own colleagues . I hope that you can take action to change this state of affairs .
Yours sincerely
Professor Freda Briggs AO
Emeritus Professor in Child Development
University of South Australia
Magill Campus
SA 5072

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MICHAEL WATTER , does the name Professor Freda Briggs mean anything to you ? Perhaps she was just another person ( one of thousands we might add ) who believed you sexually abused your twin daughters ?

Remember her Michael Watter — the lady you said had NO qualifications ?

Just to refresh your memory , and remind you why you had to issue a public apology for bad mouthing the Late Professor Freda Briggs  – does any of the following perhaps ring a bell ?

The Late Author Emeritus Professor Freda Briggs AO, Humanitarian and Child Protection Expert, was a researcher and lecturer in sociology, child protection and family studies for the University of South Australia.

In 2000, Freda was a recipient of the Senior Australian Of The Year award.

Her expertise had seen her consulted by the World Health Organisation on programs to protect children from violence. She was also consulted by the New Zealand Police, Department of Education in Australia, Anglicare and UNICEF.

Certificate in Education , University of Sheffield , UK .

Diploma in Education , Royal College of Preceptors , UK .

Bachelor of Education, University of Sheffield , UK .

Post Graduate Diploma in Child Development , Education and Sociology , University of Sheffield , UK .

Master of Arts ( Early Childhood Education ) , University of Sheffield , UK .

Invested as a Fellow of the Royal College of Preceptors ( UK ) in recognition of seminal research and publication to benefit Education .

Awarded Doctor of Letters for seminal research and publication in relation to Child Protection , University of Sheffield , UK .

2003 , Professor Freda Briggs was awarded the Centenary Medal by the Governor General for outstanding contribution to Australian society in child protection and early childhood education .

2005 , was appointed an Officer of The Order of Australia .

Professor Freda Briggs has had published , internationally recognised pieces of academic literature and consulted extensively regarding child protection issues to government and private organisations .

 

If your memory fails you then maybe the following words will bring it all back to you  ?

 

Apology & Retraction

I recently posted allegations that Professor Freda Briggs AO , Emeritus Professor in Child Development at the University of South Australia , had no formal academic qualifications and that her doctorate could be compared with the doctorate awarded to Kanye West .

My statements were false and untrue and should not have been made . My post has been removed and I have undertaken that I will not repeat those allegations .

Professor Briggs has extensive formal academic qualifications and has an international reputation for her work in childhood protection .

I would like to unreservedly retract the statements I made and apologise to Professor Briggs for the distress and damage I caused .

July 2015

Michael Watter

 

Did those words ring a bell Michael Watter ?

This great lady was , more than anyone else we know ,  eminently qualified to call you out for what you are ! NO getting away from that fact !

We met with her regarding your case when she knew she was ill and we made her a promise that we would NOT rest until this matter had been looked at again by the courts  and a PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION implemented  !

Perhaps the below quotation from the Late Professor Freda Brigg’s book will give you an indication of what we are all about Michael Watter !

 

“Laws can embody standards; governments can enforce laws – but the final task is not a task for government. It is a task for each and every one of us. Every time we turn our heads the other way when we see the law flouted – when we tolerate what we know to be wrong – when we close our eyes and ears to the corrupt because we are too busy, or too frightened – when we fail to speak up and speak out – we strike a blow against freedom and decency and justice. – Robert Francis Kennedy

We are NOT closing our eyes Michael Watter !

We are NOT blocking our ears Michael Watter !

Nor are we too busy or too frightened Michael Watter !

We will speak up Michael Watter !

We will speak out Michael Watter !

Try and stop us Michael Watter !

You are the lowest of the low Michael Watter !

 

 

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Another independent observation of this cowardly little man MICHAEL WATTER  and the intimidation and sexual abuse of his two little girls !
In addition , more evidence that this little man is a bully who threatens innocent people .
This letter was sent two years ago in regard to International Missing Children’s day and yet there he was , lieing like a tickey watch and standing with and next to the Morcombe’s at this years Missing Children’s day !
I hope someone shares this page to those poor people just to show them what ( notice I did not say who ) they were standing next to !
Pathetic , cowardly creature that he is ! You disgust us MICHAEL WATTER !!!
24 May 2015
                                                                                                                        Confidential
To Whom It May Concern
I am writing to express my concern with the decision to appoint Michael Watter as a spokesperson for the International Missing Children’s day .
Initially , I was appalled to hear that he was asked to act as a spokesperson , but I realise that the majority of stakeholders have only heard his side of events relating to the disappearance of Cassie Watter and the couple’s children , Bronte and Isabella ( 7 ) , in April last year.
I wish to provide you with further information so that you may make an informed decision as to whether Michael Watter should have been a spokesperson for such an important event .
I have known his spouse , Cassie Watter , for more than ten years and I have been her confidant up until her disappearance in April 2014 . She spoke with me over the phone and sent many emails and reports to me during the traumatic time after separation from her husband . As a result , I have compiled this letter to provide you with the facts of this matter as known to me and for which I have documentary evidence .
Contrary to the untrue claims Mr Watter has made about his former wife , Cassie was an accomplished businesswoman , an active community worker and a loving mother . Cassie received the Prime Minister’s award for service to the community ; was a professional businesswoman who owned a multi-disciplinary paediatric allied health practice ; was recognised with a Rotary Club Paul Harris Fellowship; and kept her and her children’s abuse by her husband private .
The deterioration in the children’s wellbeing has been well documented :
2009:      Cassie Watter started attending Domestic Violence counselling at Relationships Australia in September of 2009 . Michael agreed to attend but only committed to a few sessions .
2011:      Cassie fled the family house with the girls while Mr Watter was playing rugby , in a bid to escape further abuse . She left with only clothing , leaving other possessions behind .
2011:      September : after continuing threats from Mr Watter and his friends , a Domestic Violence Order was sought by police in order to protect Cassie and the children . Mr Watter contested the order , with the assistance of a barrister , but a DVO was still awarded , with both Cassie and Isabella being listed as in need of protection from Mr Watter and his friends .
2011:      Both children displayed an increasing terror of their father and an extreme unwillingness to be left alone with him . They were having nightmares and regressed in toileting .
2011:      Disclosures of sexual and emotional abuse were made to a child psychologist and occupational therapist . Cassie was not present when the disclosures were made . Police did not interview these professionals as they had already reached the conclusion that Cassie was coaching the children .
2011:      Medical history indicated possible sexual abuse with one girl complaining of severe genital pain after abuse by father . The GP was not interviewed .
2011:      November: Despite this evidence of risk to the children , the Family Court of Australia awarded sole custody of the children to Mr Watter without testing any of the evidence . Mr Watter initiated an emergency hearing , claiming that Cassie was causing the girls emotional harm by forcing them to believe he was angry and that he was harming them . Cassie was also ( unfairly ) blamed for emotional harm caused to the girls during the police interview .
The outcome was that Cassie only had strictly supervised access to the children . She consented for adjustments to the orders over following years , such as for independent supervisors to be appointed , the girls to receive counselling ( which occurred over three years later ) , the girls to see their maternal grandparents , that she be notified of doctor’s visits by the girls , that Cassie undego a psychiatric assessment to prove her sanity , the girls not to be moved from Townsville , and that the children stay at the same school etc.
Both children continued to disclose ongoing sexual , physical and emotional abuse by their father to the court-appointed supervisors . They reported being punished by their father for disclosures and reported that he said the supervisors “are not safe “ . They also reported that he said that the teachers at the school, and others to whom they may have turned , were now “Daddy’s friends “.
This situation continued from November 2011 , when the children were only four years old , until April 2014 , when they were seven .
In total , 40 disclosures of sexual , physical and emotional abuse were reported to supervisors and professionals over this three year period . Police , Child Safety and Family Court all attributed the disclosures as continued coaching by Cassie even though not one supervisor report indicated that coaching was occurring . Furthermore , the Police and Child Safety repeatedly declined to interview the supervisors .
2014:      March: Cassie was informed that Bronte and Isabella were being treated for multiple vaginal infections and anal bleeding . Police and Child Safety ignored this fact .
               April:Cassie and the girls disappeared . Mr Watter and his associates began a propaganda and harassment campaign to gain public support and to intimidate Cassie’s supporters ( evidence may be provided upon request ) .
Cassie has been subjected to various psychiatric tests and they have proven she has no mental illness .
After reading the facts supplied above , I trust you will reassess any future decision to use Mr Watter as a representative at events which support the safety of children .
There is growing evidence that children who are subject to Family court cases are not being properly protected from harm by the authorities , such as Police , Family Report Writers , Magistrates and Judges .
I marked this letter as confidential as I personally have been subjected to harassment by Mr Watter . One day Bronte and Isabella will be able to speak for themselves . Until that time , I ask that you re-consider your decision to allow a man who is demonstrably violent , to be endorsed and given a place of honour by your organisation in the future .
If you require any further information , please contact me as above .
Yours sincerely

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We have in our possession a letter from Michael Watter’s grandmother where the good lady ends off her correspondence by saying :-
 “When this should be a “Happy Occasion “  for us it is not , the worst mother in the world deserves deserves better than what Michael has shown to his Mother .
Michael’s grandmother was referring to Cassie and Michael’s wedding in her letter !
Other extracts as follows :-
She loved him so much .
She gave him all .
He never “ wanted “ .
When Patricia was fighting for her life in the P.A. after the shocking car accident , she called for Michael as soon as she could speak . I never thought that Michael would treat his mother like this .
I am truly disgusted with Michael .
I hope when he takes his “vows “before God He has time to remember those that were there – When the numbers were “down “ being the Douglas Family .
I seen Patricia sit and cry for so long and so often , just to have Michael call to see her !
When he lived at Alderley – no He never came – being 12 months .
The old saying goes – It’s a long road without a turn – see how he goes then ! when his turn comes .
Michael told Trish to get a job – He is lucky she kept him at school and put him where he is today .
Just another indication of how selfish this self centred little man is – just saying !
Has the penny dropped yet ? No ? — well stick around blind people !
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                                                                  Michael Watter !

In all our posts from now on your name will have prominence as we wish everyone who comes across our page to remember it !

Should you take it upon your self to share our posts to the “Help Find Isabella and Bronte ” page this will of course not be necessary ! We just wonder why you will not share this page or the petition in the interest of your children coming back out of hiding ? Just being coy are you ?

You have probably noted that we have left #Leak67 and#PressStatement9 on our page for a couple of days ? Of course you have , how stupid of us ! You are our most ardent follower !
The reason we have done this is that we want what we have written to sink in , as to the type of person you are , 
                                                                                                                       AND
for the police and public authorities involved in this case , to see and understand the gross negligence that is apparent with ALL that has gone on with the investigation into the sexual abuse of your twin girls !
                                                                                                      We are NOT going away !

                                                   PUBLICLY RE INVESTIGATE !!!!

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Calling all paedophiles ! Calling all paedophiles ! Calling all paedophile enablers ! Oh , sorry little man , we seem to have attracted you and your mates again and for some reason that queue of blind people !

The information just keeps coming in !
The sooner the authorities see their way right to kick starting this PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION the better !

We actually do not have anything better to do than to expose paedophiles like yourself and your mates so please expect us to keep at this !

The team we have working on you finds the exercise gratifying and we are grateful for their efforts as your exposure has brought in a few other paedophiles for us to look at and expose !
These paedophiles are also starting to feel the heat but then we have only just started on them !
We still find it absolutely amazing that the gross negligence that is apparent in your case was not dealt with at the time !
                                                 A PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION IS NEEDED NOW
The fact that Child Safety gathered NO evidence from the witnesses that the allegations of sexual abuse were made to is a jaw dropper !
The fact that ELEVEN further notifications of sexual abuse were made against Michael Watter by the children whilst he had full custody just doesn’t sit right in the brain ! So very sad that these disclosures came despite his continual threatening and punishing as a result of previous disclosures . VERY BRAVE little children !
The fact that the little man was able to access Legal Aid whilst earning a salary of $80 000 . 00 plus benefits . Is this not fraud ?
The fact that the mother was unable to access Legal Aid whilst being forced into insolvency trying to protect her children !
The fact that Dallas Grant a previous employee of the Child Safety Department was commenting on Michael Watter’s “ Help Find Isabella and Bronte Watter’s page “ shows no bias does it ? This idiot passes judgement on the mother when he has NO qualifications that would allow him to assess anyone’s mental state !
The fact that Cassie had visited and been assessed by 2 Psychiatrists and 4 Psychologists with all of them clearing her of any mental disorder !
The fact that a Sitting State Member ( who wished to remain anonymous ) stated that Michael Watter’s   UNCLE —  Mark McArdle MP Member for Caloundra (LNP) , would not want to be known to be publicly involved in any way with the case as it would tarnish his reputation ! What reputation would that be Mr. McArdle  MP Member for Caloundra (LNP) ? Being a loving concerned Grand Uncle who was worried about his Grand Nieces being sexually abused ? Or perhaps just that of a normal politician only concerned about himself and his salary and the enablement of a paedophile nephew to continue with his bullying , cowardly , antagonistic and sexual abusing ways ?? Surely you should have been shouting from the roof tops at the gross negligence that is evident here Mr. McArdle MP Member for Caloundra (LNP) ?
The fact that one would have to ask if this man’s position in any way enabled Michael Watter on a salary of $80000 plus a year to utilise the taxpayer to fund his lies and deceit ? Follow our LEAKS is all we will say !
The fact that the little man posted a copy of the court ruling on his page in spite of Section 121 of the Family Law Act and has never been charged !! One reason why we haven’t been shy in exposing and reporting on the system for what it is ! It is called SELECTIVE TARGETING Mr.  Stewart !
FINALLY , the fact that the Queensland Police Commissioner Ian Stewart ‘ s Twitter account has been used to comment and communicate with Michael Watter on this is nothing short of a disgrace – to the extent that Senator David Leyonhjelm picked up on it , criticised the Commissioner and suggested the Commissioner should resign !

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Indicators of sexual abuse and child rape ! The father would pass this exam with distinctions ! #Leak67 #WikiDetectives

 

 

 

LEAK 67

We have been reading correspondence relating to your sexual habits and it needs to be said that you are one very disgusting , perverted , little man , with NO saving graces !
There is a lot to be said about a person that scares , intimidates and lies to his little girls !
There is even more to be said about a man that rapes his own wife and then goes on to rape his own children !

There are indicators of child sexual assault that have been published by Bravehearts —

Fear of being hurt during nappy change or dressing !
Loss of concentration !
Fear of being alone with a particular person !
Sexual themes in artwork , stories , play etc.
Showing a knowledge of sexual behaviour beyond their years !
Bedwetting or soiling after being toilet trained !
Vaginal and/or anal soreness , discharge or bleeding !
Inappropriate displays of affection or sexualised play !
Acting in behaviours ; for example withdrawal from friends , depression !
Acting out behaviours ; for example , aggression , destructive behaviours , truanting behaviour !
Vague symptoms of illness such as headache or tummy ache !

Hetty Johnson from Bravehearts goes on to say ( amongst other things ) that the offender in the majority of cases is known to the child !

In addition to this , Common Indicators in Offenders are as follows —

Paying particular interest to a child ! ( in your case no as you were abusing BOTH of them ! )
Isolating a child from other children !
Engaging in inapropriate/unwanted close physical contact with a child !
More interested in children than adults !
Suspicious behaviour in relation to children ( watching , following , photos , gifts ) .
Often has a special “ child friend “ !
Encourages secrets in children !
Links sexuality and aggression in language or behaviour !
Makes reference to or makes fun of children’s bodies !
Describes children with sexual words !
Seems unclear about what is appropriate with children and what5 is not !
Has an interest in sexual fantasies involving children !
Looks at ot downloads child pornography !
Asks adult partners to actor dress like a child or teenager during sexual activity !

ALL the indications above have been IGNORED by Child Safety and the police !!

Now one of the reasons we are publishing this information provided by Bravehearts is to enable those of you who happen to be blind and have children or grandchildren to be AWARE so that these children may be protected !
The other and main reason is to show ALL of you exactly what this man is like ! Think back as far as you can and tell us if any of these attributes apply to this disgusting little man and if you have further noticed any of the other indications ?
Bearing in mind this pervert is a wonderful groomer and the fact that he has had a great deal of time to change the way he acts in front of children or their parents to cover his trail !
We finally ask that you share these posts far and wide as having nothing to hide why wouldn’t you ? What say you Michael Watter ?

Below is an email sent to Inspector Craig Weatherley which was copied to four other people so our dear friend the inspector cannot deny ever having received it ! This email was sent the day before Cassie took her children and went into hiding to protect them from further sexual abuse ! How desperate she must have been !
Can you imagine if the police had responded to this cry for help amongst the MANY other desperate cries for help where the children would be today !
There has instead been a calculated deception and cover up by the authorities concerned to protect themselves , their gross negligence and their jobs ! The children remain in hiding because of these facts ! Someone needs to stand up and be counted !!

 

From: Cassie CHADC <cassiechadc@hotmail.com
Sent: Thursday, April 3, 2014 10:13 AM
To weatherly.craig@police.qld.gov.au
Cc _____ ________ __________ __________ _________
Subject: Watter
This is a photo of Isabella BEFORE before she started bleeding from her rectum and contracting another vaginal infection .
Painfully thin , eyes sunken in her head , and apparently absolutely no need for concern in regards to how well she is being ‘ cared ‘ for ‘
Can you imagine what state she is in now ?
They say a picture says a thousand words . This is the reality of her life right now .

Cassie

 

RE INVESTIGATE !! RE INVESTIGATE !! RE INVESTIGATE !!

 

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LEAK 66

READ this LEAK in conjunction with LEAK 65

No wonder the mother went into hiding with her children ! Any protective mother would have done the same .

No action by Queensland Police , no action by Child Protection Investigation Unit , no investigation by Children’s Services and no action by Queensland Parliamentary Crime and Corruption Committee — the system has let these children down and no one is being held accountable yet an arrest warrant has been issued for the mother to cover up their lack of professionalism , ineptitude and paedophile enabling !

Read this letter ( those of you that are not blind ) and decide for yourself if what we are saying is correct !

 

RE INVESTIGATE , RE INVESTIGATE , RE INVESTIGATE .

 

LEAK 66

Queensland Parliamentary Crime and Corruption Committee

Parliament House

George Street Brisbane

Qld   4000.

 

26th November 2014

 

Dear Committee Members,

 

We are the grandparents of Isabella & Bronte Watter who, with our daughter Ms Catherine (Cassie) Watter, went into hiding on 4th April 2014 and are still missing.

 

We believe that, due to evidence which has emerged since 1st April 2014 and the failure of the Queensland Police notably the Child Protection Investigation Unit and Childrens Services in Townsville to adequately protect these children, prompted Ms Watter to break the law (which we do not condone) in taking her children into hiding.

 

We contacted the C.M.C. (now C.C.C.) on 24th April 2014 and the forwarding letter with their reply, are attached.

 

Although we, as grandparents, have attempted to report abuse of our grandchildren to C.P.I.U. and Child Safety, on many occasions, they refused to speak with us or take statements from us.  Attached is a list of dates of our attempts to report abuse.

 

We finally met with Child Safety on 17th January 2013 and spoke with and Intake Officer who introduced herself as Ms Gaynor. This Officer was asked on three occasions for her full name and each time she said that it was Ms Gaynor. We discovered, weeks later, that her correct name was actually Ms Gaynor Williams.

 

Ms Williams refused to accept the sexual abuse allegations which both of the children had reported to us. She instructed us to contact Police as Child Safety does not handle sexual abuse to children. Attached is a transcript of that interview with Ms Williams.

 

In desperation, we phoned Snr Sgt David Miles on 20th January 2013. A transcript of this conversation is attached and self-explanatory.

 

As of today’s date, no Police Officer has ever taken official statements from us or any of the many other witnesses to whom the children have disclosed abuse, by their father, to them. We consider this to be inacceptable and an injustice to the children as they are instructed in schools, all over Australia, to tell and keep telling if and when they are being abused.

 

It has now been revealed that the Police and Child Safety interview of Ms Watter was outrageous as they refused to take statements of abuse to the children from her but abused their authority by telling her that no abuse to her children had occurred and never would.  Attached is analysis of the interview by Dr Pamela  D Schulz, critical analysis of the discourse of disbelief in the child sexual abuse. A disturbing report.

 

On Saturday 1st September 2012, Ms Watter with a Court approved supervisor, took the children to Magnetic Island for the day, during which time, the children made several allegations of abuse by the father. On return from the Island, the supervisor insisted that Ms Watter take the children to the Police as she was of the opinion that the children should not go back to the father because of his abuse to them. They arrived at C.P.I.U. headquarters latish afternoon. We were parked outside the Station and at approximately 8.00pm we requested that we be allowed to see our granddaughters. The Officer on duty phoned the C.P.I.U, upstairs and they refused us permission to see the children or take them any food or drinks. It has now been revealed that the C.P.I.U. left the children in an interview room alone for just on an hour with the cameras on and despite the children’s repeated requests for books to read, to go to the toilet and wanting to know where anyone was, the requests were ignored. This action by C.P.I.U. Officers is child abuse in itself.

 

The failures in this case are so immense that Queenslander of the Year, Ms Hetty Johnston of ‘Bravehearts  and Emeritus Professor Freda Briggs AO, have approached the Queensland Premier, the Attorney General and the Minister for Childrens Services, Ms Tracey Davis, seeking an Independent Enquiry into the failure of Queensland Departments to protect these children. The Government, to date, has refused all requests for and Independent Enquiry.

 

Also attached is correspondence to our local MP for Thuringowa, Hon Sam Cox. Mr Cox has, as yet, not replied.

 

We understood that it was a crime to not report child abuse.

 

No doubt, all the interview discs which were conducted by Child Safety and Police of the children are available to your committee for viewing.

 

Please investigate this matter by examining all the available evidence not the Police and Child Safety reports.

 

The father, Mr Michael Watter, appears to have breached Section 121 of the Federal Family Court Act by revealing on Television, Magazines, Facebook and Newspapers photos and names of ourselves and the children. On the other hand, the mother and ourselves are respecting Section 121 of the Act and can never tell the true story. His Honour Justice Peter Tree of the Federal Family Court, made it very clear to Mr Watter and ourselves that section 121 should not be breached and would be enforced.

 

We trust that this matter will be thoroughly investigated, so that the children’s repeated cries for help will be heard.

 

Yours faithfully

Heather & Arthur Doubleday

 

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Child Safety Interview 13th March 2013

OK Folks please come through.

CS Gaynor:  speaking to Neville Abbey  “My information is that as a support person you are

not to make comment OK?

NEVILLE:          No I understand that

ARTHUR:         Support person basically

CC Gaynor:     As a support person you remember that the information remains confidential.

NEVILLE:          Yes

CS Gaynor:      I am also aware that you have been here before.

ARTHUR:         Once

CS Gaynor:      So its OK if I talk  in front of this gentleman.      ARTHUR:         Of course

CS Gaynor:      You have been here before and you have given us information.  My role is to take current  Information OK?  Because if you have provided us with information before we can’t go over old information so I want new information.

ARTHUR:        That’s the reason why we are here today

CS Gaynor:      Beautiful.  So it’s about your grandchildren?

ARTHUR:         Yes

CPIU Gaynor:  Two little girls?

ARTHUR:         Yes

CS Gaynor:      OK I understand is it Isabella?ARTHUR:         Isabella and Bronte Watter.

CS Gaynor:      Is it double T?

ARTHUR:         Yes double T

CS Gaynor:      Alright, now what is your current information?  So it should be new information

That we haven’t received before.

ARTHUR:         We have never been interviewed before by Child Safety.

CS Gaynor:      I’m not interviewing you, you’re bringing me information.

ARTHUR:         Well we have attempted on many occasions to give you information and we

have been unsuccessful.

CS Gaynor:      OK  You understand that to provide us with information all you need to do is call us on intake line and you can provide us information at any time.

ARTHUR:         Did you see the information I brought in the other day about the way we have

tried to contact you and the CPIU?

CS Gaynor:      Ah! No!  That’s OK.  I haven’t all the information because somebody else would’ve already taken that wouldn’t they?

ARTHUR:         It’s very relevant.

CS Gaynor:      So you’ve already documented what you are saying to me now?

ARTHUR:         They weren’t documented I just gave them the information documents

CS Gaynor:      I can give you a phone number.  Did you get the phone number for our intake

Line?

ARTHUR:         No I didn’t.

CS Gaynor:      I’ll give you that number and give you a card if you want or write 1300706147. Right?

ARTHUR:         OK.

CS Gaynor:      That’s Child Safety intake and if it busy at that particular time it will overflow to

another regional intake, but there will always be an intake.  OK? So it will be an

intake service.

ARTHUR:         No problem.

CS Gaynor:      So what is your current information for intake today?

ARTHUR:         Well it goes back to 8th October 2011.

CS Gaynor:      Have you given that information already?

ARTHUR:         No.

CS Gaynor:      So what did you give them when you came in the other day when you said you

came in?

ARTHUR:         Well I gave them information about nothing relevant to what’s happening here.

The file’s there why don’t you go and grab it.  I asked for a copy actually.

CS Gaynor:      I need to know, we can’t provide any information that we are given OK?  Once

we receive information it’s confidential.

ARTHUR:         Yes.

CS Gaynor:      It’s under government procedure and legislation its confidential OK?  So we cannot give that information back out to anybody.

ARTHUR:         Not even ourselves?

CS Gaynor:      Not even yourself.  If you ring up again and say I just rang up the other day I would not tell you what was said or what you provided us with.  Confidential is adhered to.  You have to go through the right intake again and that’s policy.

I can’t break policy.  So if you have got current information you haven’t pro-

vided us after the intake then we take it now.

ARTHUR:         That’s been our intent to date to talk to Child Safety.

CS Gaynor:      But that’s not current information of what you’ve got.

ARTHUR:         But we are going back to 2009.

CS Gaynor:      No, I am talking about current information that you serve us OK

ARTHUR:         Yes

CS Gaynor:      What information you claim in association with the children you are talking about.

ARTHUR:         OK.

CS Gaynor:      Even though you have come in here and you have given information last week?

ARTHUR:         Nothing about the children.

CS Gaynor:      OK.  That’s what I’m after. I’m after what your concerns are about the children.

ARTHUR:         OK we go back to

CS Gaynor:      Your information about trying to contact us has nothing to do with what’s going on with the children.

ARTHUR:         Alright.

CS Gaynor:      I need to know what the concerns are for the children.

ARTHUR:         OK, it’s back to date is 8th October 2011.

CS Gaynor:      You have not provided that to us?

ARTHUR:         No.  No we’ve provided any information to you whatever simply because we haven’t been able to get in contact with you.  We have attempted on many occasions.  We were at home on that day and people called Sheree and Steven Heilbronn turned up at our home, roughly 3 o’clock in the afternoon.

CS Gaynor:      Mm.

ARTHUR:         And that was after there had been a separation and the mother and children were living at our home.

CS Gaynor:      What mother and children?

ARTHUR:         Bronte and Isabella’s mother.

CS Gaynor:      And she was living at your home?

ARTHUR:         Yes

CS Gaynor:      OK

ARTHUR:         And the father had picked the children up and said that he was taking them to the beach.

CS:                   Have you provided this in any court documents or anything?

ARTHUR:         No.

CS Gaynor:      Why not?

ARTHUR:         Well, we can’t talk to anybody.

CS Gaynor:      But we are not the family law court.

ARTHUR:         No.

CS Gaynor: We’re Child Safety and you can ring us up any time and we are open to any organization in the community to ring us.

ARTHUR:         In my attempts to talk to Child Safety madam and we’ve tried on many occasions.

CS Gaynor:      So you’ve had contact with the Regional Director?

ARTHUR:         Mr. Lupe?

CS Gaynor:      Yes

ARTHUR:         Yes, but couldn’t get an interview.  He just said he would let me know what was happening and we’ve got information that’s very relevant to this case.

CS Gaynor:      We do many walk in interviews like today.  We do interviews.

ARTHUR:         Oh yes.  We had to make an appointment to be here today.

CS Gaynor:      Why did you do that?

ARTHUR:         Because I was told to.

CS Gaynor:      Because you came in last week and you said you would be back again today.

ARTHUR:         No.  I said I need an appointment to talk to someone about the children.  She said OK.

CS Gaynor:      Well that’s fine saying that, but we are available anytime.

ARTHUR:         OK

CS Gaynor:      You use phone calls to the intake service at any time but it’s not up to the original intake that you are here.

ARTHUR:         I’ve got to start at the beginning, because you people have no information about our involvement in this case at all.

CS Gaynor:      Alright.

ARTHUR:         None whatever.CS Gaynor:      So, have you been to the police?

ARTHUR:         Several occasions and they won’t talk to us either.

CS Gaynor:      What do you mean by that?  Did they take your information?

ARTHUR:         We went to (um I’ve got it here somewhere).  No they didn’t take the information.

ARTHUR:         Yes

CS Gaynor:      What did you do when you came in last week?

ARTHUR:         I gave them information in relation to a disclosure by our daughter.  That’s all.  Nothing else.  Nothing else was discussed.  The children weren’t even named.

CS Gaynor:      Good

ARTHUR:         Now we’ve been to the Police on 20th January 2012, 8th March 2012, 15th March 2012, 4th July 2012 and 1st October 2012.  Never been able to, oh no Child Safety, sorry.  Those are the dates we attempted to contact you people.

The police 4th October 2012 CPIU in the city.  Now we gave them some information.  The fellow at the front desk said “You sit down there these people will want to talk to you.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

ARTHUR:         The fellow came back and said they will be in touch.  They never have.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

ARTHUR:         They never have. 13th October, no it was 15th October 2012, city CPIU again, same thing, will be in touch.  They didn’t.  19th October 2012 Kirwan Police Station.  We will pass this onto the unit and they will be in touch.  And I appreciate that because I don’t know if there is a unit out at Kirwan and then 7th November 2012 Kirwan Police Station the same thing, never got an interview.  Then January 13th 2013 I rang up Senior Sergeant David Miles who is the Chief of the CPIU and he refused to take the interview.

CS Gaynor:      Does anybody

ARTHUR:         We’ve given them a couple of written statements, that’s all.

CS Gaynor:      Has anybody else in the family provided information?

ARTHUR:         My daughter I would think.

CS Gaynor:      Was it the same information?

ARTHUR:         No.

CS Gaynor:      Why?

ARTHUR:         Well, I don’t know.

CS Gaynor:      What I’m trying to say “Is your information second hand information of first hand information?”

ARTHUR:         It involves us.  It’s first hand information.

CS Gaynor:      You were there?

ARTHUR:         Yes, it was in our home.

CS Gaynor:      OK.  So I’m happy to take what’s first hand information.

ARTHUR:         OK.

CS Gaynor:      I don’t need anything that’s not relevant, only first hand information.

ARTHUR:         I appreciate that.

CS Gaynor:      Because you don’t know if the mother has contacted Child Safety.

ARTHUR:         Many occasions I’d say.  It’s not discussed.

CS Gaynor:      Well then I take your view.  So I’m happy to take it.  So what’s your first view?

ARTHUR:         8th October 2011 Heilbronns’ turned up at our home on Saturday afternoon about 3 o’clock.  Prior to that the father had picked up the children and said that he was taking them to the beach.  When the children came home we were all there and they said that they didn’t go to the beach, they went to the Heilbronns’.  Daddy and Sheree and Mr. Heilbronns were asking questions about where they’re going to live and that worried us and Cassie.  Cassie sent the father and Heilbronn a text “Please don’t involve the children in what’s happening with the breakdown of the marriage.  Mr. & Mrs. Heilbronn turned up at our house as I say.   We invited them inside.  They became very aggressive.  There was a very animated conversation and they made it very clear to us that if we didn’t convince Cassie and the girls to return to the family home with Michael immediately, they’d be in touch with the authorities and have the children taken from the mother.

CS Gaynor:      Let’s talk about the children.

ARTHUR:         No, let’s get the facts.  Would you please write that down?

CS Gaynor:      What my role is and that we are interested in is the risk to the children and harm

to the children.  That’s a conversation you’ve had with another group of people.

But I need to know what the risk is to the children.

ARTHUR:         Well, why don’t you listen to what I’ve got to say?

CS Gaynor:      Now just hold on.

CS Gaynor:      You’re talking about a family law court arrangement OK.

ARTHUR:         We’re talking

CS Gaynor:      We’re talking about a set of people.

HEATHER:       It wasn’t

CS Gaynor:      OK we’re talking about a conversation for family law court.  It was a family…?

ARTHUR:         No

HEATHER:       No.  These people just came into our home and threatened that if our daughter

didn’t go back to her husband with her children they would make sure that she lost the children.

ARTHUR:         They would go to the

HEATHER:       The authorities and make sure she lost the children.

CS Gaynor:      OK.  Did you tell the appropriate authorities this?  Because once again Child

Safety wouldn’t be involved.

ARTHUR:         They were.

CS Gaynor:      Once again there were no children there while it was being discussed with adults

and if you felt threatened you should contact the police.  Did you contact the

Police?

ARTHUR:         We didn’t.

CS Gaynor:      Alright, go on.

ARTHUR:         Now

CS Gaynor:      Don’t, don’t get frustrated.  Bear with me.  I’ve got to perform my role.

ARTHUR:         We’re here.

CS Gaynor:      My role is, you understand?

ARTHUR:         I do.

CS Gaynor:      I can’t do a police role.

ARTHUR:         I don’t want you to.  All we are interested in is these little girls.

CS Gaynor:      I can’t deal with Family Law Court, in that it is completely different to what Child

Safety, so I’ve got to do my job as the Child Safety Officer.

ARTHUR:         OK.  Now these little girls were asleep in the bedroom and the conversation

became very animated and we asked them to go outside, and they refused on

three occasions and the little children woke up screaming.

HEATHER:       The mother tried to pacify the children and asked them to leave and they

wouldn’t.  They just kept yelling.

ARTHUR:         And then they, while they were there they made a statement that Cassie had

been abused by her elder brother on a daily basis for eight years which is about

2, 900 odd times and that if the girls didn’t go back to Cassie, Michael would have them removed from her.

HEATHER:       To Michael

ARTHUR:         To Michael, they would and they also mentioned about the family violence in the

home against the mother and the children and they said “That’s normal in all

family homes and

HEATHER:       And not to take any notice of it.

ARTHUR:         When I asked about the support for the children from the father they said “They

should never have left home even though they were being abused.  They were

petrified.  So then we went to, that was on the Saturday afternoon.  We went to

The Family Violence Centre on Monday morning.  I took our daughter out and we

took a DVO to cover against the father.

CS Gaynor:      Yep

ARTHUR:         To cover ourselves and the girls against the Heilbronns’ and Michael, Michael

Watter the father.

CS Gaynor:      Um so this is to you the father

ARTHUR:         Yes my wife

CS Gaynor:      The children?

ARTHUR:         Yes, because they were living at our place

CS Gaynor:      Yep

ARTHUR:         When it got to court, the Heilbronns’ disputed and got their name taken off it and

the DVO was on Michael and it involved Isabella, the mother and ourselves.

CS Gaynor:      I’m confused.

ARTHUR:         Well the DVO when it went to court

CS Gaynor:      The actual DVO, so the court’s changed it.

ARTHUR:         The application

CS Gaynor:      Who approved the application?

ARTHUR:         They changed it and took the Heilbronns’ off it.  Left Michael on it, ourselves and

Isabella because she’d been hurt by her father squeezing her.

CS Gaynor:      So who was left on it?  Isabella?

ARTHUR:         Isabella, ourselves

CS Gaynor:      Daughter Cassie?

ARTHUR:         Yep.  Now the next one.  This is the next day, that was on the 8th October 2011.

HEATHER:       14/10/2011 was the day I remember like it was

CS Gaynor:      My job to be child protection, to work on the situation with somebody else needs to be relevant

CS Gaynor:      OK MY information needs to be about the children.

ARTHUR:         Yes, sure. Sure. Then on that afternoon they accused of us setting Michael up.

Have you got it the details?

HEATHER:       That was 30th September 2011

ARTHUR:         30TH September 2011.

CS Gaynor:      Can we go backwards?

ARTHUR:         Yes

HEATHER:       The girls had been saying that things about their father sexually abusing them.

ARTHUR:         So we decided what we best to ask him before, you know.  Let the girls confront

him.  Go on Heather.

HEATHER:       He arrived and my daughter just said “The girls have been saying things and we

want to know, if it’s true with that Bronte and Isabella took themselves outside

and Bronte called out “Now don’t you start getting angry Daddy.”

ARTHUR:         And they did confirm that he had been interfering with them both by the way.

CS Gaynor:      They said that

ARTHUR:         Yes.

CS Gaynor:      What did they say?

ARTHUR:         They said yes in front of their mother, in front of their father and ourselves.

CS Gaynor:      So you still didn’t make a statement did you?

ARTHUR:         They had been asked plenty of times

CS Gaynor:      Did you take this information to the police

ARTHUR:         No.

CS Gaynor:      Why Not?

ARTHUR:         That’s quite obvious.  Well

CS Gaynor:      I can’t override police, that’s a criminal action.

HEATHER:       What part can you be involved in no matter what you are supposed to do is hard.  Yes, that was stupid.  Looking behind we should’ve done this we should’ve done that, we should’ve done something else.  We just don’t know.

CS Gaynor:      Yes Absolutely, Absolutely.  Now have you been involved in any court decisions?

ARTHUR:         Never.

CS Gaynor:      So the children made a statement and mind you the children didn’t make this

statement.  All they said was “yes”.  It was the parent that made the statement.

ARTHUR:         No.  They were asked the question?  “Has Daddy been doing naughty things to you?”

CS Gaynor:      But they didn’t make the statement.

ARTHUR:         No

CS Gaynor:      Because you have already told us, so once again it is a criminal action.  Police need to be involved at the time of that.  Any time that somebody has been sexually harmed or sexual predicated on, it is a criminal offence, if it has been identified by police as criminal offence.  Alright go on.  I just got to make you understand. I’ve got to because I can’t do the criminal actions as well.

ARTHUR:         That’s right.  I don’t expect you to Maam.

CS Gaynor:      Alright?

ARTHUR:         That’s for sure.

CS Gaynor:      I can’t take over the role of police

ARTHUR:         Any how the fact of the matter is that they were asked if Daddy was doing it  and they said “yes” and they ran out to play and as they were leaving Bronte said “Daddy don’t get angry again.

HEATHER:       He is always angry.  That’s all they would call him.  They would call him angry, mean, nasty

ARTHUR:         So then Michael.  I said to Michael “This is pretty serious.”  Michael said “Oh I will ring the police.”  Good.  So he got out his mobile phone he pressed the button and he went straight to some police, he never went through a switchboard.

CS: Gaynor      Yep.

ARTHUR:         And um I don’t know what was said on the phone, of course.  And then we took the girls down the back down the back paddock under the mango trees, we have five acres out there.  We didn’t want them involved in this.

CS Gaynor:      What ward do you live.

ARTHUR:         Rasmussen, 1155 Riverway Drive, two doors up from the Community Centre.

CS: Gaynor:     Yes      Yes      Yes

ARTHUR:         And um, then Michael came down and got them.  He didn’t take them did he?

He didn’t take them with him he decided to leave them there.  I said to Michael.

You know, he has always been made welcome to our place; we have never had a dispute with him.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

ARTHUR:         I said to him “These are serious allegations Michael, it might be better if you leave the kids until you sort this out.” He said “yes OK” and he did, so they stayed there on that occasion and then

HEATHER:       Every time he comes to the place for an access visit Bronte used to, when she knew that Daddy was coming that afternoon, just sit and stare and you couldn’t sort of have contact with her.

CS Gaynor:      How long have the children been living with you?

ARTHUR:         They are happy with us now.  The court gave the children to the father.  The father accused the mother of coaching and also issued a statement saying that the mother had sent the father a text on the Saturday afternoon we are talking about, “Come on over honey, the girls can’t wait to see you.”  Now, that never happened.  We’ve got a transcript from Telstra of all the texts sent from our daughter’s phone on that day and that was not in it, so it didn’t happen but he got custody on part of that.

HEATHER:       So these girls are living with the father that has been abusing them.

CS Gaynor:      How long have the girls been living with the father?

HEATHER:       9th December 2011.  From that moment on they have just seen their mother under supervision and they have just told every supervisor who has been with them telling them Daddy is still doing things to them.

CS Gaynor:      And that information is directly reported when they make those comments.

ARTHUR:         No we haven’t been putting it in because nobody will talk to us.

CS Gaynor:      No, I’m talking about the mother because obviously that is first hand information at time of contact and things like that.

ARTHUR:         The day after.  You’d better get your diary out that day at the markets.  These are pretty relevant.  Comments these little kids have made.

HEATHER:       2 days after the court gave the girls to Michael.

ARTHUR:         Have you got the right date?

HEATHER:       Two days after the court gave the girls to Michael

CS Gaynor:      After the 9th of the 12th?

HEATHER:       Yes, on the 11/12  I was in town and the girls were there at the markets.

ARTHUR:         We are members of Rotary; by the way, we’re volunteers for Rotary and they run the markets so we’re all down with them.

HEATHER:       We were in there, Cassie was tickling the girls and the girls said “Mummy you’ve got to promise not to tickle us, because you are tickling us too much.” And she said “Ah, I can’t promise because you got to keep a promise when you make it.  She said and “Isabella” said “well Daddy doesn’t keep his promise, because he is still touching our privates.” Two days after custody.

CS Gaynor:      What does the mother do about that information?

ARTHUR:         I don’t know.

HEATHER:       She’s lost the children, because they said she was coaching and here they are.  It has come out two days later saying thing to anybody.

ARTHUR:         I have a copy of all the texts. It’s there if you’re interested.  If you’d like to photocopy them.  It’s not relevant.  There’s no text there.

CS Gaynor:      Nothing to do with Child Protection stuff on there.  Anyone making complaints?

ARTHUR:         No.

CS Gaynor:      What about Mum?  Mum’s hearing all this information, or she makes any comments.

ARTHUR:         I know she didn’t report a lot of these disclosures directly after she had the children taken from her because she was accused of coaching and she didn’t know what to do.

CS Gaynor:      She should be providing it to the authorities at the time.

HEATHER:       Yes, we thought that too, because on 24th January.

CS Gaynor:      Is it reported to the courts.

ARTHUR:         We don’t know we haven’t seen it.

CS Gaynor:      That’s up to her and not for you to be involved.

HEATHER:       On the 24th January the last year.

CS Gaynor:      Yep

HEATHER:       The girls were over for an access visit, Michael had appointed himself Supervisor.

CS Gaynor:      With Mum? Access visit?

HEATHER:       Yes, Michael as the supervisor.

CS Gaynor:      Right.  Was it out at your place?

HEATHER:       It was at our place.  Isabella was swimming with the mother and she revealed something to her mother and she dirtied her pants in the pool, so Cassie took the girls up for a shower and when Isabella had got dressed she came running out and jumped up on the lounge and her genital area was red to the point of near bleeding.

ARTHUR:         And I was sitting next to the father and little Isabella was in between us and I said to the father (She didn’t have her pants on).  I said to the father “Michael we’ve got a problem here, look at this” and he said “No” and he got all.  He went all funny didn’t he?

HEATHER:       Yes

ARTHUR:         He got up, walked around and sat down.

HEATHER:       He got up and sat down.

ARTHUR:         And I begged him and the mother which their supposed to do, to take Isabella to the doctor.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

HEATHER:       He flatly refused.

ARTHUR:         He flatly refused.

CS Gaynor:      Do you know if he took the child after the access?

ARTHUR:         No.

HEATHER:       No.  He wouldn’t take them to a doctor.

NEVILLE:          How old are the children?

ARTHUR:         Five.

HEATHER:       They’d just turned five.

CS Gaynor:      Um.  So you don’t know if he took the child to the doctor?

ARTHUR:         No.

HEATHER:       He said they didn’t need to go.

CS Gaynor:      Yep

HEATHER:       Those were his words “she doesn’t need to go.”

ARTHUR:         What date was that?

HEATHER:       24th January.  There’s so many things that the girls have said that are of a sexual nature.  Then my daughter on the 15th January, we all went to the movies together and the girls weren’t happy and so she calmly said to Michael “the girls aren’t happy we need to talk about it.”  She put the girls in the car so it wasn’t as though she was cross and he just started shouting you just need to sort yourself out.  She said “what do you mean?”  “You know what I mean.”  He jumped into the car, slammed the door. He didn’t have his seat belt on.  Backed the car back and just missed another car coming into the parking area.  He’s supposed to have done things.  He’s not interested in the girls’ welfare or anything.

CS Gaynor:      And that’s something Mum needs to take up with the courts as well.  Do they do  mediation, do you know?

ARTHUR:         They did.  They started going to Relationships Australia in 2009.  I think the father went twice and said it wasn’t relevant and refused to return.

CS Gaynor:      And that’s before the court?

ARTHUR:         That’s before they broke up.

HEATHER:       That was two years before they broke up.

CS Gaynor:      It normally happens before they go to court.

HEATHER:       Apparently it was something special, but I don’t really know.

HEATHER:       Alright there is something on the 10th January that Isabella was crying.  She had soiled her pants again in swimmers again, but she wasn’t crying because of what Daddy had done that but he had told them they could have a sleep over and then he said they couldn’t.  You know, they could stay with Mummy for the night and he said they couldn’t.  That was the 10th January.

18th January Bronte told us that Daddy doesn’t like your family Mummy and we shouldn’t either.

CS Gaynor:      So once again, that’s all information that Mum should be providing.

ARTHUR:         But mother wasn’t there

HEATHER:       Oh she was.  She told Mummy in front of us.

ARTHUR:         She said it to me too.

HEATHER;       Well she did, she told her in the front of us.  Then after dinner they played their recorder to sexual songs.

CS Gaynor:      What does that mean?

HEATHER:       Well, their father playing these sexual songs on his phone while the girls were playing their recorder.  They were sexual tunes.

CS Gaynor:      What songs?

HEATHER:       Oh I can’t remember but they were songs the girls shouldn’t even be listening to.  Not five year olds.

ARTHUR:         Our dates might jump around a little bit.  We both keep separate diaries.  On the 12th January um I had the caravan serviced and I backed it into the shed and our pool has a gate there and a gate here and there’s a fence here that’s overlapped and you can walk in there and nobody knows you’re there.  Cassie and the girls were sitting there facing towards this way, towards the house and after I backed the caravan in I could hear them in the pool so I thought I would go around and give them a fright so I came around and I am leaning against the fence and the girls had just come back from Brisbane with their father and this was at 3 o’clock in the afternoon and Cassie said “You look tired Isabella, did you have a sleep before you come over.”  She said “yes, Bronte did but I had to go into Daddy’s bedroom and play with his privates and he played with mine.”  And I just stood there.  I just could not believe what I was hearing.  Then Bronte came over she was on this floaty thing and the mother said to Bronte.  “Bronte did you have a sleep before you came over today?”  Bronte said “Yes, I did but Isabella didn’t she had to go into Daddy’s room”.  That was on the 12th.  And if you care to visit our home it’s well worth a look.  Oops, sorry Nev.  We’ve got a long hallway and the girl’s bedroom was there, the mother’s bedroom was there.  There’s a hallway right up here, the kitchen’s there and there’s a lounge here and my spot’s in that corner and the TVs there and I watch the news.

CS Gaynor:      Yes

ARTHUR:         Anyhow last thing at night it was my job to tell them a story when they went to bed.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

ARTHUR:         And we told them the story, there’s bed there, and bed there and fan there.  They’ve got all their pictures around the wall.  I tell them a story we give them a kiss and walk out and close the door then we would come out here.  Then when Cassie was ready to go to bed she would go to bed.

 

I get up at 5 o’clock every morning and I sit there watching the news and when those little girls woke up they’d open their door and they would peek out and then go back in and in a couple of minutes would come flying down the hallway and snuggle into me one each side and then they’d say “Pop, the boring news and they knew they had five minutes.  I could watch the news for five minutes, then have to go to 502 and that was ha ha.

HEATHER:       No Bronte wanted

ARTHUR:         503

HEATHER:       I can’t remember that one.

CS Gaynor:      That’s children’s shows?

ARTHUR:         Yes, and that’s what they did so they were never alone with their mother while they were there and they claim she was coaching them and they we all spent our time there.

HEATHER:       The mother was supposed to be coaching the children and yet she never, she never would say anything derogatory about the father. Ever, even when she was down about something he said to her.

CS Gaynor:      In all these circumstances were the girls Mum was there.  I would hope and assume that the mother has given notice.

ARTHUR:         I doubt it very much because she already lost the kids and they said if she ever coaches again or puts in false statements.

CS Gaynor:      Why wouldn’t she, if they were not false?

ARTHUR:         Of course they’re not false, I was there.  She’s dead scared. The Heilbronns’ have been

CS Gaynor:      Have you been into the police with her.

ARTHUR:         No I haven’t been to the police.  I’ve been to the police on many occasions.

CS Gaynor:      ?

ARTHUR:         No. No.

CS Gaynor:      You said as well the mother was sitting there with the children.

ARTHUR:         Yep.

HEATHER:       That afternoon when Isabella came and sat on the chair and jumped on the chair without any pants, I went through to the bedroom and Bronte was in the bedroom getting dressed after she had a shower and I just said to her “Um, goodness Isabella’s “tushka” they used to call it “tushka”

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

HEATHER:       looks really sore” and she said “that’s what happens when Daddy rubs us too hard there with his penis”

CS Gaynor:      Do you know if the children have been interviewed by the police?

ARTHUR:         Ah, many times I believe.  The event of 15th January.

HEATHER:       Isabella said that she didn’t want to stay with Daddy anymore as he is just too angry.

ARTHUR:         We all have a breakfast when they come over, Michael and everybody.

CS Gaynor:      So this is when Dad has had the children?

ARTHUR:         Yes, at our place.

GS Gaynor:     Mm Mm.

ARTHUR:         The Aunties and Uncles and cousins was there and it was said in front of Michael that he was too angry all the time.  Michael was furious and became withdrawn.

On the 4th January I offered to discuss Michael’s problems with him, he has severe behavioral problems.  Um, but he never mentioned it, he just ignored it.  On the 19th January 2012 during access the girls again complained of sexual interference by Daddy.  He takes each one of us into the bedroom to play with his penis and he plays with mine..

CS Gaynor:      And who did the children say this to?

ARTHUR:         Me.  I have kept the diaries there.  I’ve typed up to make it easy to.

CS Gaynor:      What date was that?

ARTHUR:         19TH January.

CS Gaynor:      Yep.

ARTHUR:         On the 20th January I phone the Sexual Abuse Hotline in Brisbane, as I didn’t know what to do and I was referred to Relationships Australia.  (Relationships Australia where are we?)  We met with um Matthew Power out there.

CS Gaynor:      Who’s Matthew Power?

ARTHUR:         You needed that?  He’s the, well when I rang the Sexual Abuse Hotline in Brisbane they referred me to Matthew Power in Thuringowa.

CS Gaynor:      That’s OK.  I’m glad you rang Sexual Abuse but I’m still just interested in the girls not yours.

ARTHUR:         No No, it was about the kids.  We reported this sexual abuse to Matthew Power.

CS Gaynor:      And what did he say?

ARTHUR:         I’ve got to notify the authorities and they will be in touch with you but they never ever have.  Now whether he notified the authorities or not I don’t know but he seemed a pretty genuine sort of a fellow and very concerned.

CS Gaynor:      Yes essential.  That was a good response.  Um, what date was that? Did you say that was last year?

ARTHUR:         No No

HEATHER:       20th January

ARTHUR:         Just let me look at the papers so that we get it right.

CS Gaynor:      It was the 19th?

ARTHUR:         Yes. Got it yes.

CS Gaynor:      January?

ARTHUR:         Yes, rang Brisbane for appointment.  That was on the 20th January I rang.

CS Gaynor:      Good.  That’s alright I was looking at the same.

ARTHUR:         I think it was three days later.

CS Gaynor:      Three days later?

ARTHUR:         Yes.

CS Gaynor:      Anything else after that time?

ARTHUR:         Yes.HEATHER:       There’s many times we’ve heard the girls say that Daddy says “Mummy doesn’t want them anymore, Mummy doesn’t love them anymore.”  You know that sort of thing.  They used to say that often.  And on the 3rd of October we were at our daughter’s birthday party.

CS Gaynor:      What date was that?

ARTHUR:         3RD October.

HEATHER:       3rd October last year.

CS Gaynor:      Yes

HEATHER:       Our daughter’s birthday party where Mum was under supervision and were all sitting around the table Isabella said “that Daddy said Bronte is a liar because he plays with our vagina but she’s not a liar, because he does it all the time”.  And then she said.  After a little while she said “Oh Daddy’s going to be very angry now Mummy.”

ARTHUR:         There six at the birthday party.

CS Gaynor:      Is that all?

ARTHUR:         I believe there were five signed statements went into the police and none of us have been interviewed about it.

 

24th January Isabella phoned her Mother and wanted to meet her at the school gate as she had something important to tell her.  Cassie at that stage could not go to the school and did not have Michael’s approval.  Cassie told Isabella she would be seeing her that afternoon.  They met at the Willows where Michael allowed the girls to shop for school bags because the girls didn’t have any.  Heather was at the centre.  Michael went to our place without the girls.  When they arrived they bought dinner which we all shared including Michael.  Cassie took the girls for a swim and Isabella dirtied her pants again.  This has happened several times since she has been in the care of the father and she was toilet trained two years before.

CS Gaynor:      Do you know if the children have been to get any psychological treatment?

HEATHER:       No.

ARTHUR:         Nothing.

CS Gaynor:      Do you know?

CS Gaynor:      He came to my place after the court order

ARTHUR:         No.  I do know.  He came to my place.  No I don’t know it wasn’t as far as I know

HEATHER:                   our place

ARTHUR:         28TH January will answer this question.  Michael phoned to say he wanted to see me.  I invited him over assuming that he wanted to discuss his depression.  He suffers from severe depression.  But to my surprise he arrived with a cold beer and forty odd pages of the order and reasoning of F.M. Coker

CS Gaynor:      28th January

ARTHUR:         January 2012

CS Gaynor:      Now you understand I need to know the role on the stuff about the children?

ARTHUR:         Yes. OK

CS Gaynor:      Everyday is not going to be about the children though.

ARTHUR:         No No.  He stayed for over an hour denigrating all the medical professionals, doctors, psychologists, pediatricians and counselors which the girls had visited under the advice from police and Child Safety.  The visit was clearly an attempt to get me to criticize Justice Coker’s ruling which I refused to do.  We accepted because he made that rule and you have to accept it.  I suggested that he and Cassie should take the girls to a psychologist to help them get over the break up.  Michael looked at me with a look I have never seen anybody with it like it before and said “I can assure you that the girls will not be seeing a psychiatrist.”  He said “I can assure you, psychologist sorry, that Cassie will never ever get those girls again.  I said “Michael” and he just jumped into the car and took off.  Now that was me suggesting to him, I didn’t push the point that the girls should have help and he flatly refused.

HEATHER:       Something 23rd January.  I meant June sorry.

ARTHUR:         Oh no I’ve got some more here.  That night after Michael left the mother got a phone call saying all access had been stopped.  The lot, from everybody, uncles, cousins, aunties, ourselves, he stopped all access and we haven’t had access since, so those little girls have been in a hostage situation since 5th February 2012.  It’s over twelve months now.  Heather and I went round on the Sunday morning, the morning after for an access visit and he let us in. OK and the girls were hiding in the bedroom, we went and found them and brought them out and they were very happy to see us.

CS Gaynor:      I thought you hadn’t seen them?

ARTHUR:         No this is the day after he stopped access

CS Gaynor:      Yes

ARTHUR:         he stopped access to the girls.

CS Gaynor:      Yes

ARTHUR:         It was on 5th February 2012.

HEATHER:       5th February

ARTHUR:         Sorry, 5TH February, 2012.  So we went around Sunday morning, Heather was inside and he called me outside and started asking questions and I made some statements to which I were truthful.  One was that I said that with the Child Sexual Abuse it’s very hard to know what’s happening and we’ve been doing research and I said its only four or five per cent of four and five years old who report these findings so he put that into an affidavit against me.  So that’s where I got the information from.  He ticked the boxes of what’s relevant and all those things are there if you want it.  That’s in relation to the girls.  (Handing over an information sheet from Bravehearts).

CS Gaynor:      Yes Yes that’s your interpretation of what’s wrong with them, is that right?

ARTHUR:         Yes. But that’s what’s happening to the girls with their behavior.

CS Gaynor:      Right.

ARTHUR:         And we haven’t had access since and ah, as I say we went to the police on so many occasions.

CS Gaynor:      Nothing else should be relevant from here because you haven’t had any other access with the children.

HEATHER:       They’ve been under supervision, court approved supervisors.

CS Gaynor:      Court ordered supervisors.

HEATHER:       Yes. The court ordered supervisors.  Yes, from I think it was about the 3rd or it might have been 1st April, so they have only ever been supervised.

CS Gaynor:      Who’s that with? Family?

ARTHUR:         Yes, court ordered yes.  The court approved supervisors.

CS Gaynor:      Court ordered to extended family is that right?

ARTHUR:         No no

CS Gaynor:      Their Mum?

HEATHER:       Their Mum, with the supervisors they might come over to our place, was coming over to our place occasionally.

CS Gaynor:      Yes

HEATHER:       Not all the time.  Maybe we would go over there to their place if, like Cassie’s place.

CS Gaynor:      Sorry, was that from 3rd or 4th.

HEATHER:       Yes

CS Gaynor:      Sorry, go on

HEATHER:       So we’ve sort of seen them but it’s always been under supervision

CPS Gaynor:    Yes

HEATHER:       Then on the 9th October it was just all stopped again and Cassie only sees the girls.  No phone contact.  Nothing.  Only sees the girls at Relationship Australia for an hour and three quarters every Sunday afternoon.

ARTHUR:         I’ve got a couple of other things here.  2nd April 2012 we went to Ross River Park with them and the supervisor for a picnic.  I took the pups down for the kids to play with and Bronte said “Pop?” (Hang on while I get this).  Bronte asked “Can we come home with you and Nan, Pop.”  I said “Dad will bring you back one day”.  Bronte replied “We don’t want to live with Daddy, he makes us cry all the time and he’s always angry.”  I replied “He would only get angry when you are naughty.”  Bronte said “No Pop, he’s angry all the time and does naughty things to us.”  That was on ah, 2nd April 2012 in front of the supervisors.

CS: Gaynor:     Mm

HEATHER:       The supervision must have started on the 1st April.

ARTHUR:         From the 10th of June we had a trampoline and swings at home we brought the girls and Cassie moved into a home in (the address, what was the number?)

HEATHER:       It’s Eyre Street.

ARTHUR:         Eyre Street, North Ward.  I loaded these swings up and took them around and put them in the back yard.

GS Gaynor:     Mm

ARTHUR:         And Rae Greaves was the supervisor that day.  I don’t know whether you know Rae or not, um, but she was the supervisor.  I relocated the swings and the trampoline from our home to Cassie’s home.  When I was leaving I said “Have fun on your swings and trampoline.”  Bronte whispered which was said in front of Rae Greaves.  Bronte and Isabella said “that Daddy had told them they would never be allowed to stay at Mummy’s house again.”  I said “That may change, he may change his mind.”  They then said “They have to go to Aunty Sheree’s house tomorrow.” the 11th, yes school holidays because “Daddy said Mummy didn’t want us anymore.”  I assured them, this is in front of their mother and the supervisor; I assured them that Mummy, Poppy, Nana and all our friends and relatives wanted to see them as much as we could.

HEATHER:       On 24th, 23rd June I was at the school being a teach aid.

CS Gaynor:      Any circumstances where the supervisors think the children are at risk are certainly advised of all the services.

HEATHER:       Yes, well I

ARTHUR:         We can’t be sure, no.

CS Gaynor:      Yes, go on.

HEATHER:       I was ready to go and I said to both girls to say goodbye and Isabella stood up and she goes.  She said “Tomorrow’s mummy day, and then the next day because tomorrow was Friday, Saturday they used to have access with Relationships Australia and then all day Sunday.  Tomorrow’s mummy day, the next day is mummy day.  Then she said “The only good days are mummy days.”

CS Gaynor:      What date is that?

ARTHUR:         You’ve got no idea what is happening with these kids.  (Heather was crying).

CS Gaynor:      It’s alright do you need time out?

HEATHER:       23RD June

ARTHUR:         The things they are saying, you couldn’t coach them if they had not experienced what they’re saying.  They not have the faintest idea.

On 8th March we visited Ewan Jones office regards to disclosures and been unable to talk to anybody.

On 12th March Matthew from Mr. Jones office rang and advised us to contact Stephen Cannon senior intake Officer at Child Safety on 49777900

On 15th March we rang Mr. Cannon’s office and we were assured that we would be contacted for an appointment.  It never ever happened.  Never.

CS Gaynor:      You do know now that you can make contact with us.  Where intake see it you don’t need that.

HEATHER:       No.

ARTHUR:         That’s your number there.

CS Gaynor:      Yes, you need to make contact me on the 1300 number and provide us with

Information any time.  And if you need to walk in for advice and information I’m happy to take that, as long as it is current information because historically information we have already been provided with and then we’ve got all those so um any new information we will take.

NEVILLE:          They’ve already been told the information you have just said.  I’m pretty

conversant.

CS Gaynor:      I’ve got to converse.

NEVILLE:          Yes, I have been with family relationships for forty years.

CS Gaynor:      Then you would know, you would know that anybody you have spoken to is

Provided with same.  We would like to say we don’t tape the information we don’t, if they pull in another person we will always say you need to advise this information.  As a justice body that is what we are required to do and we will always.

ARTHUR:         What date were we up to?

CS Gaynor:      Um lots of dates backwards and forwards. 23/06/2012 and that’s being

Supervised from 15th.

HEATHER:       It was too close 6/09, 11th

CS Gaynor:      1st November?

HEATHER:       Yes

CS Gaynor:      In context.

ARTHUR:         The father prevented the mother from going to the school, she was teacher’s

Aide as other parents, one day a week I think it was.

HEATHER:       That’s after 9th October.

ARTHUR:         And she was in the classroom with all the other mothers and the father claimed

That the mother was coaching the girls during the, you know this time in the class where the teacher is supervising and stopped her from going and then they made her go at 9.10am into class after the school had started and he still claimed they were coaching inside the class room and he stopped that.  And then my wife said well these little girls have to have contact with family so she got in touch with the Headmaster and said “Well look these girls blaa blaa blaa can I come and take over the place so the girls can have contact with the children and the father would not allow it.  Is that normal?

CPS Gaynor:    What, I think that it would’ve been up to the school.  Education Queensland run

their own policy so it would be up to them if they were willing to let it happen.

ARTHUR:         We got a letter from him

HEATHER:       It just said we could in another class.

ARTHUR:         The Headmaster he could’ve.

CS Gaynor:      An aide teacher.

HEATHER:       The class has a teacher’s aide.

CS Gaynor:      So he just goes up as a parent.  I think the children’s education is done under

their own policy so it’s obviously they made the decision under their own policy.

ARTHUR:         No. I don’t think so; we had a letter from them that said “The school does not

have a problem with the grandmother attending.

HEATHER:       But he’s the one that stopped it.

CS Gaynor:      Well, as far as I know, because you weren’t in the class with just them either.

ARTHUR:         With the mother, yes

HEATHER:       We just sit around and talk to the children and then they change.

CS Gaynor:      I would assume they would not make indication on their own ground.

ARTHUR:         All we wanted to do was keep contact with the kids.

HEATHER:       It was nothing like that.

CS Gaynor:      They would have to have some sort of order of some kind.  But understand we’re

State, we’re not Federal so I don’t know the Federal court rules in things like

That.   They would have to get a court rule something in policy.

ARTHUR:         This is a statement I put into the police.  It is about a disclosure.  Do you want me to read it out?  They’ve never been back to me.  It’s about the girls.

CS Gaynor:      But you have given them your information, we can’t keep on getting information like that because that is criminal.  We work on risk, we don’t work on that.

ARTHUR:         I was riding up the road.  I ride the push bike every morning.  Up along Riverway Drive and I was coming back and here was with the car with the two little girls in the back of it.  It was locked up in full sunshine and the father was in shopping and I tried to get in the car and I couldn’t, it was locked.  The motor wasn’t running.

CS Gaynor:      These were your little girls?

ARTHUR:         Yes.  No not that one, that is just an example.  So I waited there until the father

came out and he was furious.  He um

CS Gaynor:      What was the time frame?

HEATHER:       We don’t really know.

ARTHUR:         Well, it was.

HEATHER:       He rode up and they were in the car.

CS Gaynor:      When was that?

ARTHUR:         That was on 15th October, 2012. Oh no no no sorry about that I’ve got the wrong

one there.  That was the one you didn’t want to hear about.

HEATHER:       That was after that.

CS Gaynor:      If the police have every criminal information in relation about the children we will get it.

ARTHUR:         You haven’t got it.

(There was laughter about something I couldn’t understand what was said)

 ARTHUR:         OK, Heather was um, went up to the chemist for a prescription and she arrives

up there and there’s the little girls in the car again, full sunshine and didn’t know

where Michael was, so Heather went into the chemist shop and Michael’s in the

Chemist shop.  So, she said “Do you mind if I say hello to the girls?” in front of

everybody in the chemist shop. He said “yer, yer alright.”  So she went out and

she’s talking to the girls.

HEATHER:       Now, I like to take over from there because I was talking to the girls in the back

of the car.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

HEATHER:       I’m this way and the girls there and the door’s open behind me and we were

chatting away and they were very excited to see me and Isabella was talking and she writes a diary.  She’s a very clever little girl and she’s telling me all about her tummy and eye drops and she couldn’t spell it, I can’t remember it now.  That’s

right, she had just drawn a drop, eye drop and we were chatting away and the next thing they both stopped and they just go like this. (indicating that the girls were looking up and then tooking into their laps).

CS Gaynor:    Mm Mm

HEATHER:      And I knew Michael was standing behind me and they were scared to talk to me.

ARTHUR:       When I was up at the bakery at the shopping centre and they were locked in the

car and I tried to get in there.

HEATHER:      They were laughing and carrying on.

ARTHUR:       When he came out he just flew into a rage, opened the door and slammed it and he wouldn’t even allow me to say hello.  That’s not good.

HEATHER:      He’s got them like.  He’s got nobody he has to answer to.

CS Gaynor:    Well I guess  the children are at a questionable age, six.

HEATHER:      Yes.  Several months ago.  I mean they both go to school.

CS Gaynor:    So you’ve got either of the children at school, but the schools have the policies

around what is appropriate and what’s not appropriate about that so they

certainly look for any change of behaviors and things like that.  Certainly they

have that policy there.  It’s not under our policy, but they certainly have a policy

that making sure they adhere.

HEATHER:      I feel they like school, they really love it because they’re away from the angry

Daddy.

ARTHUR:       The father has serious behavior and mental problems and I have a letter here

from his grandmother she wrote me if you wish to read it.

HEATHER:      This is back in.

CS Gaynor:    Is this a medical person or somebody just saying something.

ARTHUR:       His grandmother telling me.

CS Gaynor:    Why is his grandmother writing?

ARTHUR;       Because she is concerned about him if you read it and every week after they got

married for months his mother would ring me and say “Please, look after

Michael.  Could you get him to contact me?”  And I would

CS Gaynor:    Patricia

ARTHUR:       That’s his mother.  His mother’s a psychopath, schizophrenically I believe.

HEATHER:      Goodness knows, his father was habitual.

CS Gaynor:    So how does that make him a schizophrenic?

ARTHUR:       I didn’t suggest that no.  I just asked you to read the letter.

CS Gaynor:    But you said he’s got mental health issues.

ARTHUR:       Well, he has

HEATHER:      Because he complains all the time about having depression and other stuff he

brings up.  In fairness to that because he was in a bad accident at six.

CS Gaynor:    So this is about he and his Mum.

HEATHER:      It’s mainly about his health.

ARTHUR:       Mainly about his behavior, deserting his mother.

HEATHER:      And how could he treat his mother this way.

ARTHUR:       She said “That the worst mother in the world deserves better treatment than he

gives her.  And these are things I have observed.  I knew there were problems in

the family Christmas 2010 because they came around and opened up the

presents and there was just silence.  The girls were very jaded.  They opened

their presents, there was no excitement and when they left he went and jumped

in the car and drove off.  And I said to my daughter “Is everything alright.”  Her

eyes just filled with tears and she said “Yes”

On the 20th November

CS Gaynor:      Going backwards

ARTHUR:         No, we’re on Michael’s depression and his disclosures he has given me.

HEATHER:       He is aware and knows about them.

ARTHUR:         Yes he does.

CS Gaynor:      I want to know about the children, I don’t want to know about him.  I wantabout the girls.

ARTHUR:         Well, the risk, if you listen, to the girls could be great. Ah. Beg your pardon?

On 20/11 we were supervising, and this was before he got the children,

He got them on 7th December.  So it was before he got the children

through the court.  It was on 20th November, it was a Sunday and we

went down to the beach and we let them run free which we stayed

right away from them.

CS Gaynor:      When was this?

ARTHUR:         20/11

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

ARTHUR:         And then we went back to Lolly Pops at the Main Central and we sat well away

Having a cup of coffee and they were playing and they came over and sat down.

I noticed Michael was crying, and he was white and shaky and the girls just

closed down completely.  I never said anything, I just watched and about ten

minutes later things seem to smooth out and ah I just never said a word to him.

On 4th January it was the girls’ birthday party with approximately 40 children

there and adults.  The father didn’t get involved at all in conversation with the

guests or take part in any proceedings of the party what so ever.  He went inside

after the barbecue was cooked and appeared pale, trembling and was crying and

looked and he was distant, His manner was very distant.  When I asked him

what the matter was he said he was suffering from severe depression and had

done for years.  He would not eat.  After about twenty minutes, because I sat

there and talked to him, Michael settled down and he did come out and eat

some of the food, but he still did not mix with the guests or any of the friends.

CS Gaynor:      May I ask you something?  Did the Mum make any comment about this in the

Court orders?

ARTHUR:         I have no idea, I haven’t seen them.

HEATHER:       I don’t know.  I don’t know what’s in her affidavits or anything.

CS Gaynor:      So you don’t know anything about that.  But she lives in the home with you and

You don’t know anything about that.

ARTHUR:         She moved house.  She was in our home at the time, yes.

CS Gaynor:      And you don’t know if she has made any comments about it.

ARTHUR:         The solicitor told us that we have to be independent of each other, that we can’t

collude.

On 8th January access visit by Mick and the girls, he stayed very quiet and

strained distant.  He accepted a soft drink but we could not connect with him at

all.

On 10th January during another visit Michael again he said he suffered from

depression and has done for years.  I offered my sympathy and told Mick I was

available any time he wanted to come to talk to me, if he wanted to talk about

his problems.  He said “Thank you that would be good.”

On 17th January Mick again was very distant but accepted a glass of wine after

Dinner and left with a blank look on his face without saying “goodbye” or “thank

You”.

22nd January Mick very jubilant and bragging about how good it was to be single

again and how much he was enjoying life at present.  This

behavior seemed to be in stark contradiction to how he normally behaved.

We’ve never seen him on such a high with his emotions ever.  The twins barely

spoke to him during the visit and were overly subdued.

24th January Mick visited with the girls and very happy until Isabella had a

shower after swimming.  I think you’ve got some of this.  She had no pants on

yer. Doesn’t need to go to a doctor, his attitude changed and the next thing he

became very aggressive, irritated and edgy.  He could not keep still, kept on

getting up until he left.

28th January, we’ve discussed this.  When Mick turned up I thought he was going

to talk about his depression, but he didn’t.  I was standing at the front gate with

Mr. Manser on the, this is 3rd October 2012

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

ARTHUR:         I was standing at the front gate with Mr. Manser who’s a sheet metal worker

And Michael drove past with the girls on the way to school.  He gave me the

wave and speeded up in front of the girls.

These are a few of the worst ones.

HEATHER:       I might add that he comes out (2010) especially when we have friends there,

2011 we had friends there but I also had the girls while he was there.  Michael

didn’t ever take notice of the girls while they opened up their Christmas

presents.

CS Gaynor:      Mm Mm

HEATHER:       More significantly the girls never went near him and even when he was

supervised.  He used to come to our place he would walk in with his phone,

either playing on his phone or talking on his phone. Um he’d take a beer out of

the fridge.

ARTHUR:         He wouldn’t ask he would just go and get it

HEATHER:       If it wasn’t to his liking he would just complain about the brand of the beer, go

and sit in a corner in front of the TV.

ARTHUR:         And to this day we’ve never been rude to him, ever.  We wanted the thing to

survive.

CS Gaynor:      Alright, is that it?

ARTHUR:         Yes basically.  I’ve got a couple of questions.  You say you don’t give out

Information and I probably accept, I will accept.  Did the Heilbronns’ contact

Child Safety.

HEATHER:       She can’t tell us anything.

CS Gaynor:      If the Heilbronns’ asked me if you contacted us

ARTHUR:         I know mm.

CS Gaynor:      All information is confidential, so any information that we have is certainly not

Information for us to give.  Alright.

HEATHER:       See they threatened, the last thing they said as they walked out the door the

day they were at our place on 8th October, we’re going to Authorities and

you’re going to lose those children within a week.

ARTHUR:         I tell you what he wasn’t far wrong.

HEATHER:       Because she lost them.

CS Gaynor: Now with regard the information you gave me, like I said, you can contact

Records of Information used to be Freedom of Information is called the Record

of Information now.  Um I think they would have a web site.  It has to be

relevant for them to provide you with that information.  The information that

you’re involved in.  You’ve got that.  It’s up to you if you want to get information

around.

ARTHUR:         Not really I just want these little girls looked after.  Why are they still with him?

I even went as far as I could.  You know I went and saw Ewan Jones, got onto

Matthew Lupi and never got a reply, so I wrote to the Commissioner for

Children in Brisbane.  Once again, they’ve done nothing.

CS Gaynor:      You don’t know.

ARTHUR:         Well, they’re still there.

CS Gaynor:      I mean, you don’t know what information has been provided and we don’t

accept that because the Agency doesn’t do that, because that would mean

identifying um information that has been received so we don’t get any of

that.  So, all I can say to you is “all information we get is obvious on the system

it just stays on our system; we don’t do family law so the Federal system is

something that is not us.  We work on the risk of the children.  Federal work on

the court system.  We don’t have any involvement, unless somebody wants to

go further and we become involved in investigations and things like that.  Now

that’s something that’s done through the State and once again its around policy

and procedure so if anything um we have to um go by the information

received.  We make our decisions according to our policy.

ARTHUR:         So no doubt, as Child Safety we’ve given you the date.

CS Gaynor:      Yes

ARTHUR:         The children were with the father between.  The father has been given too

much time if you consider our statements false.

CS Gaynor:      No we don’t consider anybody’s statement is false.  Everybody from community

members to services, organizations, departments provides us with information.

We take it as right.  We don’t consider information as false.

ARTHUR:         You see the father’s claimed the mother has mental problems.

CS Gaynor:      Yes, but what I’m saying to you is we don’t work on, we don’t work the Federal

System, certainly State Government.  The courts they’ve got all this information

already.

ARTHUR:         Well, they haven’t because nobody’s got it.  Only you have got it now.

CS Gaynor:      But you don’t know what has.

ARTHUR:         Well there’s things in here that Mum hasn’t heard.

HEATHER:       Well Mum most probably given them a whole lot, because the girls would say

lots of stuff in front of supervisors.

ARTHUR:         Phone calls

HEATHER:       Yes, we don’t know about.

CS Gaynor:      A lot of stuff that has been said in front of Mum and a lot of stuff said in front

of Supervisors and things like that as well.

ARTHUR:         There’s a lot of stuff in here that’s full of it of phone calls and things like that.

The girls rang up one afternoon, they start complaining.  Phone call ends

Immediately.  There’s no phone contact now.  They are not allowed to ring us up.

Nothing.

CS Gaynor:      Yes and I guess Mum as the other guardian of the children.

HEATHER:       She’s not.  She’s doesn’t have any say.

ARTHUR:         He’s the sole parent at the moment.

CS Gaynor:      OK so that’s the court ruling is it?

ARTHUR:         Yes.

CS Gaynor:      So you know what the court ruling is?

ARTHUR:         Well, yes it was on 7th December.

HEATHER:       9th December Arth.

CS Gaynor:      He’s the sole guardian of the children?

ARTHUR:         Yes.  That was F.M. Coker and we go back to court on 22nd January and in his

Judgment he said this is for a very short period, didn’t he?

HEATHER:       No, because in February it was supposed to go back.

ARTHUR:         Well February.  7th December to February.  It was about eight weeks.  No,

Eleven, it wasn’t twelve and it was supposed to go back and be resolved then.

CS Gaynor:      Yep

ARTHUR:         And, of course, the normal thing it has been adjourned right through.

HEATHER:       Yes, it was supposed to with the order that both parents discuss the welfare of

the children.  That’s something that has not been adhered to.

CS Gaynor:      She’s not privy to the information In that.  I mean, both parents have to take their information to court, they can’t just front up without.  Don’t quote me I’ve no idea why it’s been put off until alater date, unless somebody is saying I’ve got some more information. You’ve got to get some more information, more information.  That’s something, if anyone has got relevant information that it’s in court.

ARTHUR:         That’s all very well but I think in November there was no information could go

Into the court after 20th November last year from memory.  Something like that.

CS Gaynor:      Well, as far as I know, all I know is both parents should have legal

Representation.

ARTHUR:         Well, the father is on $85.000 a year.  He got legal aid.  The mother’s bankrupt

and she can’t get it.

CS Gaynor:      Well, I don’t know much about that.  I honestly don’t know how they do that.

They have their.  As far as I know Legal Aid have a set um rate as to what they

get involved.  I don’t know about Mum why she doesn’t get it.

ARTHUR:         They wouldn’t give it to her.

HEATHER:       I think they wouldn’t give it to her in the first place because she was living with

us.

CS Gaynor:      Right.  So if there’s any adjournments and things like that she’s got legal

representation, it maybe um, or maybe she should be going back and seeking

legal and seeking legal aid now.

ARTHUR:         She can reapply can she?

CS Gaynor:      Well, I don’t know.  She’s in a different circumstances maybe she can.  She

certainly needs to be conversant.

HEATHER:       At the moment she cannot.

CS Gaynor:      Like I said I’m not sure.

ARTHUR:         What’s you name please?

CS Gaynor:      Gaynor.

ARTHUR:         Gaynor?

CPIU Gaynor:  G A Y N O R.

ARTHUR:         Ms  Miss  Mrs.

CS Gaynor:      Ms.  (Why was Ms Williams not given to us).

(There was general chit chat)

 ARTHUR:         Thanks for your time.  That’s full of stuff that we haven’t discussed in relation to

the kids if you want it.  You’re welcome to it.

CS Gaynor:      Well, I think you have given me a good grounding on what’s there.  It will

certainly be documented.  Now use your other processes you’ve got for any

other information.  Alright?  Don’t feel you have to come in here to make

appointments or anything.  You can call any time.  Everybody here is an

Intake officer.  If you get one of the other regional intakes, because we’re busy and it overflows everybody in the main office is an intake officer, alright?

ARTHUR:         OK, we’ll come in certainly.  Thank you for the advice.  As far as

CS Gaynor:      You call us, just give us call and that saves you distress.

ARTHUR:         As far as the police goes.

CS Gaynor:      That’s another matter, not us

ARTHUR:         Hang on, as I say I was speaking with the Detective Senior Detective Sergeant

David Miles?

CS Gaynor:      Yes

ARTHUR:         And he will not talk to us, he said the case is finished.

CS Gaynor:      He’s the big boss.

ARTHUR:         Why won’t they interview us?

NEVILLE:          If they suspect the children are in danger they should do something about it.

CS Gaynor:      Well

(Once again there was a chit chat between CPIU, Neville and Arthur)

 CS Gaynor:      Do you know how many times they have interviewed the children?  I’ve got

No idea and I’ve been involved or what the information has been taken and

what they’ve done.  I guess you don’t know what’s been going on with

interviews and anything like that, but all I can say is that they’ve certainly,

they’re certainly their own um they’re totally separate to us because of their.

ARTHUR:         What about all these statements that are going in and they don’t even bother

to ring up and confirm.  On 2011 last year the cricket.

HEATHER:       Oh, the 26th January last year.

ARTHUR:         They went down to the cricket and Michael was playing cricket, that’s the father

and the girls were there with, I don’t know the girl’s name even, met her once

only, it wouldn’t know her if I fell over her.

HEATHER:       She was a supervisor.  She was there with Cass.

ARTHUR:         Anyhow, it doesn’t matter.  These kids are playing and she’s got twins too and

they’re playing and the two girls opened up and started telling tem what Daddy

does do them.

HEATHER:       And this girl was a third year, she’s a um, what do you call it, an older, she’s in

Her early 30’s I think

CS Gaynor:      Right

HEATHER:       Third year medical student.

CS Gaynor:      Oh, I see

ARTHUR:         So she rang Child Safety, she rang the CPIU and they have never acknowledge

receiving it.

NEVILLE:          Something wrong.

ARTHUR:         Something wrong.

CS Gaynor:      You don’t know.

ARTHUR:         She said that she has never been contacted.

CS Gaynor:      OK

ARTHUR:         Never ever.

CS Gaynor:      Alright I can’t give you any feedback on that I’m sorry.  We don’t interact

when it comes to information.

ARTHUR;         No I understand that, but she reported here and she reported it to police

and never had a response from either party.

CS Gaynor:      Yep.  We don’t provide feedback.

ARTHUR:         Don’t you question them and make you know, get details.

CS Gaynor:      We don’t provide feedback.  If we’ve got enough information we don’t provide any feedback at all.  Like I said becomes confidential.  That’s as far as we can go.  The Queensland policy is that any interview is that.

ARTHUR:         I thought that what’s in the best interest for the children.

CS Gaynor;      It’s absolutely is in the best interest for the children and we make sure it is.

ARTHUR:         Thank you.

HEATHER:       Thank you very much for your time.

CS Gaynor:      Tut ta.

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We thank you Hon Yvette D’Ath MP , Attorney-General & Minister for Justice and Minister for Training and Skills ! NOT !

We thank you Hon Shannon Fentiman MP. Minister for Communities, Women and Youth, Minister for Child Safety and Minister for Multicultural Affairs. NOT !

We thank you Hon Jo-Ann Millar MP. Minister for Police, Fire and Emergency Services and Minister for Corrective Services. NOT !

 

 

Hon Aaron Harper MP

48 Thuringowa Drive

Kirwan  Qld  4817

 

Dear Sir,

We sincerely thank you and your staff, in particular, Thelma, for arranging for us to meet with Senior Labor Ministers,

  1. Hon Yvette D”Ath MP. Attorney-General & Minister for Justice and Minister for Training and Skills.
  2. Hon Shannon Fentiman MP. Minister for Communities, Women and Youth, Minister for Child Safety and Minister for Multicultural Affairs.
  3. Hon Jo-Ann Millar MP. Minister for Police, Fire and Emergency Services and Minister for Corrective Services.

Our granddaughters, Isabella and Bronte Watter, have been through a horrific experience over the past three and a half years. Probably the greatest distress for them has been the fact that those who are in place to hear their cries for help, have not believed them.

There are many reputable people to whom the girls have revealed the horrors, which they had been suffering. These people have never had statements taken from them or even questioned by the Authorities who are in place to protect children from harm.

These children need protecting and we are hopeful that this will now be the case.

Yours sincerely

Heather & Arthur Doubleday

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At it again Michael Watter or should we say STILL ? You are an absolute delight when it comes to looking after your own children ! God help the children with what little you have taught both of them in the short space of time you had them in your “ care  “ !  The impression you have given the girls on how a father should act will no doubt leave quite an impression on their young developing brains . That impression will include sexual abuse , selfishness , anger , lack of care , lack of consideration , hanging up telephones mid sentence , shouting , rudeness , drinking beer , teaching them to play with your penis , your playing with their vagina , making them cry – really quite an impressive performance all round wouldn’t you say Michael Watter ? A stand out little man you are !

RE INVESTIGATE and bring the children and their mother home so that the counselling that is so obviously needed will be provided for them !

 

 Diary Entries of Arthur E Doubleday

20th November 2011. Heather & I supervised the Isabella & Bronte with their father, Michael, at the Rockpool and then on to ‘Lollypops’ at Domain Central. We gave Michael full freedom with the girls on the beach and all seemed to be okay. When at ‘Lollypops’ we again kept our distance to allow the father freedom with his daughters, though they were always in our sight. It was noted that, at one stage, Michael was acting quite strangely by the fact that he had become very pale, shaking and teary. The girls became quite anxious, very subdued and withdrawn. It was very strange behavior by the father and a fearful reaction by the girls which was very noticeable.

11th December 2011. Two days after Michael had received full custodial rights of Isabella & Bronte by the court. We went to the City markets to visits our granddaughters Isabella & Bronte when Isabella complained to her mother with Nana, that Daddy was still touching their private parts and asked her Mum to speak with Daddy because he had promised to not do those naughty things anymore.

16th December 2011.  Michael brought the girls to visit their Mum at our place, arriving at 1.40pm. The girls had not had lunch and Isabella drank 3 full glasses of water. Both girls complained of being hungry so Cassie and Heather prepared a meal for the girls, as well as Michael.

18th December 2011.  Went to the markets to see the girls and all seemed to be okay. That evening at 5.45pm, Isabella phoned her Mum and she was really upset. Daddy was very angry and yelling all the time. Isabella was sobbing uncontrollably. Cassie managed to calm her down over the phone.

1st January 2012.        The Girls phoned and as soon as they started a general conversation they were cut off. They phoned back and both girls requested that they be allowed to come ‘home’ to Mummy. The conversation was cut off again. There was no further contact that night.

2nd January 2012.       During a visit by Michael and the girls, despite the Court Order directing both parents to work together for the best interest of the children, Michael refused all efforts by the mother or us to discuss the girls’ future. Michael would not engage in any conversation with anybody, not even the girls. He just sat sullenly all afternoon playing on his phone and drinking beer.

4th January 2012.        The girls’ birthday party at which 22 children plus adults attended. Michael did not blend in and converse with anybody. After I cooked the B.B.Q., I went inside to get Michael only to find him shaking and very pale with tears in his eyes. Michael confided in me the fact that he suffered from depression. (See attached correspondence from Michael’s Grandmother). We have observed Michael’s behavior deteriorate over the years to what can only be described as very strange. After speaking with Michael, he settled down and enjoyed a meal though there was no interaction with other party guests at all. I suggested to Michael that, if he wished to discuss his condition that I would be willing and happy to listen. He thanked me and suggested that he would take me up on the offer one day. On leaving, with he and the girls in the car and others around to hear, he said to Cassie, ‘Trying to buy the girls’ love with expensive presents?’

8th January 2012.        Michael visited with the girls after arriving home after a few days, with the girls, visiting the Gold Coast & Brisbane. His behavior was very strange and he seemed extremely ‘distant’. I could not ‘connect’ with him at all. Girls appeared okay though they would not answer any questions on what they had done or where they had been whilst away.

10th January 2012.      Michael visited with the girls and during conversation he again confessed to suffering depression and that it seemed to be increasing and also that he had been battling the condition for years. Again I offered our sympathy and assistance if he wanted it.

12th January 2012.      Cassie was in the pool with the girls and I walked up from behind the garage and stood behind Cassie & Isabella. Cassie asked Isabella if she had a sleep before coming over and Isabella replied, ‘Bronte did but I had to go into bed with Daddy and play with his private parts and he tickled mine.’ Cassie did not pursue the conversation but asked Bronte if she had a sleep. Bronte said, ‘Yes! I stayed in our room and Isabella has to go into Daddy’s room.’ They were not aware of my presence.

15th January 2012.      Michael brought the girls over for a breakfast B.B.Q. with family. (Aunts, uncles & cousins). Both girls said, in front of Michael, that they did not want to live with him as he is angry all the time. Michael was furious and became withdrawn.   On 4th Jan, I offered to discuss Michael’s mental health problems with him but he has not yet mentioned it.

19th January 2012.      During access, the girls again complain of sexual interference by Daddy. He shuts one girl in their room and takes the other to his bed to play with him while he plays with them.

20th January 2012. Phoned the Sexual Abuse hotline in Brisbane to report the abuse and I referred to Relationships Australia in Townsville.

24th January 2012.      Isabella phoned her Mum as she wanted her to meet her at the school gate as she had something important to tell her. Cassie, at that stage, could not go to the school as she did not have Michael’s approval. Cassie told Isabella that she would be seeing her that very afternoon. They met at the Willows where Michael allowed Cassie to shop for school bags for the girls which they did on their own. Heather was at the Centre. Mick arrived at our place on his own and when I asked where the girls were he said that they were with their Mum and Nana and would arrive shortly. When they arrived, they had bought dinner which we all shared, including Michael, and then Cassie took the girls out for a swim where Isabella dirtied her pants again. This has happened several times since she has been in Michael’s care and she has been toilet trained since before she turned two. After showering Isabella came out to the lounge room without underwear and it was very visible to me that her private parts were very red and inflamed. I urged Mick and Cassie to take Isabella to the doctor but Mick refused saying that he was the sole parent and that they would not be going to any doctor. Later Cassie confided in me that both girls had said that Daddy had been playing with them and Bronte said that Isabella is sore but that she was not.

28th January 2012.      Michael phoned to say that he wanted to talk to me. I invited him over assuming that he wanted to discuss his depression but to my surprise he arrived with cold beer and the 40 odd pages of the order and reasoning from the Court. He stayed over an hour, denigrating all the medical professionals i.e. doctors, psychologists, pediatricians, and counselors, which the girls had visited under advise from police and Child Safety. This visit was clearly an attempt to pervert the course of justice. On leaving, I suggested to Mick that he and Cassie should do as the Court Order suggested and work out agreeable parenting arrangements. Mick said that it would never happen and that Cassie would never have the girls again. He became quite angry and left. There is no doubt in my mind that Michael was putting evidence together to prevent Cassie access to the girls and the Mention on 21st February 2012.

5th February 2012.      After the father ceased all access to us, we visited Mick and the girls at 20 Oldenberg Place, Kelso. The girls were all giggly and excited to see us but disappeared by the time we had gotten to the door. They had gone into their bedroom and wanted us to find them. Mick called me outside and again questioned me with regard to the findings and Court Order, Child Safety and the Police. I said again that Heather & I accepted the court ruling and were abiding by it. Mick refused to allow access for Heather & myself as he said that the risk was too great and he had to protect himself. I had no idea what he was talking about. I explained that Heather & I had no interest in the family split and all we wanted was to be able to spend time with the grandchildren but he kept on pressuring by asking questions that had nothing to do with access for ourselves. He kept saying that he had to protect himself. When I mentioned his deep depression from which he was suffering, he began to cry, went very pale and started shaking. He refused to discuss the matter. Very Strange! Michael had taken the girls to Brisbane early in January and he revealed that he had not taken the girls to visit their grandmother or grandfather (his parents) whilst there. Now that access has been stopped here, the girls no longer have access to any family members at all except their Mum whom they see 1 ½ hrs one Saturday and 2hrs the alternate Saturday. No Access to uncles, aunties, cousins or friends, which occurred each Sunday over a B.B.Q. breakfast which Mick often attended and seemed to enjoy. Michael is an only child from a broken marriage and raised solely by his mother who has serious mental problems. We worry about our granddaughters having no family contact and all only those short contacts with their Mum at Relationships Australia under supervision. Very strange! Mick says that it is the best interest of the children and that he has to protect himself.

8th February 2012.      Received attached e-mail from Mick and also attached is my reply.

April 2th 1012.           We went to Rossiter Park to visit the girls. An Independent Children’s Lawyer has been appointed and upon her suggestion the girls have been allowed more supervised access with the girls. WE took ‘Foxy’ our new puppy with us which the girls just loved. I was pushing Bronte & Isabella on the swings when Bronte asked, ‘Can we come home and live with you and Nana, Pop? We don’t want to live with Dad as he makes us cry all the time and he is always angry.’ I replied, ‘He would only get angry when you are naughty.’ Bronte said. ‘No Pop. He is angry all the time and he does naughty things to us.’

10th June 2012                        Relocated the children’s swings and trampoline from our home to Cassie’s home. When I was leaving I said, ‘Have fun on your swings and trampoline.’ Both Bronte and Isabella said that Daddy had told them that they would never be allowed to stay at Mummy’s house again. I said that he may change his mind. They then said that they had to go to Mrs. Sheree’s house tomorrow (11/6/12 & school holidays) because Daddy said that Mummy didn’t want them anymore. I assured them that Mummy, Poppy & Nana and all our friends and relatives wanted to see them as often as we could. This conversation was overheard by the supervisors.

3rd October 2012.       Attended Cassie’s Birthday Party with the girls at Cactus Jack’s. The girls made further complaints of sexual abuse by their father. See attached copy of statement, dated 4th October 2012.

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LEAK 62

Child disclosure of sexual abuse reported to two doctors ! Neither interviewed ! WHY would that be do you think ?

So Daddy has three arms does he ? He uses one of the arms to tickle his daughters VAGINA !

Daddy still tickles their private parts !

Rubs them hard with his penis !

Daddy makes Pinnochio look like a beginner !

YES , blind people , read it all again !

Bronte & Isabellas’ Disclosures to Heather J Doubleday.

  1. 29th August 2011.   Bronte woke about 10:30pm complaining how sore she was in her genital region but there was not a rash or any sign of injury. I gave Cassie some ‘Curash’ to soothe the area and went out to the kitchen to make myself a cuppa and Cassie came in to say that Bronte had told her that her ‘tooshka’ was sore because Daddy rubbed it too hard. I told Cassie that she needed to report that. The following morning, Cassie took Bronte to her GP, Dr Rebecca McGowan, who then called in the practice owner, Dr Kevin Arlett, who insisted that, because of what Bronte had said to them, it needed to be reported to Child Safety.
  2. One morning in October 2011. Isabella, Bronte, Cassie & I are sitting on the lounge when Isabella said that her father has three arms. I said that people only had two arms but Isabella insisted that her dad said that he had three. I said, ‘How could he?’ Isabella then stretched out one arm and said, ‘This one.’ She then stretched out her other arm and said, ‘and this one,’ and then she pointed to her crotch and said, ‘and his other one is here and he tickles me with this one all the time.’
  3. Sun 11th 2011. Cotters Markets. Isabella said that Daddy didn’t keep his promises as he was still tickling their private parts.
  4. Tues 24th Jan 2012. After observing Isabella’s extremely red, raw genital area, I commented to Bronte how sore that Isabella’s toushka looked. She replied, ‘That’s what happens when Daddy rubs us too hard with his penis.’
  5. 3rd October 2012. Whilst at Cassie’s birthday party, Isabella says, ‘ Daddy screamed at Bronte telling her that she is a liar for telling people that he plays with our vagina, Pop, but she is not a liar.’ Then, ‘ Daddy is going to be very angry, Mummy.’

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LEAK 61

Share our page and let the people judge you !

 

Thurs  4th October 2012

I, Arthur Ernest Doubleday, d.o.b. 4th Ocotber 1935, attended my Birthday party last night, 3rd October 2012 at Palmer Street.

After the main course and while we were waiting for the Birthday cake to arrive, Isabella was talking across the table when she said, ‘Daddy calls Bronte a liar when she says he plays with our vagina but she is not a liar Pop. He plays with our vaginas all the time.’ She then became very subdued and said softly to her Mum, ‘Daddy is going to be very angry Mummy.’

The conversation changed and the girls returned to being happy again once the cakes came out.

Signed.  Arthur Ernest Doubleday …………………………………………………………………………

Date………………

Witnessed……………………………………………………………………………………………………………

Date………………..

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LEAK 60

Another letter from  Doctor Pamela Schultz pointing out the disgraceful way the Police and Child Services handled the children’s interview – and YET AGAIN  absolutely NOTHING has been done about it !

The letter was of such clarity and insight that it was published as a reference in a law journal .

Lupi and Saunders , however , see NO need to have another look at this case –WHY ?

When this case is PUBLICLY RE INVESTIGATED these people also need to  be investigated ! They are a disgrace !

Mrs. Gaynor ( as she calls herself – Williams ? ) needs to be stood down – permanently ! See LEAK 59

NO response from Hatton , Lupi , Saunders and La Fauci – we pay their salaries and they do NOTHING to earn them ! Paedophile enablers !

 

Mr Hatton

Ms Saunders

Ms Lana La Fauci

Re: Disturbing report.

Dear All,

Please find, attached, a report written by Dr Pamela D Shultz and published by Cambridge University Press, which is an analysis of the interview of Mrs Catherine (Cassie) Watter by C.P.I.U. and Children’s Services personnel. This report will also appear in a law journal. A report analyzing the authority’s interviews with the children, Isabella and Bronte Watter, will be released and published soon.

Please ensure to advise us by e-mail that:

  1. The person or persons conducting the Review of this case will be provided with a copy of this report.
  2. The Review person/s have a copy of our interview, with ‘Ms Gaynor’ of Children’s Services, refusing to take sexual ,physical, psychological and coaching abuse allegations by the children against their father, Mr Michael Watter, which were made directly to ourselves and entered into our diaries, copies of which you already have.
  3. That a copy of the transcript (enclosed) of our telephone conversation with Snr. Sgt. David Miles attempting to report the abuse, which he refused to take, also be presented to the Review person/s.

We look forward to your immediate reply. Privacy concerns do not apply to these requests.

Yours faithfully

Heather & Arthur Doubleday

 

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LEAK 59

 

More evidence of ineptitude , lack of caring and NIL professionalism by the system !

Lupi – Saunders – Gaynor , your department and the three of you are an absolute disgrace !!

                     PUBLICLY RE INVESTIGATE THIS MATTER !!

Ms Kirsty Saunders

Senior Advisor (Client Relations – Child Safety)

61 Sturt Street

Townsville   Qld   4810

 

 

Dear Ms Saunders,

We would like to bring to your notice the disappointment of the negative way in which an interview was conducted by the department’s interviewing person who induced herself as (Ms) Gaynor of the Department of Child Safety, on the morning of Monday 4th March 2013 at about 9.20am

It would appear that she was not interested in what was in the best interests of the children, namely our grandchildren, Isabella & Bronte Watter. We gave up in the end as we felt that we were speaking with someone who had preconceived ideas and was therefore not interested in the revelations of the sexual molestation by the father, Michael Watter, to the girls, with the information that was put before her.

Mr Neville Abbey of N.Q. Grandparents in Need of Support Council was horrified at the department’s aggressive interview tactics. Mr Abbey was not permitted to speak or enter into the conversation and came away, as we also did, very disillusioned with the system.

I invite you to listen to the first 20mins of the interviewing persons recorded interview with ourselves. We would appreciate your comments.

Our reports of direct sexual abuse made by these little girls against their father to the very people they love and trust appear to be of no relevance, with the Department saying that these were criminal matters and that we should be speaking with police about them.

You will note by viewing the information which we had already presented to the Department, through Lana, that we have been trying to contact your Department and the police for 12mths without success. Also you will note that the transcript of our conversation with the CPIU and their refusal to interview us.

The Department refused to give us written acknowledgement of our concerns and would not confirm that they would act on the limited information which we supplied to the Department.

Both of us have separate diaries with accurate accounts of events which have occurred over the past eighteen months.

The Department was handed a completed indicator of child sexual assault form. (Ms) Gaynor glanced at it and handed it back with the comment, ‘That’s your opinion, isn’t it?’   Well! It wasn’t our opinion. It is the facts.

The Department officer was also handed a letter from Mr Watter’s grandmother confirming that Mr Watter has severe behavioural problems. This also was glanced at then handed back.

We also wanted to report that we feel that these children have had their basic human rights taken away from them and feel that they are in a hostage situation as Bronte and Isabellas’ father has ceased all contact with the mother’s side of the family including ourselves, their aunties, uncles, cousins and friends. To stop all contact with the very people that these little girls loved and trusted is clearly not in the best interest of the children. The father, Michael Watter, has also stopped all contact at the Hermit Park State School where the girls attend school. To whom are these children now able to confide in, now that all the people that they love and trust have been taken away from them?

These breaches of our grandchildren’s rights have been in place since 28th January 2012 and more so since 9th October 2012 when even phone access with the girls was terminated.

Please advise to whom we report these abuses, as soon as possible.

We look forward to an early response to our concerns.

We also request an acknowledgement of this e-mail.

Yours faithfully

Heather & Arthur Doubleday

 

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LEAK 58

 

 

 

Open display of care and concern for the children again !

The children must have been really blessed to have you as a father !

 

 

 AFFIDAVIT

The Senior Officer

Child Protection

Kirwin Police Station.

7th November 2012

 

Dear Sir/ Madam,

 

I, Arthur Ernest Doubleday of 1155 Riverway Drive, Rasmussen, Qld, 4815 make an oath and state that.

  1. At 8.34am this morning of 7th November 2012, whilst riding my bike towards Brumbies Bakery at the IGA Shopping Centre on Riverway Drive at Rasmussen, I noticed my granddaughters alone in their car outside the Liquor Store.
  2. I stopped and attempted to open the doors but they were locked and all windows fully closed. The car was sitting in full sunshine and the engine was not running. The girls’ father was nowhere in sight.
  3. I waited for him to return. He refused to speak with me or allow the girls to say, ‘Hello’.
  4. He unlocked the car, jumped in and drove off at great speed in a furious rage.
  5. The car number was 237RZE and had ‘Kinnect’ signage along each side of the car in large, blue letters.

I request that the police take urgent action to have this dangerous practice stopped and request the he be charged with child neglect or other relevant charges.

Yours faithfully

Arthur E Doubleday

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LEAK 57
Photograph taken of severely abused vagina ! No wonder the father refused to take her to the doctor !! Why would he ?

The girls say the vagina’s are that way because “ BECAUSE THAT’S WHAT HAPPENS WHEN DADDY RUBS US TOO HARD WITH HIS PENIS “ !!! This information just does not stop — what do you say Michael Watter ? What do all the blind people say ?

This certainly tells us what kind of person Stephen Heilbronn is ! Watch this space !

Why was the photograph not allowed in court ? Perhaps the judge might answer that question ?

                                                                RE INVESTIGATE

 Hi Trish,
Section 2 & 3 of my statement. Stephen Heilbronn told Arth & I on 8th October 2011 that Cassie had been sexually abused by her older brother on a daily basis from the age of 8 to 16. I was totally shocked then but after some thought believed that he (Stephen Heilbronn) had just been trying to frighten us but then after more thought I felt that something could have happened as our Stephen has always said that he was the ‘Biggest Disappointment in the Family.’(as per Slim Dusty’s song.) I challenged him when he said it again some months later when he was visiting and said that I had never told him that he was a disappointment, but because of the accusation from Stephen Heilbronn and the fact that Stephen refused to make a statement refuting the accusation, I suspected that something must have happened, so I was not very surprised when it came out in court as true. I think that I felt more relief for Cassie to have finally gotten the truth out which was a considerable release for her, and also the fact that, what had happened to Cassie, certainly didn’t alter the fact that two little girls were telling us so much about the sexual abuse being perpetrated against them by their father.
I certainly now feel considerable disappointment towards our son but he was old enough to know right from wrong when he first abused Cassie and a grown   man when he raped her. He made the choices and must make his own amendments.
With regard to No 5, Michael’s response:- Arth did not steal the ride-on mower.
6. Again Michael’s response:- I did photograph Isabella’s badly inflamed and red raw vagina because her father refused to take her to the doctor even thought Bronte told me that Isabella was so red, ‘Because that’s what happens when Daddy rubs us too hard with his penis.’ There is a vast difference between pornography and medical evidence. I believe, Trish, that you are holding the photo. Should this be tendered in court?
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LEAK 56

Another analysis from another professional person ! They keep coming and yet the authorities continue to sweep all the evidence under the carpet ! WHY do you think this is ? Disclosures of sexual abuse to their mother , their grandparents , grandparent’s friends , a doctor ( GP ) , a child psychologist and all this before further disclosures to all and sundry and yet no re investigation ! Cassie’s natural reaction was HORROR ! Records of these disclosures made in great detail and yet NEVER investigated ! Medical problems associated with sexual abuse – mouth ulcers , thrush and rectal bleeding .

The sickening aspect of this over and above the sexual abuse was the further disclosure that the father ( we use the word loosely , as what “ father “ would do this to their own children ? ) has punished his daughters for disclosing the sexual abuse !

Matthew Lupi, Regional Director of Communities, Child Safety and Disability Services — you are an ABSOLUTE DISGRACE !!

Note the comments by Dr.Wendy Foote !

Note police officer David Miles comments – David Miles you are also a disgrace !

NOTE the disclosures that “ DADDY ‘S FRIENDS WERE ABUSING THEM “ – don’t worry FRIENDS – your time is coming !! Disclosure to this effect made by both of the little girls . No wonder the father doesn’t want to share our links to his page . You DISGUSTING animal !

Note the child’s pleading “ MUMMY HELP ME PLEASE “ . Desperate and continued pleas for help !

All those of you with blinkers on should be ashamed of and disgusted with yourselves !

Please help us to bring this mother and her children out of hiding so that they may receive the specialist counselling that will so desperately be needed .

YOU the authorities are to blame for this ! WAKE UP !

                                  PUBLICLY RE INVESTIGATE !!

Why I think the Child Safety Services should give serious consideration to the evidence reported in this document re the child protection risks of returning the 7 year old Watter twins (B and I: dob 4th

Jan 2007) to their father’s care if/when they are found.

 

Dr Rosamund Thorpe

President Family Inclusion Network Townsville

29th May 2014 

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                 My involvement and contact with Cassie Watter between January 2012 and April 2014 .

I first met the Watter twins’ mother, Cassie (Catherine) Watter, on 16th February 2012. She had been referred to FIN Townsville by the NQDVRS (North Queensland Domestic Violence Resource Service), as there had been Child Safety involvement prior to a Family Court interim judgement on 9th December 2011.

During 2012 I met Cassie every two or three weeks and very gradually learned that:

 

  1. She and one of the twins (I) had been granted a 12 month Protection Order in October 2011. Cassie and her husband (the twins’ father) had attended counselling in relation to domestic violence with Matthew Power at Relationships Australia in 2009, when the twins were aged 2
  2. Cassie and the twins had left the family home on 21st August 2011 (when the twins were 4½ years), when Cassie grew concerned that the domestic violence which she had experienced was impacting adversely on the twins (“this is a scary house” one of the twins had said, according to Cassie). The tipping point came when Cassie had formed the opinion (from observation of the father’s and the twins’ behaviour) that the twins’ father might be sexually attracted to and possibly abusing the twins.
  3. Cassie and the twins moved to live at Cassie’s parents’ home during which time the twins made several disclosures of sexual abuse to (1) their mother in the hearing of their grandparents and also their grandparents’ friends; (2) directly to each of the grandparents; (3) a GP; (4) a child psychologist to whom Cassie had taken the twins as she wanted someone independent to assess whether they had actually experienced sexual abuse. At this time Cassie had been incredulous about such an horrific reality. [Records of these disclosures have been provided by the grandparents and their friends, and by the Child Psychologist, Carolyn Seri]
  4. As a result of the disclosures outlined above, Cassie overcame her incredulity and made several reports to Child Safety. These were investigated by CSO Merle McNulty at the Thuringowa office who initially had seemed to Cassie to be sympathetic to her concerns. Merle McNulty abruptly seemed to change her attitude (sometime in October 2011, I think) after Cassie had told her that she and her parents were going to confront the twins’ father with the disclosures when he next called to collect them for a contact visit. [The question put to Mr Watter was: “The girls say you’re interfering with them. Is this correct?”] The reason for Merle McNulty’s change of mind bewildered Cassie for many months. However, enlightenment came over a year later when Cassie read in the Police records, subpoenaed by the Family Court, that on a phone call to the Police in (I think) October or November 2011, Merle McNulty had reported Cassie had said she was going to “set up” the father. This was not an accurate reporting of Cassie’s statement that she was going to “confront” the girl’s father with what the girls were disclosing. Rather, it is a highly misleading paraphrase, implying the situation was a mischievous contrivance based on false allegations. From this point on Merle McNulty appeared to Cassie to consider that her reported disclosures of CSA (child sexual abuse) by the twins were false, and that Cassie was coaching the twins to make disclosures. I understand, however, that no clear firm evidence of coaching was ever given to Cassie or to the Family Court
  1. On 9th December 2011 an interim order was made by the Family Court, granting full custody to the father, and only supervised access to Cassie. This order was based only on written Affidavits with no opportunity for testing through cross examination of the claims made. In the father’s Affidavit he had made what Cassie asserts were untrue and grossly exaggerated statements about her childhood and her adult mental health. In consequence, it would appear, the Family Court considered Cassie needed to access psychiatric treatment before the court could consider shared custody of the twins.

Everything in points 1 to 6 above (except the last 2 sentences of point 4 – BOLD) had happened prior to my meeting Cassie who, when I met her, was extremely distressed. This distress was not only on account of losing custody of the twins, but also a result of continuing to hear the twins make further disclosures about sexual abuse by their father during supervised contact visits with her.

Throughout 2012 (twins aged 5 years) a large number of written reports (over 40, I think) were made by people supervising Cassie’s contact with the twins. These, I understand, were submitted to the Family Court appointed Independent Children’s Lawyer (ICL) for the twins (Joanne Meade) and (I think) to Child Safety. Every Supervisor’s Report was forwarded by the ICL to the father and the twins began to disclose to Cassie that, as well as experiencing CSA by their father, he also had punished them for telling their mother about the CSA on contact visits.

With my support as president of FIN, Cassie sought an appointment with Matthew Lupi, Regional Director of Communities, Child Safety and Disability Services, to request a review of the decisions made by Merle McNulty et al. At a meeting with him on Thursday 9th  August 2012 I was astonished to hear Matthew Lupi himself state, as if it were a proven fact, that parents caught up in Family Court custody disputes often make false allegations in order to achieve an order against the other party. This view has been described by Dr Wendy Foote (2006, 2010, 2011) as the “scepticism paradigm” which flies in the face of extensive research evidence that the rate of false allegations in the Family Court are no different than the rate of false allegations in any other context, including Child Safety – that is between 5 to 9% (Brown et al 1998; 2007). Despite the weight of this research evidence, Foote found that many professionals involved with the Family Court think and act as if the rate of false accusations is far higher than below 10% and thereby fail to take such reports seriously. Cassie certainly found that her reports were dismissed and, in consequence, the very services with the mandate to protect children, arguably, were responsible for them being left in an unsafe situation. As Cassie’s support person I could see how deeply distressing this was to Cassie as she felt she was prevented from protecting her children

Cassie’s experience was reinforced in early September 2012 by the CPIU of the Police in Townsville when Detective Dave Miles told her that (1) she was to stop making reports of disclosures of CSA as police investigations distressed the girls and thus emotional harm is (and would be) substantiated against her; and (2) that if in future he heard that Cassie had looked at the girls’ sore genital areas she would be charged with an offence. I know that this happened as I have viewed the video recording of Cassie’s interview with Dave Miles, and I have read a transcript of this interview.

As a FIN professional volunteer I also supported Cassie at an interview with Dallas Grant (Child Safety Officer) at the Thuringowa Child Safety Service Centre on Friday 7th September 2012. Dallas appeared to consider that there might be some substance to the CSA reports. However, the Child Safety/Department of Communities’ ultimate decision, both to Dallas’ investigation and to the Review undertaken through Matthew Lupi, was not to change the original decision made by Merle McNulty. It was, and continues to be, unclear to me how this outcome was “in the best interests” of the twins, given the sheer volume of reports made by contact supervisors of disclosures they heard made by the twins.

It remains utterly bewildering to me that most of the professionals (GP, Child Psychologist), contact supervisors (many of whom were professionals) and wider family members and friends of Cassie, have never been interviewed by either Child Safety or the Police. I have been informed by a previous senior staff member of Child Safety that “the skill in quality investigation and assessments of matters with conflicting information is to look for sound reliable sources of subsidiary information/evidence that corroborates one or other direct sources of information. There should be extensive information gathering from a variety of sources and complex analysis of this to weigh up all evidence. Analysis of how and why various sources have been weighted over others and how this has led to the ultimate judgement of what if any harm occurred, to what level of significance, by whom, and whether the risk of harm will continue in the current environment” [name withheld, personal communication, October 2012]. In the case of the twins, the making of decisions without canvassing (let alone complex analysis of) all sources of information should, in my view, be considered grossly inadequate and unprofessional practice, amounting to a   possible case of systems abuse of vulnerable young children.

In early 2013 I supported Cassie while viewing video recordings of several interviews with each of the twins by the Police in the presence of a Child Safety officer.   Although my primary purpose was to support Cassie, I could not avoid forming the impression that (1) the interviews were conducted by the Police with a view to obtaining sufficient evidence (beyond reasonable doubt) to charge and prosecute an abuser; and (2) Child Safety appeared to take a back seat and did not appear to consider the extensive disclosures made by the girls “on the balance of probabilities”. By contrast, from what I heard the girls disclose in the interviews, I formed the opinion that they said more than enough to prompt action to protect the girls from the risk of future abuse. In my view, what the girls disclosed could not possibly have been the result of coaching by a mother who only had closely supervised contact with them. The contextual details of sexual abuse provided by the girls were astonishing, and one girl’s claim, after 3 days in foster care, that the memories were a dream suggested to me that coaching by the father (who had unsupervised contact 24/7 with the girls) of what to say to the police was an alternative possibility worthy of serious consideration.

I know that a complaint by Emeritus Professor Freda Briggs (a respected academic with expertise in child development and CSA) to the CMC prompted a review of the police interviews undertaken by Craig Weatherly and on 6th August 2013 I supported Cassie in a meeting with Craig to discuss his investigation. To my knowledge the CMC’s appraisal of Craig’s Report has not been released, although I am aware that in early 2014 Craig offered to “mediate” between Cassie and Police Detective Dave Miles. It was unclear precisely what the focus of such mediation might be and it did not happen before Cassie disappeared on 4th April 2014

In my view Child Safety Services need to undertake an independent review of the videoed police interviews with the Watter twins from a child centred perspective of assessing risk of harm rather than gathering evidence for a criminal prosecution of an adult. Furthermore, in my view, when the twins are found I would hope that they are interviewed in a far more child-friendly manner, preferably by a qualified child therapist with a prime focus on the best interests of the children.

During 2013 (twins aged 6 years) and in the first 3 months of 2014 I continued to support Cassie in the Family Court and through many months when she had only 2 hours supervised contact with the twins at the Relationships Australia Contact Centre. On 8th May 2013 I supported Cassie in a meeting with Contact Centre staff in which Cassie sought clarification of the Contact Centre supervisor’s apparent inclination to perceive “whispering” between Cassie and the twins and to interpret this as coaching – the latter fiercely denied by Cassie, who has a very soft voice.

The whispering claim is complicated by the fact that during 2013 the twins sometimes did make disclosures to Cassie, but not in the hearing of the Contact Centre supervisor. Cassie was of the view that the twins had become adept telling her what was happening to them while avoiding the punishment they would have to endure if reports got back to their father.

I came to realise that Cassie felt caught in a terrible “double-bind” (Bateson et al 1956). On the one hand she was concerned about the continuing abuse of the twins yet she feared several unwelcome repercussions if she lodged any reports: (1) the reports would be interpreted as false (the “scepticism paradigm” in operation) and therefore regarded as prima facie evidence that she had coached the twins to say what they said and, in consequence, the twins would not be assessed as in need of protection and would be left in an environment where the CSA might continue; (2) even the very limited contact Cassie had each week would be stopped and she would not be able to see her twins at all; (3) Dave Miles would charge her with an offence.

From mid 2013 into early 2014 (twins aged 6-7years) Cassie clearly became increasingly distressed by disclosures the twins were quietly making to her on contact visits (unheard by the contact supervisor) about

  • not only daddy but also daddy’s friends who were sexually abusing them (such disclosures first made on 30.6.13 by B and on 21.7.13 by I);
  • being treated for thrush (February or early March 2014);

 

  • one of the twins (I) being treated for rectal bleeding (March 2014); and

 

  • the other (B) having mouth ulcers (March 2014)

 

[it should be possible for Child Safety to check medical records].

These disclosures did not happen every Sunday but, to my knowledge, roughly every 2 or 3 weeks for some months. On these occasions Cassie would turn up after contact either at my house, or at her parents’ house, or at Madge Sceriha’s house literally shaking with distress to the extent of being unable to drive her car, and beside herself about what on earth she could do to help her daughters. Indeed on one occasion one twin had quietly said to her “mummy, help me please”.

The fact that the disclosures re Daddy and Daddy’s friends were not heard by the Contact Centre supervisor is definitely feasible given the observations, made by Cassie’s mother, Heather Doubleday, when she attended contact with Cassie, that the supervisor(s) were often not well positioned to hear absolutely all that the twins said to their mother. I understand, however, that a Contact Centre supervisor did hear about the thrush on one occasion in March 2014 as the girls spoke loudly and at length about their distaste for the gunk that was coming out of their vaginas. I do not know whether the Contact Centre lodged a report to Child Safety re this discussion about the symptoms of thrush. In my view, had such a report been submitted then it would be entirely remiss of Child Safety not to investigate – a situation reminiscent of the events which led to the establishment in 2003 of the CMC inquiry into abuse of children in foster care, reported in 2004. Is history repeating itself here?

With the benefit of hindsight, I can see that Cassie’s increasing insufferable distress on hearing these new disclosures (re Daddy’s friends, re the thrush and the rectal bleeding) and her mounting concern about the thinness of the twins (signalling neglect in Cassie’s mind), must have led her to her make a decision to abduct her daughters and flee into hiding. She did not mention, let alone discuss, this with me.

Cassie had known for over a year that I did not think abduction of her girls would be a good idea as the consequences, if/when they were found, would be imprisonment and loss of future contact with her daughters. Furthermore, Cassie knew that the Family Inclusion Network, of which I am the Townsville president, could not support any illegal activity on her part. Thus it was a total unanticipated shock to me to learn that Cassie had abducted the twins on Friday 4th April 2014.

Again with the benefit of hindsight, I can understand that, through the failure of formal child protection services including the police, Cassie must have thought there was simply no other option available to her to ensure protection from CSA for her twin daughters.

 

Conclusion to the argument developed in this document

 

From my contact as a FIN professional social work support volunteer with Cassie Watter over more than 2 years, together with the knowledge of professional colleagues from their own involvement with Cassie, I am of the firm conviction that there is more than sufficient evidence to support a decision that the twins should not be returned to their father’s care if/when they are found.

In many other cases, where there is only one disclosure of CSA compared with the multitude reported in this case, Child Safety has taken protective action. Why not in this case?

Is it because it is a “Family Court” case? If this is so, then the research evidence re disclosures of CSA in Family Court cases should be given due weight – that is, the rate of false disclosures is no different in Family Court cases than in all other cases in the community ie between 5-9% (Brown et al 1998; 2007)

If Child Safety holds the view that Cassie Watter has coached the twins then solid evidence of coaching needs to be identified rather than mere supposition based on the mischievous claims of the father and spurious references to “whispering” by the Barrister for the ICL. Over two years of contact with Cassie, I gained no impression whatsoever that she was coaching her daughters, even when I quizzed her closely on a number of occasions in order to check this out. This perception is borne out by the numerous reports made by contact supervisors who witnessed zero evidence of coaching. While contact supervisors observed the twins sometimes whispering to Cassie, they did not see Cassie whispering to the girls.

Further to the matter of Cassie Watter’s credibility, in my experience over two years of being her FIN support social worker, I found her to be a thoroughly honest person with considerable integrity. The issue of “perjury” in the Family Court was essentially an isolated example, motivated by Cassie’s wish to protect her parents from learning unpalatable information about their son, and not at all an indication of habitual deceit.

Furthermore, all of the several psychologists and psychiatrists who have assessed Cassie’s mental health have found no evidence of psychopathology. By contrast, the father’s mental health has never been fully assessed, even though he grew up in the care of a mother who lived with schizophrenia, he himself experienced CSA, and there is a significant history of his perpetration of domestic violence, evident in a Protection Order granted in October 2011.

In my view (and that of other concerned professionals) the safety and well-being of the Watter twin daughters, when found, is dependent on Child Safety Services undertaking a new and full investigation, uncontaminated by the inadequacies of previous assessments and, for the first time, interviewing all witnesses to disclosures made by the girls.

As Munro argues in her seminal paper Common Errors of Reasoning in Child Protection Work “professional judgements should be regarded as valuable but fallible, needing to be treated as hypotheses requiring further testing. This is not an easy step … (but) changing your mind should be seen as a sign of good practice and of strength not weakness” (Munro 1999 pp755-756).

 

References

Bateson, G., Jackson, D.D., Haley,   J. & Weakland,   J. (1956), Towards a Theory of Schizophrenia

Behavioral Science, Vol 1, pp251–264

Brown, T.C., Hewitt, L., Sheehan, R., Frederico, M. (1998) Child Abuse & the Family Court, Australian Institute of Criminology, Trends and Issues Series, No 91, Australian Institute of Criminology, Canberra ACT Australia, pp1-6.

Brown, T.C. and Alexander, R. (2007) Child Abuse and Family Law: Understanding the issues facing human service and legal professionals. Crows Nest: Allen and Unwin

Crime and Misconduct Commission (2004) Protecting Children: An Inquiry into the Abuse of Children in Foster Care. Brisbane CMC

Foote, W.L.(2006) Child Sexual Abuse Allegations in the Family Court. PhD thesis: University of Sydney.

Foote, W.L. (2010) ‘Responses to Allegations of Child Sexual Abuse in Family Court Hearings’, Women in Welfare Education, No. 9, pp. 63 – 78

Munro E. (1999) Common Errors of Reasoning in Child Protection Work. Child Abuse and Neglect Vol 23 No. 8 pp745-758

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LEAK 55

 

 

 

There we have it once again !

OVER 70 allegations of sexual , violent and physical abuse  made by the children ! The horror these children must have been living with at the hands of their father !

Disclosure to 15 or more different people ! The police did NOTHING ! Child services did NOTHING !

Only one person interviewed that we know of !! Why not all of them ?

What have the police to say about this ? Nothing ?

A PUBLIC RE INVESTIGATION IS NEEDED !!

 

The Editor

‘Take 5’ Magazine

26th November 2014

 

Dear Madam,

My Story starts like this.

As I read your ‘Take 5’ magazine of 27th November 2014, I noted an article ‘Where are MY GIRLS’ by Michael Watter. I was astounded and disappointed that a reputable magazine, such as yours, would print this story without first researching the facts.

  1. Attached is an article by ‘Safe Kids International’.
  2. Also attached is an analysis of the attempt, by the mother, to report abuse of her children to Police and Child Safety. This analysis, by Dr. Pamela D Schultz, is available for print and will be published in an Australian Law Journal in the very near future. It is disturbing, to say the least.

The interviews of the children, by Police and Child Safety have been analysed by Emeritus Professor Freda Briggs, and is far more disturbing than that of the mother.

These little girls have made over 70 allegations of sexual, violence and physical abuse against them and also coaching, by their father to 15 or so different people.

The Police at Child Protection Investigation Unit, Townsville and also Child Safety in Townsville have refused to interview any of these witnesses including the maternal grandparents.

Mr Watter Claims that the mother, Ms Catherine (Cassie) Watter has a mental illness. The Family Court ordered that the mother undertake a psychiatric assessment. Two Psychiatrists and three Psychologists have found the mother to be quite sane with no psychosis found. Mr Watter will not accept these reports, by professionals, and still insists that Ms Watter is ‘crazy’ and would not allow access for her with her daughters, as per the Court Rulings.

  1. Also attached, is a copy of the last correspondence from Ms Watter, which she sent to Police at the Crime and Misconduct Cammission, before she disappeared with the children. The Police did not act on this plea for help.

Queenslander of the Year, Ms Hetty Johnston of Bravehearts and Emeritus Professor Freda Briggs AO, have met with Senior Queensland Government Officials to have this case reviewed by an Independent Authority without success.

Emeritus Professor Freda Briggs AO can be contacted on:

Ph. H:      08 8379 4926

Ph. M:      0459 027 657

e-mail:     freda.briggs@ uni.sa.edu.au

Professor Briggs was engaged as an expert witness for the mother and has all the evidence at hand and am sure that she would be happy to speak with the appropriate representative, from your magazine, in regards to this case.

This is a brief outline of this horrendous case and we have little detail other than the above.

It should also be noted that Mr Watter does not reside in Townsville. He now lives in Brisbane.

Should you wish to print ‘the other side’ of this tragic story and, as a reputable magazine, we know that you will forward the ‘up to $2000’ payment to help cover the cost of the legal fees in freeing these children from abuse.

Yours faithfully,

George and Sharon Edwards

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LEAK 54

As mentioned in our previous post we will release a few  documents which will show the world what a kind , loving , considerate person this little man actually is ! Excuse me , sorry I nearly choked there ! Everyone that we have posted comments or affidavits from clearly show that this pathetic excuse for a human being is concerned about ONLY himself ! There is absolutely NO consideration for anyone else and woe betide all those who dare cross him ! This little man is anything but kind , considerate , loving , unselfish or caring ! He is , in our opinion , the lowest form of life and does not deserve the beautiful little girls that came into his life . May they remain safe from him and may the good Lord continue to care for them and their mother !

 

 

On 28th August 2011 Michael asked Cassie for a meeting and in light of her hesitance, asked me to be with her and her father Arthur when Michael arrived.

Cassie refused Michael’s request to speak to her without witnesses, saying she felt safer speaking with other people there.

Michael said adamantly a couple of times that he didn’t need to get legal advice/solicitor/accountant or a child psychologist

Michael said to Cassie she could move back to the house with him residing in the “donger” but using house facilities (toilet, bathroom, kitchen etc).

Michael said his plans were to ‘fix’ his ways including an anger management course, doing behaviour management, and getting a job with regular income etc. Cassie told him that he intended to do these things many times before and nothing has happened, which was why the relationship was over. Cassie replied that it would be great if he could still do those things so that he could start to have a good relationship with the girls where they were not scared of him. Cassie mentioned that the girls had been having nightmares etc about him prior to separation. This was the cause of the separation.

Cassie stated that she had initiated counselling over 12 months ago and he had only attended 2 sessions, claiming that the counsellor was ‘biased’ against him. Michael did not believe he had a problem so he didn’t seek further counselling. Cassie stated that in the counselling session, Michael said to the counsellor that punching a hole in the wall and shouting, swearing, demeaning etc was not aggressive behaviour.

Michael said that he had not spent much time with the girls prior to separation. He kept stating that Cassie was now ‘refusing’ him access to the girls. To my knowledge he had had quite a few visits with the girls to that point – in spite of them not wanting to leave with him. Cassie told Michael he had spent more time with them since separation than he did before, and that it was causing them great distress, with them both clinging to her and hysterical and not wanting to get in the car with him. Cassie reminded him that he had spent time with them 3 days in a row, which had not been the case for many months. Michael said that the girls were only upset due to the fact that separation of families was stressful. Cassie reminded him that this behaviour had occurred for months prior to separation and had been witnessed by people other than her. He said that other people had seen the girls happy with him. Cassie said that she would be speaking to a child psychologist about it to make sure they both did the right thing for the girls.

Cassie told Michael that with his record of past events concerning the girls he could not expect them to ‘believe’ that he had changed overnight and that he would need to change, and then prove it to them a bit at a time until they trusted him. Cassie said nothing was about her – it was all about the girls. Cassie suggested that seeing them for shorter periods of time regularly would be better for them than long periods of time spaced further apart.

Later on Michael told Cassie that he would find alternative accommodation so that the girls and she could move back to the house without him being there.

Michael said that he had found it ‘necessary’ to hide money because Cassie had transferred $1000 to the business line of credit. Cassie reminded him that she had paid a lot of bills that same day, and still left approx. $5000 in the account which was more than enough to cover wages etc . Cassie said she hadn’t cleared it out, she was just doing accounts as she normally does. She reminded him he had requested that she was to keep doing the accounts for him as he did not know how. Michael said that “Cassie was just doing it behind his back”. Cassie suggested that she thought that it would be best for Michael to find someone else to do the books so that all is above board.

Michael kept saying that Cassie was responsible for 50% of his business debt, but not the assets of the business (eg the $76k in accounts receivable and the value of the business itself.) Michael wanted Cassie to settle the property without speaking to an accountant. Cassie refused. Michael said Cassie would be just wasting time and money in doing so. Cassie said she would feel better knowing that it was done properly as there were things they wouldn’t even think of addressing that might come back to bite them later on. Michael disagreed. Michael just laughed at her and asked if she was trying to ‘protect herself’ Cassie said ‘yes, she was’.

Arthur (Cassie’s father), said that he hadn’t paid any money to her for food etc and he just shrugged and ignored him.

Cassie and Michael both agreed that the home loan and business line of credit would be made ‘both to sign’ to prevent withdrawals and that the credit card would be paid off by him duly and closed.

Cassie reiterated that she would be speaking to a solicitor, accountant and child psychologist especially the latter because she wanted to ensure they as parents were both doing the right things for and by the girls.

Michael left in a very angry mood and I noted that his behaviour was very “up and down” during the meeting and certainly indicated that he didn’t want Arthur or myself in attendance.

 

Another time, after a shopping expedition my wife, Cassie and children returned home.   Cassie wanted to go back to the house in Kelso and get some of the girls’ toys and writing desks and dolls house, as she had been given permission from her parents to make one of the spare bedrooms into a toy room for them. My wife went with Cassie and the girls in her father’s car to the Kelso home.

I took my vehicle down to the house and helped Arthur with loading the cars with items such as the a writing desk and doll house and any other items Cassie wanted to go back to her parents’ home.

Cassie left a lot of the girls’ things behind so that there was something there of the girls for future visits with their father.   Colouring pencils and books that Michael had bought the girls since separation were left and Cassie did not want to and nor did she clean out the house to be spiteful.

 

 

 

30th September, 2011

Cassie requested that I and my wife Patricia be with her and her daughters when their father arrived to take them for an overnight access visit.   This access visit was requested in less than the 24 hour period.

We were sitting with Cassie, the girls, and her parents on the front verandah when Michael arrived. He did not acknowledge anyone. Cassie told Michael that Isabella needed to tell him something, so she said to Isabella “Tell daddy what you told me last night and this morning.” Isabella did say a sentence and mumbled which was very faint, and she just clung to Cassie and and didn’t want to talk or look at her father so Cassie asked Michael “Have you touched the girls’ private parts? It has been said that you have and that it was yours and their secret.” Isabella ducked her head and nodded in agreeance.

Michael just looked away, made some unintelligent noise and laughed and then there was silence. After a while he said “That’s not true.”

The girls went out to the garden with their Nana.

Michael then denied any knowledge of such behaviour and said that they are only little girls and they would say anything. Cassie explained that the girls were very knowing and explained that they did know the difference between boys and girls private parts, as they have been with boys their age group at Riverview Child Minding Centre and Cathedral Prep Centre. Cassie also said that the girls have been having nightmares pertaining to their access visits. Cassie told Michael about a bath time episode about while splashing around Bronte layed on her back in the bath, and Isabella layed tummy down on the top of her sliding up and down. Cassie asked the girls ‘What are you doing’ and they said ‘the same as last night’. She then said ‘where did you get that from’ and they said ‘Daddy – it is our funny hugs’. Arthur asked my wife “Is that true?” and she replied “Yes”.

After this confrontation Michael said “So what happens from here?” Cassie was trying to explain that the girls were seeing a child psychologist and he rudely interrupted her and said we should call the Child Safety Protection police to lodge a complaint and request them to speak both to him and Cassie, to be told that they would ring back.

In the meantime the girls went off with their grandmother to play ball in the garden. Arthur moved out to be with his wife Heather and the girls.

Michael continued to harass Cassie in verbal abuse.

Cassie, Michael, my wife Patricia and I moved out onto the back verandah. Arthur & Heather took the girls down to the back paddock. When the return call from the Child Safety Protection happened Michael put the phone on loudspeaker. Both Michael and Cassie were spoken to. The policeman at the other end of the phone asked Cassie what had happened and she explained that she had finally got a copy of “Everybody’s got a Bottom” book and the girls were saying things that worried her. Cassie was asked, if the girls were living with her and she said “yes” but Michael was to have unsupervised access to the girls this weekend. The policeman told Cassie that if she felt the girls were in some sort of danger, she needed to remove them from it. Michael finally said “I won’t see them” and Cassie said “That would be good and would also protect Michael”. Michael just shook his head. Cassie asked the police officer who would the officer be on Monday and was happy to be told it would be Rob Garnett and explained that only Bronte had been interviewed by the Child Safety Protection previously and was really good with her. Isabella was never interviewed. The policeman said that nothing could be done to sort Michael’s issue before Monday when the appropriate person is available and suggested that the girls stay with the mother with whom they are living until then.

Michael did not leave straight away, but was asking Cassie what the girls had been saying and Cassie refused to tell him. Cassie also informed him that she hadn’t asked the girls any questions because she wasn’t allowed to. He said that was stupid but he kept harassing her until Cassie burst into tears. Michael showed no compassion so I suggested to both Michael and Cassie that enough was enough and Cassie agreed, but he wanted to carry on. Michael eyeballed me and I eyeballed him and then he looked away, so I suggested that was enough and Cassie more than agreed.

In the end Michael agreed to leave and they both went into the house. I had no further contact with Michael that day.

 

Saturday 8th October 2011

I was searching for one of the family cats which had escaped from the inside of the house and noticed that the girls were down by the swimming pool area as they did not want to go with their father for their access visit. Cassie was with them trying to calmly reassure them that they will have a happy time with their daddy.  Neither girl made any attempt to go to Michael of their own free will, they stayed very close to Cassie. If   Michael moved towards either one of them, they moved away.

I noticed that Michael had walked up to and was talking to my wife Patricia. I did not hear the conversation but saw from Pat’s demeanour as she looked uncomfortable in Michael’s presence.

 

Saturday night 8th October 2011

During the evening sometime around 07.30pm and we were at Proserpine I rang Cassie to be sure that she was OK after the morning access visit episode. Cassie told me and my wife about the “rough” day she had. Some friends of Michael visited the house to speak to Arthur, Heather and Cassie, which transpired after we had left Townsville. Cassie told us in conversation about Michael’s friends verbally abusing her, her mother and father. As time marched on Cassie said “I don’t feel well, what the hell, I cannot breathe” and we picked up straight away that she was having a panic attack so I on kept saying to her go to your mum, get you mum Cass. I kept on saying to her many times, “go to your Mum Cass”. Eventually we heard her mother was in attendance and we could hear conversation going on, as the phone had been left on. Once we knew Cassie was in safe hands we turned our phone off.

 

I admire Cassie for her courage in this adverse circumstance with her quiet demeanour to ensure a safe and secure environment for Bronte and Cassie. Cassie has a very soft nature and is trying to do the right thing for her girls to ensure they are safe and secure. Cassie is very mindful of Michael as the girls’ father and does not speak badly about him either to or in front of them.

I have watched Cassie around the girls and they just have such a loving, fun relationship with one another. Cassie is certainly not an overbearing mother, she spends a lot of time teaching and showing them things like “birds nests” in the trees and how the birds make them etc. and they have a fun time during these times.

Bronte told me one day that when giving the dog water, “You need to tip all the old water out and then put the new water in the bowl.   Both Bronte and Isabella with the help of Cassie have played a hand in training the dog to sit or stay.

I have never seen the girls happy with Michael they always seem hesitant and unsure of him. I have never seen Michael show any demonstrative attention to the girls as their father. The girls are always really happy to return to Cassie and hug her continuously after their access visits with Michael.

 

Signed:

Ridley Plaisted

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